Burn Clutch smell 1st gear..Help
12-19-2012, 12:02 PM
#1
Burn Clutch smell 1st gear..Help
I have the Burn Clutch Smell only in first gear.. The gears shift fine and no slippage; however when I press the clutch only in 1st gear about 30% pressed I feel the clutch feels rough. I also do feel a little shutter when driving in 1st gear from a stop sign.
I ran through all the gears shifts fine, downshifts fine.
I did have a little issue where I was going uphill in SF and a cat crossed infront of me and I had to stop and burned my clutch. I know if there is damage its from that, but is this something that can go away as far as the clutch deglazing itself?..or time for a new clutch?
Anything to check for?
I ran through all the gears shifts fine, downshifts fine.
I did have a little issue where I was going uphill in SF and a cat crossed infront of me and I had to stop and burned my clutch. I know if there is damage its from that, but is this something that can go away as far as the clutch deglazing itself?..or time for a new clutch?
Anything to check for?
12-19-2012, 12:36 PM
#5
50K on the clutch..
and dont ask about how i stopped..lol...lets say huge *** hill, going upward in the middle of the hill, dark as heck, and white cat runs across. I slam on the clutch, forgot to shiftdown, let go clutch..and i totally forgot what i did next..next thing i know, cars reving, clutch is smelling...I compose myself hit it back to first gear middle of the hill, balance it and go up the hill.
Gawd I hate the SF hills
and dont ask about how i stopped..lol...lets say huge *** hill, going upward in the middle of the hill, dark as heck, and white cat runs across. I slam on the clutch, forgot to shiftdown, let go clutch..and i totally forgot what i did next..next thing i know, cars reving, clutch is smelling...I compose myself hit it back to first gear middle of the hill, balance it and go up the hill.
Gawd I hate the SF hills
Last edited by hYpE-R-29; 12-19-2012 at 01:56 PM.
12-19-2012, 01:52 PM
#7
50K on the clutch..
and dont ask about how i stopped..lol...lets say huge *** hill, going upward in the middle of the hill, dark as heck, and white cat runs across. I slam on the clutch, forgot to shiftdown, let go clutch..and i totally forgot what i did next..next thing i know, cars reving, clutch is smelling...I compose myself hit it back to first gear middle of the hill, balance it and go up the hill.
Gawd I had the SF hills
and dont ask about how i stopped..lol...lets say huge *** hill, going upward in the middle of the hill, dark as heck, and white cat runs across. I slam on the clutch, forgot to shiftdown, let go clutch..and i totally forgot what i did next..next thing i know, cars reving, clutch is smelling...I compose myself hit it back to first gear middle of the hill, balance it and go up the hill.
Gawd I had the SF hills
12-19-2012, 01:57 PM
#8
Check to make sure the clutch pedal is correctly wired. My buddy has a similar problem where the clutch pedal was a tad bit engaged even when no pressure was applied and it caused pressure on the clutch and produced the burning smell. Make sure your kick point is correctly adjusted...idk why it would only be in first gear tho just an idea
12-19-2012, 02:02 PM
#9
Check to make sure the clutch pedal is correctly wired. My buddy has a similar problem where the clutch pedal was a tad bit engaged even when no pressure was applied and it caused pressure on the clutch and produced the burning smell. Make sure your kick point is correctly adjusted...idk why it would only be in first gear tho just an idea
If you add any sort of pressure to your clutch pedal, it will NOT cause clutch smell (at least smell coming from excessive friction between friction plate and clutch disc) if you are applying pressure to clutch pedal and you start to smell something, it most prob is you throwout bearing scorching the pressure fingers. (IIRC for both RS
ush type and WRX: pull type)have you check the basics? Like tranny oil. sounds far fetched, but if you think about it; the more resistance is on the gears (low on oil) the more pressure and stress is put on the friction point (clutch disc and pressure plate). does it make sense that if this were the case, you would need to apply more gas to get the car moving (in turn burning out the clutch)
just my quick 2 cents
12-19-2012, 03:48 PM
#10
just to help out: careful with how you word things. im a little confused with this post.
