Gaza Protest 1-10-2009 (pics)
It's really simple to end the "slaughter" in the Gaza. Unfortunately, the people who are in charge of stopping it don't really want to, until they get world opinion/sympathy on their side.
The COWARDS who hide behind women and children, and shield themselves with the lives of the innocent as they launch rockets into another country, THEY are the people who could simply end this quickly. But no, they choose to continue their cowardice, and not fight like real men, so that the "martyrdom" of the innocent can (and will) continue in order to put world opinion against the Israelis.
If they stop launching their rockets, then there will be peace and an end to the killing and violence. Proof? What about looking in the recent past. Before they started their campaign of rocket launching over the border, there was peace, Israel had unilaterally removed themselves from Gaza, and Hamas was elected to govern the area. Nobody (relatively) was getting killed and maimed, and Israel certainly wasn't ordering unprovoked attacks.
The COWARDS who hide behind women and children, and shield themselves with the lives of the innocent as they launch rockets into another country, THEY are the people who could simply end this quickly. But no, they choose to continue their cowardice, and not fight like real men, so that the "martyrdom" of the innocent can (and will) continue in order to put world opinion against the Israelis.
If they stop launching their rockets, then there will be peace and an end to the killing and violence. Proof? What about looking in the recent past. Before they started their campaign of rocket launching over the border, there was peace, Israel had unilaterally removed themselves from Gaza, and Hamas was elected to govern the area. Nobody (relatively) was getting killed and maimed, and Israel certainly wasn't ordering unprovoked attacks.
Listen to yourself: What you're saying is that if the non-combatant citizens of Gaza want the attacks to stop, if the innocent men, women and children want to stop dying, people that they have no control over should stop fighting. It is a common tactic by regimes to target innocents and blame their opponents. The only people making the IDF kill innocent people is the IDF.
There are no sides in this battle, there is no clear good/bad guy. There is only death and bombings, and Qassam rockets that have killed 13 Israelis since 2001 does not justify the wholesale slaughter of close to 1,000 innocent citizens since January 1st--and this is only the most recent aggression by the IDF.
In my opinion it boils down to this: Should Hamas stop launching rockets? Yes. Are rocket attacks a valid justification for Israel killing innocent citizens with F-16s and bombs? No.
Here's some food for thought: with all the money Israel has spent on weapons, they could have posted sentries at known Hamas rocket launching locations and targeted the actual people responsible.
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Our government gives billions every year to Israel, and that enables them to do what they are doing. In addition to money, we provide them with weapons; the F-16s that they are using to bomb Gaza were given to Israel by our government.
You should inform yourself better.
You should inform yourself better.
inform YOURSELF better.
they are wasting their time. if they actually wanted something to happen, they would get into office and make a change, instead of just *****ing about someone else.
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Our government gives billions every year to Israel, and that enables them to do what they are doing. In addition to money, we provide them with weapons; the F-16s that they are using to bomb Gaza were given to Israel by our government.
You should inform yourself better.
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It's really simple to end the "slaughter" in the Gaza. Unfortunately, the people who are in charge of stopping it don't really want to, until they get world opinion/sympathy on their side.
The COWARDS who hide behind women and children, and shield themselves with the lives of the innocent as they launch rockets into another country, THEY are the people who could simply end this quickly. But no, they choose to continue their cowardice, and not fight like real men, so that the "martyrdom" of the innocent can (and will) continue in order to put world opinion against the Israelis.
If they stop launching their rockets, then there will be peace and an end to the killing and violence. Proof? What about looking in the recent past. Before they started their campaign of rocket launching over the border, there was peace, Israel had unilaterally removed themselves from Gaza, and Hamas was elected to govern the area. Nobody (relatively) was getting killed and
maimed, and Israel certainly wasn't ordering unprovoked attacks.
The COWARDS who hide behind women and children, and shield themselves with the lives of the innocent as they launch rockets into another country, THEY are the people who could simply end this quickly. But no, they choose to continue their cowardice, and not fight like real men, so that the "martyrdom" of the innocent can (and will) continue in order to put world opinion against the Israelis.
