ClubWRX member and passenger perish in tragic accident
Your all a bunch of ****ing pussies. If i do something stupid and have to pay with my life for it then so be it dont pity me at all. I dont want it nor would i want it. If i make a ****ty choice i am the only one to answer for it. Now if i do something stupid and it puts someone elses life in jepordy then I will be the first to admit its stupidity. If im not around to do that then let this be that notice. Its a shame two people had to pay so dearly for the mistake of one. That is my whole point, that is the part of this whole story that burns me the most, yes it is a loss within its self. It is more of a tradegy that someone else had to pass along with the driver. If i am being to insensitive for you bite my dick and call me jill. Im just being honest and to the point and yes somewhat blunt. Dont like me for it? Tought **** i never liked you then either.
I know that is a hard line stance but it just pisses me off that the actions of one or a few people can adversly effect the lives of so damn many. ESP when it involves accidents and cars (drunk driving etc) its a shame that we had to lose two of our brothers in hobby to such a horrifc accident. Not to say it would have been better to only lose one or the other, just that when someone makes their own mistakes and pays for them its much easier to deal with then when that mistake effects others so directly. Anyways im doing being a ******** just hope i get my point across, and i will stop posting in this thread now.
I know that is a hard line stance but it just pisses me off that the actions of one or a few people can adversly effect the lives of so damn many. ESP when it involves accidents and cars (drunk driving etc) its a shame that we had to lose two of our brothers in hobby to such a horrifc accident. Not to say it would have been better to only lose one or the other, just that when someone makes their own mistakes and pays for them its much easier to deal with then when that mistake effects others so directly. Anyways im doing being a ******** just hope i get my point across, and i will stop posting in this thread now.
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Originally posted by dr3d1zzl3
Your all a bunch of ****ing pussies. If i do something stupid and have to pay with my life for it then so be it dont pity me at all. I dont want it nor would i want it. If i make a ****ty choice i am the only one to answer for it. Now if i do something stupid and it puts someone elses life in jepordy then I will be the first to admit its stupidity. If im not around to do that then let this be that notice. Its a shame two people had to pay so dearly for the mistake of one. That is my whole point, that is the part of this whole story that burns me the most, yes it is a loss within its self. It is more of a tradegy that someone else had to pass along with the driver. If i am being to insensitive for you bite my dick and call me jill. Im just being honest and to the point and yes somewhat blunt. Dont like me for it? Tought **** i never liked you then either.
I know that is a hard line stance but it just pisses me off that the actions of one or a few people can adversly effect the lives of so damn many. ESP when it involves accidents and cars (drunk driving etc) its a shame that we had to lose two of our brothers in hobby to such a horrifc accident. Not to say it would have been better to only lose one or the other, just that when someone makes their own mistakes and pays for them its much easier to deal with then when that mistake effects others so directly. Anyways im doing being a ******** just hope i get my point across, and i will stop posting in this thread now.
Your all a bunch of ****ing pussies. If i do something stupid and have to pay with my life for it then so be it dont pity me at all. I dont want it nor would i want it. If i make a ****ty choice i am the only one to answer for it. Now if i do something stupid and it puts someone elses life in jepordy then I will be the first to admit its stupidity. If im not around to do that then let this be that notice. Its a shame two people had to pay so dearly for the mistake of one. That is my whole point, that is the part of this whole story that burns me the most, yes it is a loss within its self. It is more of a tradegy that someone else had to pass along with the driver. If i am being to insensitive for you bite my dick and call me jill. Im just being honest and to the point and yes somewhat blunt. Dont like me for it? Tought **** i never liked you then either.
I know that is a hard line stance but it just pisses me off that the actions of one or a few people can adversly effect the lives of so damn many. ESP when it involves accidents and cars (drunk driving etc) its a shame that we had to lose two of our brothers in hobby to such a horrifc accident. Not to say it would have been better to only lose one or the other, just that when someone makes their own mistakes and pays for them its much easier to deal with then when that mistake effects others so directly. Anyways im doing being a ******** just hope i get my point across, and i will stop posting in this thread now.
Evan, who was an innocent passenger lost his life b/c the driver made a wrong decision. If the driver was doing this alone and he took his own life it still would have been bad, but atleast he would not have taken Evan down with him.
Don't get my wrong, I still feel very bad for the driver loosing his life, but I am way more sad about Evan loosing his life, he was just riding along.
