I'm definitely good with this.

 

wud i miss wud i miss... i had to go sit down and pee...

 

Well, I've been asked not to post the link to the exchange so I won't.

After Jeff comes back maybe he will.

I will say drama seems to follow the same individuals...funny how that works.

 

Your manhood.

 

OH, so we get to see Rau's "beef" then?


HEHE just kidding buddy.

 

One or two beers gives most people the courage to say what they really want to say. I wouldn't suggest this kind of talk to be combined with heavy drinking though, that'd end poorly.

 

I definitely agree with this. Everytime I went to a meet, and just the other day as well, all I hear is people b*&#@ing about how much they hate so and so and how they don't like how so and so is doing this and that. My thing is this.. instead of being one of those people who whine about everything, why not try to resolve things. Talking crap about one another gets you nowhere in life. We are all suppose to be adults, yet we all act like we're still little kids. We tell kids not to argue and fight over something so small, yet we do the same exact things. In the end where does it get anyone??? NO WHERE. I will be honest.. I've hung out with both sides as well and every time someone brings up BAM, i just walk away because I know where the conversation is going to head. It's all immature crap. I like and get along with everyone I've met and no offense or anything, but sometimes I just get so sick of the crap I hear from your guy's mouths. Just learn to accept the fact that we all have our differences in opinions and just let it be.

Yes, why can't ANYONE confront one another when they're in person, but once that person isn't there.. all people do is talk their sh*t.. Why do people have to be so fake? If there is an issue that needs resolving, who best to resolve the problem with, than the person you're having the issue with??? That's all I'm saying.

Here's one way you ALL can go about things. It's comes down to who has the ***** to actually speak their mind once the computers/laptops/phones are off..

I've met both rescuer and brucelee and honestly, I think they're both pretty cool guys, each of their own of course. Brucelee reminds me of a few of my friends. People hate him so much, yet they've never met him. I mean, at first I thought he was kinda mean because of his strong personality, but I knew I couldn't judge him ONLY of what I read online. That's a horrible way to get a feel of what a person's like. In person, he does have a "loud" personality but I think it's cool. Nice and funny guy who has his own opinions, like the rest of us. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Rescuer is a very nice and silly guy who, seems to me, is a bit on the sensitive side, but sensitive is good sometimes, but other times, it leaves one to become vulnerable to the point where if someone says something they don't like, they try to separate themselves. Honestly, I thought online he was acting equivalent to how brucelee was acting, so once both met their match.. everything was defense mode.

My point is this, At times, I really don't like either personalities online, but in person they're completely different. Don't let this online drama get to you. They're just words..

I've met other people who talk crap about Brucelee and say they hate him but a MAJORITY of them have TRIED to get to know him because they hate who he is online. Some people have different personalities that some of us aren't used to. But why must we all fear someone who is different? I'm glad that I never allowed my "brucelee sounds mean" attitude get in the way because I honestly would've missed out A LOT. I originally didn't want to go to BAM because brucelee made me sad haha jkjk.. but really.. it was because people kept feeding me all this bs and after awhile i got sick of it and realized i need to not listen to what other people say.

Instead, I went to BAM, met brucelee, met TONS of people who I can call a great group of friends, and hung out with brucelee and other people, and in the end.. I still appreciate all of my friends. NOT because of some dumb online dispute, but because I CHOSE not to allow other people's bs blind me.

Now.. with that being said.. I very much agree with probably 100% of the things matt said. Like I told you that one night.. This drama's annoying. So.. Can we all just get along??? haha

 

****ing n00bs, I've said it before countless times and I'll say it again:

If you don't like the way i-Club runs, then you can just leave.

That's all


Sure, I'm unhappy about some things here, but you know what? There are a lot of things that I still like about i-Club, so I've stopped giving a rat's *** about the things I don't like and I carry on like a mature adult. Simple, right? If the day ever comes when in my eyes the bad outweighs the good here on i-Club, you know what I'll do? I'll leave. Simple as that.

