Dry Ice = pwnz!!! Bye bye heat soak!

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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I'm more of a computer guy and this thread reminds me of people using water cooling systems in their computers.
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dkohn1337
Metal fabricators use ice cold water to cool off burning hot pipes after they are finished with their product. I think you should be fine.
The hell they do! you use cold water on cromo or DOM and you will have a brittle spot. Also you splash a fresh weld before its cooled down your going to have a weak joint.
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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The hell they do! you use cold water on cromo or DOM and you will have a brittle spot. Also you splash a fresh weld before its cooled down your going to have a weak joint.
Thats what I was thinking
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dkohn1337
Metal fabricators use ice cold water to cool off burning hot pipes after they are finished with their product. I think you should be fine.
Are you sure you know what your talking about here? I've been a pipefitter/ welder for about 5 years now and have never seen someone rapidly cool a piece of metal by dunking it in ice cold water. Especially dealing with anything with iron in it (like all steels) water is not great because it makes it rust obviously. When we weld something careful consideration is taken to the weld afected area no to over heat it (by welding to fast back to back, or allow it to cool too fast with more ductile iron. Now old school black smithing is something different. I believe they would temper steel by heating it up to a almost molten state and then quickly quench the steel in water (room temp) to harden the steel and make it more ductile (stronger but much more britle).
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Originally Posted by SR20steve
Are you sure you know what your talking about here? I've been a pipefitter/ welder for about 5 years now and have never seen someone rapidly cool a piece of metal by dunking it in ice cold water. Especially dealing with anything with iron in it (like all steels) water is not great because it makes it rust obviously. When we weld something careful consideration is taken to the weld afected area no to over heat it (by welding to fast back to back, or allow it to cool too fast with more ductile iron. Now old school black smithing is something different. I believe they would temper steel by heating it up to a almost molten state and then quickly quench the steel in water (room temp) to harden the steel and make it more ductile (stronger but much more britle).
What the **** do you know?!?!

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20steve
Are you sure you know what your talking about here? I've been a pipefitter/ welder for about 5 years now and have never seen someone rapidly cool a piece of metal by dunking it in ice cold water. Especially dealing with anything with iron in it (like all steels) water is not great because it makes it rust obviously. When we weld something careful consideration is taken to the weld afected area no to over heat it (by welding to fast back to back, or allow it to cool too fast with more ductile iron. Now old school black smithing is something different. I believe they would temper steel by heating it up to a almost molten state and then quickly quench the steel in water (room temp) to harden the steel and make it more ductile (stronger but much more britle).
I saw it in a western, it must be true.
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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I think dkohn was talking about tempering. However, with welding, you'll temper that weld right in half.
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pactin
If you stop moving air into the scoop, then yes.
But in my experience the car doesnt suffer in the winter, sure the intercooler maybe 'warm' but the dense cold air changes that REAL fast. I had my car sitting for over an hour waiting for my turn at the drag strip last week (intercooler was warm to touch) and I still managed to run a 12.8. At the end of the run, the IC is cold.

I will agree that heatsoak in the summer makes your car feel like its dragging an anchor but in December, heatsoak has always been a non issue for me.
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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besides heat soak can be solved with a simple item subtle makes, a "chimney" that channels heat from the turbo away from the TMIC and out the scoop when at rest.
Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Why not just spray co2 or nitrous on the intercooler? Wasn't that all the rage a few years ago or something?

Look, a flat ring for top mounts:
http://www.designengineering.com/pro...asp?m=sp&pid=5

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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387140
Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Anyone who thinks aluminum and certain other metals can not be ruined by extreme heating and cooling is an idiot.

Im no expert I use to run my 5 liter at sacramento in the 1/4 for fun. Mainly test and tune days so everyone would do a lot of runs. NEVER did anybody I know who was knowledgable use dry ice, infact they said the same thing (that it was bad to use). A lot of people used ice and dealt with the annoyingness of it.

Think about the physics of what happens when something gets that cold/extremely hot, think about dry ice bombs exploding.


Also anybody who drives their car hard, and then thinks their intercooler shouldn't be hot to the touch, well **** I don't even know what to say.
Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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This is why air to water intercoolers are far far superior...A lot more money, but superior.



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