If you add any sort of pressure to your clutch pedal, it will NOT cause clutch smell (at least smell coming from excessive friction between friction plate and clutch disc) if you are applying pressure to clutch pedal and you start to smell something, it most prob is you throwout bearing scorching the pressure fingers. (IIRC for both RSush type and WRX: pull type)
have you check the basics? Like tranny oil. sounds far fetched, but if you think about it; the more resistance is on the gears (low on oil) the more pressure and stress is put on the friction point (clutch disc and pressure plate). does it make sense that if this were the case, you would need to apply more gas to get the car moving (in turn burning out the clutch)
just my quick 2 cents
If you add any sort of pressure to your clutch pedal, it will NOT cause clutch smell (at least smell coming from excessive friction between friction plate and clutch disc) if you are applying pressure to clutch pedal and you start to smell something, it most prob is you throwout bearing scorching the pressure fingers. (IIRC for both RS
ush type and WRX: pull type)have you check the basics? Like tranny oil. sounds far fetched, but if you think about it; the more resistance is on the gears (low on oil) the more pressure and stress is put on the friction point (clutch disc and pressure plate). does it make sense that if this were the case, you would need to apply more gas to get the car moving (in turn burning out the clutch)
just my quick 2 cents
Thanks..Checked Tranny Oil. It is on point. I run Motul Gear 300.
12-19-2012, 03:54 PM
#11
hmmm...well thats good. this really is a weird case. i usually burn my clutch on 1st, but thats because i know i didnt meticulously align the clutch assembky when i serviced it and it slips in first. but you are saying its not slipping or anything. i also have "clutch chatter" like you describe, but again, i know its a tiny tiny misalignment on the clutch
12-19-2012, 04:35 PM
#14
+1. thats what im thinking. with slippage and chatter, you could be riding on rivets!!!! and with clutch smell it is for sure slipping. have u tried a clutch test to verify you actually are not slipping?
clutch test: get up to 50 or so MPH in 5th gear. while coasting and your foot still on the gas pedal, slam on the clutch pedal and release pedal quickly. this will disengage then re engage the clutch while power is being given to engine. if your RPMs return back to where they were before clutch pedal was pushed, clutch is fine. if the RPM sky rockets or slowly start to creep up, you have a slipping clutch and need to replace it.
good luck!
clutch test: get up to 50 or so MPH in 5th gear. while coasting and your foot still on the gas pedal, slam on the clutch pedal and release pedal quickly. this will disengage then re engage the clutch while power is being given to engine. if your RPMs return back to where they were before clutch pedal was pushed, clutch is fine. if the RPM sky rockets or slowly start to creep up, you have a slipping clutch and need to replace it.
good luck!
12-20-2012, 07:48 AM
#15
+1. thats what im thinking. with slippage and chatter, you could be riding on rivets!!!! and with clutch smell it is for sure slipping. have u tried a clutch test to verify you actually are not slipping?
clutch test: get up to 50 or so MPH in 5th gear. while coasting and your foot still on the gas pedal, slam on the clutch pedal and release pedal quickly. this will disengage then re engage the clutch while power is being given to engine. if your RPMs return back to where they were before clutch pedal was pushed, clutch is fine. if the RPM sky rockets or slowly start to creep up, you have a slipping clutch and need to replace it.
good luck!
clutch test: get up to 50 or so MPH in 5th gear. while coasting and your foot still on the gas pedal, slam on the clutch pedal and release pedal quickly. this will disengage then re engage the clutch while power is being given to engine. if your RPMs return back to where they were before clutch pedal was pushed, clutch is fine. if the RPM sky rockets or slowly start to creep up, you have a slipping clutch and need to replace it.
good luck!
Buuuuuut.....I decided to find another hill, so I drove in the middle of a hill stopped when back to 1st gear, balanced the clutch hit the gas and slight shudder, then car moved forward.