So for those n00bs that think they can come and act like some sort of "boss" on i-Club, forget it already, ain't happening. And for old schoolers that forgot their roots, check yourself. And you know what? If none of that happens, I don't give a crap, I'll stay on i-Club until I don't feel like it anymore

 

Actually, I was thinking about this some more. Discussing differences over a few pints can help between friends, but you have to look at this community. What ties us all together? Subaru. That's the only constant between 99% of the people here. Look at your friends. Why are you friends with them? Similar personalities, get along well, she has big *****. It's all deeper stuff than owning the same brand car. And thats why you typically get along with your friends, or can overcome differences in opinions.

With such a large community being connected on such an insignificant thing as owning a Subaru, of course people aren't going to get along! This is why you aren't friends with 100% of the people you meet! Just because they are a person, doesn't mean you're going to get along. Yeah, I've met other i-clubbers and they've been great friends. Most of the good friends I've made after high school I have met via Subaru meets, but the reason we became friends was because there were other connections. I've also met people that I've gone "meh, not really my kind of person."

So where am I going with this? You're going to meet people you don't get along with. How do you handle this in a situation where interaction takes place often such as posting on i-club?

•Realize and come to terms with the fact that not everyone is going to like you. Even if comments are directed towards you, don't take it personally, its their personality.
•Understand that some people are going to try to talk **** but it really has no bearing on your life.
•Don't ever forget that your reaction to someone or something is UNDER YOUR CONTROL.

I've met some people in my life that really have no respect for others and just want to further their lives at the expensive of others. Rather hurtful people. It sucks coming to terms with the idea that they have no remorse for their parasitic habits, but my life is not dependent on theirs. I could go on complaining about it whenever the opportunity arises, or I can move on.

All of you (that are involved, and you know who you are) are saying the same things of each other. "They said this, they did that." But you are denying yourselves of the power to WALK AWAY. No one ever said it was easy, no one ever said it was completely fair. Remaining in the situation is detrimental to yourselves and those around you.

Damnit Daniel stop acting like you're so innocent. You know very well the uncalled for **** you've pulled. You know very well that the reason you were stripped of mod status was because of your actions rather than because you were "tired of the drama."

 

watch what you say Matt. you might get banned........ and then the thread would up and disappear

I got enough "beef" for everyone

 

I once wrote a paper for a teacher about why the tenure system is detrimental to students. It was a paper on why she should no longer be teaching. It was written perfectly and I had never received anything lower than a B on any college paper. People told me she'd probably fail me because it was directed at her. My only response was "That would prove my point that she shouldn't be teaching, and there is someone above her to take my appeal to."

Daniel doesn't like what I have to say? There are people above him that know what I said was nothing to be banned over. What are the possible outcomes?
•I get a timeout from i-club? I think I'll be able to fill my time.
•I get permabanned from i-club? No giant loss.
•At least some of the people involved decide to finally take a step back and reevaluate everything? The community wins.

 

Wait, WHAT? I was never stripped of my mod status, I have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not saying I'm innocent, I'm saying that I would love to resolve issues with people, and trust me, I've tried only to have that person reject any sort of diplomatic efforts I make and just insult me for trying to bury the hatchet.

Actually, I have something to show you which is a perfect example of exactly what I just said that a member sent to me a couple days ago after I tried to resolve some tensions between us.

My problem is that I can't keep my mouth shut when someone insults me. I usually ignore stuff but after a while I get fed up and end up defending myself which in turn creates more drama then originally existed. I never talk smack to people out of the blue for no reason, please find a thread or post where I flamed/bashed someone for no reason at all. The only time I ever say anything is in response to people doing it first. Is that ok? No it's not and I'm working at ignoring people better then I have been.

I know I'm not innocent, and you can't say that you are either. You even talked about how much drama you were involved with at the Hammy meet for that meteor shower. You're very different in real life then you are online, and I'm the same way. I think 90% of it is all from misunderstandings too. Growing up my friends and I would always talk smack to one another in real life but in a friendly way where we teased each other. When that happens online you lose the "teasing" part and it sounds like you're beiing serious. Sarcasm doesn't translate online either and those two factors alone cause a lot of drama which sucks because none of it is meant to harm anyone.

I really want to meet up with some of the people that think I'm the anti-christ and have a beer or burger with them where we can discuss any issues we might have. This would be the ideal way to deal with all of this but sadly no one wants to take the time or effort to do this and people would rather stick with their friends and talk bad about others when they get together. It's easy to have enemies but it takes work to have friends.

Anyway, check the PM I'm about to send you so you know what I'm talking about.


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