-Zoeb
well i guess im a bit more militant about this sort of thing then you, i think when people make such choices it is one of hte most selfish acts a person can do. I wont lie i have done it many times, and many times i have come damn close to the same conclusion are two freinds came to. For that reason alone i can sit back and look at the two near fatal crashes i have been in due to such choices and say what i am saying. I have been thru the valley of death and walked right past the end of it looked back and flipped everyone off. (well not realy but i have been in two accidents where everyone in the car should have been dead)
I can admit to my weakness of mind back then, i personaly didnt give two rats asses about what could have happened to me or the other people in the car at the time. I was an *** of monumental proportions in the way i drove with other people around. I was one of the most self centered selfish people i have ever encountered to be dead honest. What changed it all you may ask? My near run in with death the first time wasnt even enought to make me wake the hell up and see what sort of an *** i was. It took two times, the last of which nearly killed 3 of my closest friend in a roll over on airbase (almost ended up in the crack head apartments). **** that didnt even seal the deal, two weeks after that i shattered botht eh bones in my left arm at eagle lake. Only after surgery and 6 months of sitting on my *** barely being able to move my fingers did it finaly sink in. Even know i still have bouts of "*******". That is my point, i want to be LOUD AND CLEAR to those of us who are still "asses" that this sort of **** while it may seem harmless at the time can and will eventually bite you in the ***. May not be now, may not be tomrrow but if you keep pushing it IT WILL HAPPEN. Try and keep it to the track, and DEFINATLY dont do this sort of crap with someone else in the car. In my book it is fine and dandy to **** around when it is just you in the car. But to do it with someone else in the car is just selfish. ESP if your going to do some stupid ish like pas on the left. (at least do it on the right for the love of god, plus you get 10 more savage asshat points for passing on the right on a two lane road)
anyways with this last post im done (i swear)
I can admit to my weakness of mind back then, i personaly didnt give two rats asses about what could have happened to me or the other people in the car at the time. I was an *** of monumental proportions in the way i drove with other people around. I was one of the most self centered selfish people i have ever encountered to be dead honest. What changed it all you may ask? My near run in with death the first time wasnt even enought to make me wake the hell up and see what sort of an *** i was. It took two times, the last of which nearly killed 3 of my closest friend in a roll over on airbase (almost ended up in the crack head apartments). **** that didnt even seal the deal, two weeks after that i shattered botht eh bones in my left arm at eagle lake. Only after surgery and 6 months of sitting on my *** barely being able to move my fingers did it finaly sink in. Even know i still have bouts of "*******". That is my point, i want to be LOUD AND CLEAR to those of us who are still "asses" that this sort of **** while it may seem harmless at the time can and will eventually bite you in the ***. May not be now, may not be tomrrow but if you keep pushing it IT WILL HAPPEN. Try and keep it to the track, and DEFINATLY dont do this sort of crap with someone else in the car. In my book it is fine and dandy to **** around when it is just you in the car. But to do it with someone else in the car is just selfish. ESP if your going to do some stupid ish like pas on the left. (at least do it on the right for the love of god, plus you get 10 more savage asshat points for passing on the right on a two lane road)
anyways with this last post im done (i swear)
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The way I feel is everyone makes mistakes and I’m sure the driver realizes that where ever he is and I forgive him. Life ain,t perfect ... as we all are humans. Nothing is "perfect".
I will be the first to admit I do stupid things everyday, and remember that at time those studied things don’t seem to be "stupid" there cool up until the point where something goes wrong. (Example: burnouts, drifts, illegal drag racing, speeding, aggressive mountain driving, even unprotected sex)
And André no ****ing ***** here bro!
Edgar,
I will be the first to admit I do stupid things everyday, and remember that at time those studied things don’t seem to be "stupid" there cool up until the point where something goes wrong. (Example: burnouts, drifts, illegal drag racing, speeding, aggressive mountain driving, even unprotected sex)
And André no ****ing ***** here bro!
Edgar,
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wow... when i first saw it i couldnt believe it. Evan would stop by i-speed to get some work done and he would always hang out with us afterwards. Such a horrible way he had to pass i just wish he didnt feel any pain. There are no words that can describe the shock and emptiness of finding out about his death has done. My condolences go out to his family and loved ones. Evan you will be missed.
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Originally posted by AC_gohan
wow... when i first saw it i couldnt believe it. Evan would stop by i-speed to get some work done and he would always hang out with us afterwards. Such a horrible way he had to pass i just wish he didnt feel any pain. There are no words that can describe the shock and emptiness of finding out about his death has done. My condolences go out to his family and loved ones. Evan you will be missed.
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wow... when i first saw it i couldnt believe it. Evan would stop by i-speed to get some work done and he would always hang out with us afterwards. Such a horrible way he had to pass i just wish he didnt feel any pain. There are no words that can describe the shock and emptiness of finding out about his death has done. My condolences go out to his family and loved ones. Evan you will be missed.
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damn dr3d1zzl3. I can see where you are coming from. But I just thinks it's out of line. Am I a ***** for putting the families well being ahead of anger right now...well if I am so be it. Do I get pissed for similar reason's as you. Hell yeah. Shoot my first response in my head was similar to yours...shouldn't have been screwing around. But putting it up on the board so family and friend have to read it just seems wrong to me. Then calling people out and calling them pussies for having a different stance is just chickin **** bro. This is suppose to be a family. Family supports each other even through mistakes. Even crap like this.
