insight from my BAIC peeps: should I rebuild or buy rebuilt long block?

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Old 06-08-2011, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fizay
Can you elaborate on the quantity? I'm starting to hear a slight knock, and I probably go through about a half quart every 4K miles in oil. I'm only at 60K miles too :/

OP: I'd go with a self rebuild. I get the feeling that O'reilly/Kragen parts are decent only for domestic vehicles (probably bcs they have some sort of access to the supply chain).
knock could be from bad gas?
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Originally Posted by fizay
Can you elaborate on the quantity? I'm starting to hear a slight knock, and I probably go through about a half quart every 4K miles in oil. I'm only at 60K miles too :/

OP: I'd go with a self rebuild. I get the feeling that O'reilly/Kragen parts are decent only for domestic vehicles (probably bcs they have some sort of access to the supply chain).
half qt in 4k miles is really NOT that bad.

For subaru to recall/replace/rebuild a motor under warranty i believe the motor has to burn thru 1 qt in 1000 miles.
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In general, if you aren't looking for anything special, a built long block is going to be cheaper than a personal rebuild.

Have you considered doing one of the "used" JDM motors from a company like Attarco?
They can be a bargin with a guarenteed less than 40K miles
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Originally Posted by slugrx
knock could be from bad gas?
I was thinking since I parked it outside for a week+ without starting it while the Juneary showers were going on. It could be bad gas as well. I have a bad habit of driving til the last drop before refueling and I've yet to change the fuel filter.
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Originally Posted by mattsn0w
I have a 2004 WRX with 170k miles (mixed highway, backroads, autox) that drinks a fair share of oil and recently started burning oil without signs of external leaks or in the downpipe.

before it goes boom I want to renew the guts to last me another few years.
I'm looking to either rebuild my motor or buy a rebuilt long block from a shop or some where like kragen, winchester auto, etc...

i'm looking to my BAIC peeps for insight and experiences with rebuilding your own or having a remanufactured motor. Curious about cost as well as longevity.

Any info from local vendors is welcome but i'm just looking for parts cost as me and a buddy will be doing the swap.

Thanks in advance!
I would re-built and clean the pistons and cam's...
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Originally Posted by Lowend
In general, if you aren't looking for anything special, a built long block is going to be cheaper than a personal rebuild.

Have you considered doing one of the "used" JDM motors from a company like Attarco?
They can be a bargin with a guarenteed less than 40K miles
This
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I'm in the same boat , 130k 02 wagon. contemplating if i should get a ver7 swap but i hear those are hard to tune , also do they have the 2.0l head cracks as well?
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3.0L flat 6 JDM legacy motor! Do it!!


http://www.attarco.com/index.php?mai...products_id=63
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:08 PM
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Aren't you the guy with the Legacy engine sitting in your garage? How about swap in the EJ255?
I had one sitting in there. it *finally* sold. wasn't mine though.

Originally Posted by scottj
Rebuild the heads $500, bore and hone $100, rings and gaskets $300. Bottom end might be ok, but it would only cost another $100 for bearings. How much is your time worth?
i'm paying someone to do the build for the most part.

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The problem with rebuilding is the the temptation to sweeten the package. "Well I've got it apart, might as well throw in some forged pistons" ($600). Soon it will be forged everything, cams, oversize valves, Cosworth oil pump, and then you suddenly have $3000 in parts alone.
that is why I just want to do minimal cost work. I only plan on having the car a couple more years and will then sell it or trade it in.


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I'd stay away from kragen/winchester to buy a longblock
Why?

Originally Posted by slugrx
- I recommened a dbtuned built block, I've got one (2.0 with upgraded pistons/bearings) and have been pleased so far (only about 10-15k on it)..took two weeks from first call to paul, til I picked my car up with motor ready to go

You can also go to GST, eq, speedelement, lic, ahq..they can all get you parts so call around and ask
right, but me and a buddy will be doing the work, mostly my buddy since he is a mechanic and basically down the street from my house so I can assist and can work in small chunks of time.



Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Some things to remember:
1.your cylinder heads will need to be replaced.
2. All vacuum lines, rubber hoses, etc will need replacing.
3. If you already have engine management, a 2.2 liter stroker engine is a good
, inexpensive option.
4. Regardless of build, it shouldn't take longer than one week to perform.
1. why? what's wrong with replacing seals, bearings, and resurfacing? (just re-read the thread, sounds like your answer is there).
2. already planning on replacing all hosts.
3. just a basic OSS reflash, nothing crazy. a 2.2 stroker sounds fun but what is that cost vs. a remaned long block? the quotes i'm seeing for remanufactured long blocks are int the $4,500-$5,000 range.
4. The time it takes to get done i'm not too worried about.



my goal is to make the motor last another say 100k+ miles. durring this "downtime" i'm swapping my stock struts back in, replacing the turbo, power steering pump and rack, brake pads & rotors, clutch, flywheel, turbo, uppipe, and all the little things that we'll inevitably find broken or needing replacement.
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afaik kragen and winchester parts arent actually OEM so im not positive it will last over 100k miles...you can always go through a vendor to source the parts you need
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Originally Posted by LOL VTEC
3.0L flat 6 JDM legacy motor! Do it!!


http://www.attarco.com/index.php?mai...products_id=63
all that needs is a turbo lol
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Originally Posted by fizay
Can you elaborate on the quantity? I'm starting to hear a slight knock, and I probably go through about a half quart every 4K miles in oil. I'm only at 60K miles too :/

OP: I'd go with a self rebuild. I get the feeling that O'reilly/Kragen parts are decent only for domestic vehicles (probably bcs they have some sort of access to the supply chain).
If an EJ20 is consuming ANY oil, there's a problem; usually worn rings/glazed bore.
Different story with the EJ25x engines; you're lucky if you get an OE engine that doesn't use oil.
In general, a stroker block costs no more than a "stock" block.
In fact, our basic built block cost less than an OEM new block.
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BTW, we're building so many engines, I usually have one pre-assembled .
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i'm still weighting my options. any interest in a 2004 wrx wagon that needs some TLC?
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