If they stop launching their rockets, then there will be peace and an end to the killing and violence. Proof? What about looking in the recent past. Before they started their campaign of rocket launching over the border, there was peace, Israel had unilaterally removed themselves from Gaza, and Hamas was elected to govern the area. Nobody (relatively) was getting killed and
maimed, and Israel certainly wasn't ordering unprovoked attacks.
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I like your unilateral view, it's very enlightened. I'm twice as old as you are, and remember when Anwar Sadat was Prime Minister in Egypt. They quit attacking Israel, and look at them now. Israel isn't attacking them, now are they?I know you're not going to read this and even if you did it would make no difference, but I'm going to try anyway...
Listen to yourself: What you're saying is that if the non-combatant citizensWRONG - I said COWARDS (Hamas militants using innocent women and children as shields) of Gaza want the attacks to stop, if the innocent men, women and children want to stop dying, people that they have no control over should stop fighting.Looks like YOU are the one incapable of READING AND COMPREHENDING. It is a common tactic by regimes to target innocents and blame their opponents. The only people making the IDF kill innocent people is the IDF.Israel isn't blaming anyone. They're upset by this tragic loss of innocent life - on BOTH sides. They're using the smartest weaponry available in order to take out the Hamas, with the LEAST amount of collateral damage. This includes satellites, and other intelligence to pinpoint where the rockets are launched from.
There are no sides in this battle, there is no clear good/bad guy. Sure there is. Hamas militants launching unprovoked attack (rockets) into Israel = bad guysThere is only death and bombings, and Qassam rockets that have killed 13 Israelis since 2001 does not justify the wholesale slaughter of close to 1,000 innocent citizens since January 1st--and this is only the most recent aggression by the IDF.That's because, thankfully, their weapons technology isn't as capable. They fire blindly and don't give a damn who they kill/injure with their weapons.
In my opinion it boils down to this: Should Hamas stop launching rockets? Yes. Are rocket attacks a valid justification for Israel killing innocent citizens with F-16s and bombs? No.
Here's some food for thought: with all the money Israel has spent on weapons, they could have posted sentries at known Hamas rocket launching locations and targeted the actual people responsible.
Listen to yourself: What you're saying is that if the non-combatant citizensWRONG - I said COWARDS (Hamas militants using innocent women and children as shields) of Gaza want the attacks to stop, if the innocent men, women and children want to stop dying, people that they have no control over should stop fighting.Looks like YOU are the one incapable of READING AND COMPREHENDING. It is a common tactic by regimes to target innocents and blame their opponents. The only people making the IDF kill innocent people is the IDF.Israel isn't blaming anyone. They're upset by this tragic loss of innocent life - on BOTH sides. They're using the smartest weaponry available in order to take out the Hamas, with the LEAST amount of collateral damage. This includes satellites, and other intelligence to pinpoint where the rockets are launched from.
There are no sides in this battle, there is no clear good/bad guy. Sure there is. Hamas militants launching unprovoked attack (rockets) into Israel = bad guysThere is only death and bombings, and Qassam rockets that have killed 13 Israelis since 2001 does not justify the wholesale slaughter of close to 1,000 innocent citizens since January 1st--and this is only the most recent aggression by the IDF.That's because, thankfully, their weapons technology isn't as capable. They fire blindly and don't give a damn who they kill/injure with their weapons.
In my opinion it boils down to this: Should Hamas stop launching rockets? Yes. Are rocket attacks a valid justification for Israel killing innocent citizens with F-16s and bombs? No.
Here's some food for thought: with all the money Israel has spent on weapons, they could have posted sentries at known Hamas rocket launching locations and targeted the actual people responsible.
Simple solution - Hamas quits firing rockets, or Israel eliminates Hamas.
I stopped reading your reply when I got to this:
I knew which "cowards" you were referring to. You are jumping to a conclusion about my understanding of what you wrote.
