Need Michelin Pilort Sport PS2 EXPERTS, PORSCHE MODEL BETTER?

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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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One of the reason I fell in love with the ps2's was I felt it had only very minimally worse grip than re70 in dry am i crazy??

but that it raped in the rain, even did a track day in the rain and I was impressed.



Are these other tires any good in the rain? I definitely dont want a tire geared towards the wet, but the ps2's seem to handle it so well.


Still don't understand if the PORSCHE SPEC PS2 Is any different?
all the tires list above at least A, if not AA in wet conditions.
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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i love my star specs..they do really well in the rain as well..

a few months back in rain on 101, my gf said she couldnt drive behind me in my lane because my tires were kicking more water up than any other car on the freeway, and she simply could not see even when 7-10 car lengths behind..
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LGT Mark
It depends how hot it is. If it's 100+, I'll start at 32, with a target of 40-41 hot temp, and adjust from there going by mostly feel. I might look at the wear line above the sidewall to see if it's much higher or lower than the wear arrow thing, but otherwise I just adjust for more or less understeer.
Yeah, that's what I did my last track day. Just went with stock 32-33psi (cold) pressure and it eventually went up to ~40 psi. And it wasn't even hot that day. But then I heard from a very experienced person that in order to prevent the tire heating up one needs to pump more air before the run... Like ~40psi (cold). Then the pressure expansion will be significantly less (tire will generate less heat as there is much less side wall flex). And heat seems to be a problem with Star Specs (at least on autocross). So, I'm just bugging myself with all these questions

Those XS's have gotten some pretty good reviews, I might have to consider them next time since they're $200 cheaper than the star specs...
I'm looking at XSs too but a bit scared by their wet ratings. Well, at least people are saying that XSs are not as bad as RT-615

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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
I'll say again, the RS3 is the stickiest street tire on the market today. They love heat, so tracks days should be ZERO issue.
How do they wear compared to Z1 SS? Faster or the same?
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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that's a good idea, I'll try that next time. Does he start at 40, then release air to keep it at 40? Or does he drive at 45? Is that for HPDE or AutoX? What heat problem were you having with star specs no autoX, not building heat fast enough?
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LGT Mark
that's a good idea, I'll try that next time. Does he start at 40, then release air to keep it at 40? Or does he drive at 45?
I don't have a complete picture in my head on how he's doing that I'll try to ask him. But his main point was to reduce excessive pressure build up (which is just a follow up of the heated air) by getting more air inside the tire _before_ running. That may sound counter intuitive (and I never thought about that before) but the explanation about side wall flex seems to be reasonable.

Is that for HPDE or AutoX?
That's I'm trying to find out now I kind of confirmed that on AutoX when I started with 40psi cold but a bit afraid to do the same on a track.

What heat problem were you having with star specs no autoX, not building heat fast enough?
I think they become greasy when they heat up (that happens fast BTW). I'm usually OK the first 1-3 runs and then start feeling that tires are not holding as well as before. Maybe I just overdrive them (mine are hot). But the result is pretty consistent. And I've read before that Z1 SS tires do not like heat. So, need to keep the heat down. And the question is how to do it properly on a track. That was one of the reasons why I was looking at Kumho XS - they like heat FWIK.
Old Sep 3, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wwrx
How do they wear compared to Z1 SS? Faster or the same?
Wear remains to be the seen. RS3 is super new to the market. Can't say yet.
Old Sep 3, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Wear remains to be the seen. RS3 is super new to the market. Can't say yet.
daily driving star specs, mostly on highway 17, ive put about 25,000 miles on my tires now, still got a decent amount of tread
Old Sep 4, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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dunlop direzza Z1 star-spec. hands down the best.
Old Sep 4, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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I went with ps2.

I just didn't have time to try and get a ride on rs3's this time around. Gotta try it before I drop the cashola at this point, everyone raved on the re10r and frankly those tires were poop.
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