How about getting taxed for every mile you drive?
How about getting taxed for every mile you drive?
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Originally Posted by NZO
I think California and I are going to have some irreconcilable differences pretty soon here if it doesnt change its attitude.
That is such a dumb law. We're already shafted on everything - including recyling. What is up with the CRV addition on all soft drinks? Anybody know of a place to turn these in for some change?
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Originally Posted by zumnwrx
eh if it passes let the hacking begin! haha shoot think about it all you do is hack the computer and walah cheap gas
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ok, here's the "reasoning" I saw on the news. (Which is the same in the article) People are getting more fuel efficient cars, but they're driving further, so even though they are using less gas they are driving more miles. State revenues are supposed to go down 8% from high mileage cars next year or something.
Here's how I look at it. You have a job but don't make a ton of money. You live somewhere where it's relativly cheap but not to bad, but you have to commute to work now. So instead of buying an escalade to commute in you buy a prius or a WRX. So with the new tax, the dorks that can afford to live near their work and drive the gas guzzlers don't care if they get taxed by the mile and are happy about 18cents less a gallon, while the "already barley have just enough money as it is" camp has to pay more. Yeah, it is fair, because the miles driven on the road are what wear it down, but it's the people that can't even afford to live by their job that have to drive far, so now they might have to pay more.
This is all of course not including the whole privacy issue along with any bugs that can be in the system. (I can picture it now, you pull up to the pump, and the 200mile a day commuter is on the opposite side and your pump makes you pay for their miles
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I don't think it will pass either... then again I didn't think a lot of things would happen 2 weeks ago
Eventually, someday you'd have to go to the pump, you could go out of town or something. Then all of those miles will be sitting there waiting to be paid off in one huge bill that could max out your credit card
Here's how I look at it. You have a job but don't make a ton of money. You live somewhere where it's relativly cheap but not to bad, but you have to commute to work now. So instead of buying an escalade to commute in you buy a prius or a WRX. So with the new tax, the dorks that can afford to live near their work and drive the gas guzzlers don't care if they get taxed by the mile and are happy about 18cents less a gallon, while the "already barley have just enough money as it is" camp has to pay more. Yeah, it is fair, because the miles driven on the road are what wear it down, but it's the people that can't even afford to live by their job that have to drive far, so now they might have to pay more.
This is all of course not including the whole privacy issue along with any bugs that can be in the system. (I can picture it now, you pull up to the pump, and the 200mile a day commuter is on the opposite side and your pump makes you pay for their miles
)I don't think it will pass either... then again I didn't think a lot of things would happen 2 weeks ago

Originally Posted by Fatal Velocity
No hacking necessary, just start fillin up your five gallon bottles and say its for you boat, and wallah Cheaper gas.
Last edited by Monkeynutz; Nov 17, 2004 at 08:17 AM.
I have always believed that car tax should be abolished and levied on fuel instead. This way people that buy more efficient cars pay less tax per mile which would encourage a move to greater efficiency. It would also catch all those who currently 'avoid' paying vehicle tax because everyone has to buy gas.
Originally Posted by Lorry
I have always believed that car tax should be abolished and levied on fuel instead. This way people that buy more efficient cars pay less tax per mile which would encourage a move to greater efficiency. It would also catch all those who currently 'avoid' paying vehicle tax because everyone has to buy gas.
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I could see this sceme working if they did one very important thing; they need to make it so there's an incentive for driving fuel-effiecient cars. So they can lower the gas tax 18cents/gal like they say...and then tax per mile...but have different rates for different efficientcies of cars. If you get 30-40mpg, then your tax is say .5cents/mile...but if you get 10-15mpg, then your tax is 4cents/mile (all hypothetical numbers, just for example purpose).
With a plan like this, some people could save money (those who drive little with fuel efficient cars), some peopel could stay the same as now (those who drive far with fuel-efficient cars), and some would have to pay more (those who have fuel ineffiecient cars). Then maybe we could get rid of all of the SUVs that cause so much damage to the roads also...so they state would need less money to keep up the roads.
With a plan like this, some people could save money (those who drive little with fuel efficient cars), some peopel could stay the same as now (those who drive far with fuel-efficient cars), and some would have to pay more (those who have fuel ineffiecient cars). Then maybe we could get rid of all of the SUVs that cause so much damage to the roads also...so they state would need less money to keep up the roads.
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IMHO, it should be left alone. fuel efficient cars pay less in taxes per mile than less efficient vehicles, and that's the way i think it should be.
if the state is so set on changing the system to increase the budget, cut the gas tax a few cents per gallon and increase vehicle registration costs based on emissions for each specific vehicle based on it's most recent smog check (new cars not tested will be based on EPA emissions). that takes into account for people who keep their cars in better condition and less polluting as well as people who modify their cars for performance at the cost of emissions as well as fuel mileage.
if the state is so set on changing the system to increase the budget, cut the gas tax a few cents per gallon and increase vehicle registration costs based on emissions for each specific vehicle based on it's most recent smog check (new cars not tested will be based on EPA emissions). that takes into account for people who keep their cars in better condition and less polluting as well as people who modify their cars for performance at the cost of emissions as well as fuel mileage.