Despite being "twice [my] age," you're obviously incapable of having a reasonable conversation that does not resort to personal attacks. I'm sorry that my opinion differs from yours; perhaps some day you'll come to terms with the fact that not everyone thinks like you--although I doubt it, considering your age. I hope the rest of your weekend is a good one.
I knew which "cowards" you were referring to. You are jumping to a conclusion about my understanding of what you wrote.
Despite being "twice [my] age," you're obviously incapable of having a reasonable conversation that does not resort to personal attacks. I'm sorry that my opinion differs from yours; perhaps some day you'll come to terms with the fact that not everyone thinks like you--although I doubt it, considering your age. I hope the rest of your weekend is a good one.
Do you actually think the people who are in charge of providing them with weapons are actually listening to the protestors?
inform YOURSELF better.
they are wasting their time. if they actually wanted something to happen, they would get into office and make a change, instead of just *****ing about someone else.
inform YOURSELF better.
they are wasting their time. if they actually wanted something to happen, they would get into office and make a change, instead of just *****ing about someone else.
Maybe someone should have told the women that during the Suffra--oh wait...
Well at least someone should have told the people responsible for the Boston Tea Party... oh.
You asked what good it does to protest in the United States over something happening in Palestine. If your years in special ops was really so beneficial to your understanding of civics, sociology and politics, then you shouldn't have had to ask that question.
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Oh, you mean protests are useless? ****, someone should have told the blacks that when they were protesting for civil rights. Oh wait--that's right, it did do something.
Maybe someone should have told the women that during the Suffra--oh wait...
Well at least someone should have told the people responsible for the Boston Tea Party... oh.

Maybe someone should have told the women that during the Suffra--oh wait...
Well at least someone should have told the people responsible for the Boston Tea Party... oh.

someone else, take a look at the differences:1. Blacks in THIS COUNTRY were protesting for their civil rights HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, not a country ~9,000 miles away.
2. Women were protesting for their right to vote HERE IN THIS COUNTRY, not a country on a different continent.
3. Boston Tea Party? I believe that was for protesting taxes from the King of England - not that we seem to have any relief from taxes anymore, so where did that get us?

Finish school, get the comparisons lined up equally, then come back and see us.
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Despite being "twice [my] age," you're obviously incapable of having a reasonable conversation that does not resort to personal attacks. I'm sorry that my opinion differs from yours; perhaps some day you'll come to terms with the fact that not everyone thinks like you--although I doubt it, considering your age. I hope the rest of your weekend is a good one.
Does my opinion differ? Yes. Do I concern myself with it, because your views differ from mine? No. Do I care if someone takes my words and tries to twist them to the opposite point of view than what I believe? Yes. That's where the issue lies. Don't make my words twist to fit your views. Our beliefs are different. The Hamas is another version of **** Germany. The religious sects who constantly act against the state of Israel act as another **** regime. Their goal, YES, it HAS been stated as their goal, is the elimination of Jews from the Earth, and the elimination of Israel as a state.
It seems as you'd prefer that. I personally don't.
I have not yet read any replies past what I wrote earlier, but I will say this:
Just because I am critical of Israel's bombing that does not mean that I support Hamas' violence against Israel.
Just because I am critical of Israel's bombing that does not mean that I support Hamas' violence against Israel.
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I think we need to start worrying more about our own well being. I'm sorry it may sound selfish but whatever. We have been spending way to much time and money on other peoples ****.
Before you
someone else, take a look at the differences:
1. Blacks in THIS COUNTRY were protesting for their civil rights HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, not a country ~9,000 miles away.
2. Women were protesting for their right to vote HERE IN THIS COUNTRY, not a country on a different continent.
someone else, take a look at the differences:1. Blacks in THIS COUNTRY were protesting for their civil rights HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, not a country ~9,000 miles away.
2. Women were protesting for their right to vote HERE IN THIS COUNTRY, not a country on a different continent.
Right. I don't know how old you think I am, but maybe you should take a look at my profile and reevaluate your assumptions, bub.
Let them ****ing die. Stop supporting Israel and other countries, and lets focus on building ourselves.