And beyond that I don't think you were in that car? Correct? Do you know without a doubt that evan wasn't sitting there talking to him. I know I've been in situations like that...same damn one nearly actually.....went like this. Me and my little brother cruising down a two laner at night...late. He's like dude this guy is going slow...I says pass him then> He's like nah man it's not that big a deal. I said pass him fool. He does....just as a huge 70's sedan comes flying over the hill and around the bend. We had to go between a telephone pole and the car. I was looking at the guys eyes when he went by us.....if my brother didn't have a lot of racing...on the track..including a national championship under his belt and had lost his cool. He would have killed us both and possibly one or two others.
Would it have been right for you to respond like you are in that situation? I don't think so cause it was just as much my fault as his...he made the final decision...but after being pushed. You have no clue if that's how it went down or not Evan may or may not have been a participant in the choice to make that pass.
But as I said before...that's besides the point. Kids funerals are this weekend. Most people here will move on with another one in the memory banks. But family and friends are gonna have to deal with this for the rest of their lives. Mistake or not. I'd really like to see some kind words about these kids for friends and family to read..
If you want to go out getting yelled out and fingers pointed that's you're call. If you want to name call and jump on people with an absence of compassion then that's you're call as well. But I just have to stay with my stance...it's just out of place bro. Opinions are entitled of course. You don't like mine. I don't like yours.
And beyond that I don't think you were in that car? Correct? Do you know without a doubt that evan wasn't sitting there talking to him. I know I've been in situations like that...same damn one nearly actually.....went like this. Me and my little brother cruising down a two laner at night...late. He's like dude this guy is going slow...I says pass him then> He's like nah man it's not that big a deal. I said pass him fool. He does....just as a huge 70's sedan comes flying over the hill and around the bend. We had to go between a telephone pole and the car. I was looking at the guys eyes when he went by us.....if my brother didn't have a lot of racing...on the track..including a national championship under his belt and had lost his cool. He would have killed us both and possibly one or two others.
Would it have been right for you to respond like you are in that situation? I don't think so cause it was just as much my fault as his...he made the final decision...but after being pushed. You have no clue if that's how it went down or not Evan may or may not have been a participant in the choice to make that pass.
But as I said before...that's besides the point. Kids funerals are this weekend. Most people here will move on with another one in the memory banks. But family and friends are gonna have to deal with this for the rest of their lives. Mistake or not. I'd really like to see some kind words about these kids for friends and family to read..
If you want to go out getting yelled out and fingers pointed that's you're call. If you want to name call and jump on people with an absence of compassion then that's you're call as well. But I just have to stay with my stance...it's just out of place bro. Opinions are entitled of course. You don't like mine. I don't like yours.
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I saw this thread a while ago and honestly never paid much attention to it. I have been to involved/absorbed with work.
Last night, I received a phone call (1 am) and was informed about Evan's passing.
Needless to say I feel like a real *** for not noticing this earlier.
I really love I-Speed. Hell, I gave up a great high paying career to give this company a shot. All I do now is WORK. I rarely noticing things that are happening in the REAL world.
This whole thing, Evan dying, is really shocking and eye-opening to me. He did hang out with us, buy us lunch, talked about MY SLO days, and even partied with us. Evan was a really good guy. I am truly sad to hear of his unfortunate and senseless death.
It's no secret, we at I-Speed, love to make Subaru's go fast. Heck, why do you think we named it I SPEED not Idrive like a STUPID moron.
Moving forward, let's make an effort to keep having fun with our cars, be mindful of our driving consequences, and responsible & considerate enough not to make innocent people pay for our mistakes.
Please drive safe.
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Last night, I received a phone call (1 am) and was informed about Evan's passing.
Needless to say I feel like a real *** for not noticing this earlier.
I really love I-Speed. Hell, I gave up a great high paying career to give this company a shot. All I do now is WORK. I rarely noticing things that are happening in the REAL world.
This whole thing, Evan dying, is really shocking and eye-opening to me. He did hang out with us, buy us lunch, talked about MY SLO days, and even partied with us. Evan was a really good guy. I am truly sad to hear of his unfortunate and senseless death.
It's no secret, we at I-Speed, love to make Subaru's go fast. Heck, why do you think we named it I SPEED not Idrive like a STUPID moron.
Moving forward, let's make an effort to keep having fun with our cars, be mindful of our driving consequences, and responsible & considerate enough not to make innocent people pay for our mistakes.
Please drive safe.
Regards,
Chris
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There is a funeral for Evan this saturday.
Details posted here, please try to make it
https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...threadid=46399
Details posted here, please try to make it
https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...threadid=46399
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i knoew him personally in high school, and played tennis with him on the team. i am deeply sadden to hear this, i go to school in san diego, i wish i could be there
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