most secure web programming language?

Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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most secure web programming language?

So my current site is php based w/ My SQL as well. If I want to implement some online shopping cart stuff, what is the best way to go about it?

Should I start from scratch? If yes, what language is most secure? If not, are there any modules I can download/purchase/use?

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Looks like my web server provides these for free... any good?

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what is the issue?

er... what part are you most concerned about? credit card info?

any language can be hacked.

any server can be hacked.

what makes a great server is how the programmer implements everything...
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yeah, I guess CC info is my biggest concern...

So there is a *possibility* of me selling *something* and just want to make sure things are nice and secure, namely CC and customer info.

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what is the issue?

er... what part are you most concerned about? credit card info?

any language can be hacked.

any server can be hacked.

what makes a great server is how the programmer implements everything...
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btw, Leo were you at Union City with your truck by Boarders on the 24th of Feb around 3PM? I thought I saw you walking towards Boarders...
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dark green 2nd gen 4runner?

i have a enviro plate...
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2 things to consider when going e-commerce.


1. consider going with a established "vendor" of services. most people hate paycrap... paypal. especially gun owners.

but they have a solid API which a programmer can hook into.

plus it's convenient.


2. to me, anytime something secured is needed, a VALID SSL certificate is needed otherwise, i bail.

that way, all traffic between me and the server is encoded. but thee days, anyone can issue a certificate. that's why verisign, thawte, and others make their money from.

so if you are gonna roll your own, spend the money for certificate from a known place.
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i remember dark green but wasn't sure if it was a 4runner or which gen. Also too far to see the plate...

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dark green 2nd gen 4runner?

i have a enviro plate...
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okay, I am not very familiar with this whole e-commerce thing. What do you mean by "vendor" of service? I am sure I'll have paypal, visa, and mc capabilities on my site.

SSL certificate from a known place? I'll try to search and read up a little more on this SSL thing.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by ldivinag
2 things to consider when going e-commerce.


1. consider going with a established "vendor" of services. most people hate paycrap... paypal. especially gun owners.

but they have a solid API which a programmer can hook into.

plus it's convenient.


2. to me, anytime something secured is needed, a VALID SSL certificate is needed otherwise, i bail.

that way, all traffic between me and the server is encoded. but thee days, anyone can issue a certificate. that's why verisign, thawte, and others make their money from.

so if you are gonna roll your own, spend the money for certificate from a known place.
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if you are going to use PP, then you dont have to worry about CCs...

since they take care of that mess.

all your website will do, is pass on the control to PP.

the customer does his/her thing.

once they hit the PAY button, PP then processes the transaction and passes the control back to your site.

at that point, i dont exactly know how PP "pays" you.


IIRC< the open source ECOMMERCE package has hooks already built into it for PP.

and at this point, a certificate isnt needed...

are you your own webmaster?
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Buy a service; don't try to code it yourself. Designing and coding e-commerce web sites that are both well designed and secure is tricky and time consuming. Especially the part where you manage payment information. And you don't want to have to write or maintain any infrastructure that's subject to PCI DSS. Anyone who tells you that coding it all up securely is "easy" is either out of your price range or, more likely, has no idea.

There are plenty of options that will still allow you some flexibility in site design without taking on the burden of coding., including handling credit card payments.
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edit... not eCommerce...

but OSCOmmerce...

http://addons.oscommerce.com/info/2679

linky with PP add-on...
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So what you are saying is, i'll take care of the shopping cart, pass the total amount to PP, and PP will take care of all the payment stuff including security, then pass it back to me with some kind of confirmation? Yes, I am my own webmaster.

Originally Posted by ldivinag
if you are going to use PP, then you dont have to worry about CCs...

since they take care of that mess.

all your website will do, is pass on the control to PP.

the customer does his/her thing.

once they hit the PAY button, PP then processes the transaction and passes the control back to your site.

at that point, i dont exactly know how PP "pays" you.


IIRC< the open source ECOMMERCE package has hooks already built into it for PP.

and at this point, a certificate isnt needed...

are you your own webmaster?
do you mean to hire a programmer to do this or purchase an existing ecommerce module like the ones I listed above?

Originally Posted by glider
Buy a service; don't try to code it yourself. Designing and coding e-commerce web sites that are both well designed and secure is tricky and time consuming. Especially the part where you manage payment information. And you don't want to have to write or maintain any infrastructure that's subject to PCI DSS. Anyone who tells you that coding it all up securely is "easy" is either out of your price range or, more likely, has no idea.

There are plenty of options that will still allow you some flexibility in site design without taking on the burden of coding., including handling credit card payments.
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Originally Posted by DetailAddict
do you mean to hire a programmer to do this or purchase an existing ecommerce module like the ones I listed above?
Yeah, that's what I meant. I should've said that
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any know good module I should look into then?
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Yeah, that's what I meant. I should've said that

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