4 Police Officers killed in Washington
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4 Police Officers killed in Washington
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Horrible news.. and only 4 days after Thanksgiving.. condolences to the families of the 4 officers. I can't imagine what they're going through right now
I hope they find the man who did this so that those 4 officers may eventually rest in peace.
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Horrible news.. and only 4 days after Thanksgiving.. condolences to the families of the 4 officers. I can't imagine what they're going through right now

I hope they find the man who did this so that those 4 officers may eventually rest in peace.
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God, as if seeing the other thread where that dude killed 6 family members including a little girl while she slept thread wasn't bad enough... Jeeeeze, RIP and condolences to the families and loved ones.
Edit, just watched the video and now realize that they didn't catch or kill the guy responsible for it!!! Holy crap, can we say manhunt anyone?
What was the deal with someone confessing falsely? The sheriff mentioned something about it but didn't say much... What happened with that?
Man, I hope the suspect is shot and suffering somewhere right now. Damn, this is crazy... This year has NOT been good for the police of this nation. First Oakland, then Pittsburgh, and now this? RIP
Edit, just watched the video and now realize that they didn't catch or kill the guy responsible for it!!! Holy crap, can we say manhunt anyone?

What was the deal with someone confessing falsely? The sheriff mentioned something about it but didn't say much... What happened with that?
Man, I hope the suspect is shot and suffering somewhere right now. Damn, this is crazy... This year has NOT been good for the police of this nation. First Oakland, then Pittsburgh, and now this? RIP
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Story and pic of suspect:

Lakewood, Washington (CNN) -- Residents of an east Seattle neighborhood were asked to stay indoors late Sunday as police searched the area for a man wanted for questioning in the fatal shooting of four police officers.
Authorities have not identified Maurice Clemmons as a suspect, but said they are looking for him as part of their investigation into the "ambush" Sunday morning at a coffee shop near Tacoma in Pierce County.
Authorities had been in the Leschi neighborhood since 8:40 p.m., blocking off streets and asking residents to lock their doors, said Seattle police spokesman Jeff Keppel.
Earlier Sunday night, word emerged that Clemmons, a convicted criminal with a long rap sheet, had a 95-year prison sentence commuted by then-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
Arkansas officials told the sheriff's office that Clemmons is the same person who received clemency from Huckabee in 2000, said sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.
Huckabee, a Republican presidential candidate in 2008, is considering a run for president in 2012.
"Should he be found responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state," Huckabee's office said in a statement Sunday night.
Clemmons, 37, of Pierce County has an "extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas, including aggravated robbery and theft," the sheriff's department said in a statement.
He also was recently charged in Pierce County in the assault of a police officer and rape of a child, according to the statement.
Troyer said Arkansas law enforcement officials had indicated that they were willing to forgo Clemmons' warrants in that state to avoid extraditing him if needed.
Clemmons was sentenced to 95 years in prison in 1989 for a host of charges, including robberies, burglaries, thefts and bringing a gun to school.
During a pretrial hearing, he hid a piece of metal in his sock, media reports at the time said. Before the start of another hearing, he grabbed a padlock off his holding cell and threw it at a court bailiff. He missed, and the lock hit his mother, who had come to bring him clothes.
Huckabee cited Clemmons' young age -- 17 at the time of his sentencing -- when he announced his decision to commute the sentence, according to newspaper articles.
Clemmons was paroled in August 2000, after serving 11 years of his sentence.
"It was not something I was pleased with at the time," said Larry Jegley, who prosecuted Clemmons for aggravated robbery and other charges in Pulaski County, Arkansas. "I would be most distressed if this is the same guy."
Huckabee's office said Clemmons' commutation was based on the recommendation of the parole board that determined that he met the conditions for early release.
"He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him," the statement said.
CNN could not immediately confirm the account. But the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper reported that a year after his release, Clemmons was arrested for aggravated robbery and theft.
He was taken back to prison for parole violation. But, said the paper, he was not served with the arrest warrants for the robbery and theft charges until he left prison three years later, in 2004.
His attorney argued the charges should be dismissed because too much time had passed by then. And prosecutors dropped the charges.
Clemmons is thought to have moved to Washington that year, and for a while ran a pressure-washing and landscaping business. The license for the business expired last month, according to the secretary of state, with which businesses have to register.
In recent months, Clemmons has displayed increasingly erratic behavior, the Seattle Times reported. In May, he punched a sheriff's deputy in the face, the paper said.
In another incident, he had relatives undress, telling them families need to be "naked for at least five minutes on Sunday," the newspaper said, citing a sheriff's department incident report. (OMGWTFBBQ!?)
Clemmons also believed he was Jesus and could fly, a deputy wrote, based on conversations with family members.
After serving several months in jail on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child, Clemmons was released on bond six days ago, according to the Seattle Times.
Sunday's shooting was the first for the Lakewood Police Department, which was created five years ago for the town of nearly 60,000. Until then, the Pierce County Sheriff's Office provided law-enforcement services there.
Authorities identified the victims as Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; Officer Ronald Owens, 37; Officer Tina Griswold, 40; and Officer Greg Richards, 42.
All four had been with the department since its inception. And all of them were parents.
The four officers were awaiting the start of their shift at a coffee shop in Parkland, a unincorporated community just south of Lakewood and about 10 miles from Tacoma.
The officers were in uniform and had marked patrol cars parked outside.
The shop on Steele Street is a popular hangout for law enforcement officers and is one of 22 Forza Coffee Co. locations in Washington.
"As a retired police officer, this senseless shooting hits extremely close to home to me," Brad Carpenter, chief executive officer of Forza, said in a statement on the company's Web site.
The attack occurred without warning, and investigators have not come up with possible motives.
The shooter walked past the officers to the counter as if to order coffee before he pulled the gun out of his coat and opened fire at 8:15 a.m., the sheriff's office said.
Two of the officers were "executed" as they sat at a table, said Troyer, the sheriff's spokesman.
Another was shot when he stood up and the fourth was shot after struggling with the gunman all the way out the door, Troyer said.
Two baristas and other customers inside the shop were unharmed. "Just the law enforcement officers were targeted," Troyer said, calling the shooting an ambush.
"What happened in there wasn't just a shooting," he told reporters. "After, we believe, some of the officers were shot, one of them managed to fight his way with the suspect -- fight his way, wrestle, fight all the way out the the doorway until he was shot and died of a gunshot wound.
"There's also evidence that a Lakewood officer fired some shots, and we hope he hit him," Troyer added.
Investigators were checking area hospitals to determine whether the gunman sought medical treatment. A $10,000 reward was offered for information leading to an arrest.
Some tips have come in, and investigators are following leads, one of which turned out to be "an unfortunate hoax," Troyer said.
A Tacoma man called "multiple people" claiming to be the gunman, though authorities determined the man was lying.
"We lost a lot of resources and man hours on that," said Troyer, adding the man was arrested and now faces obstruction charges
(Did you read the bold sentence in the story? He hit his mom with a padlock when he missed the bailiff who was the intended target. His mom came to bring him clothes and got a padlock to the face instead. This guy is a real winner!
Huckabee needs to be slapped for this one)

Lakewood, Washington (CNN) -- Residents of an east Seattle neighborhood were asked to stay indoors late Sunday as police searched the area for a man wanted for questioning in the fatal shooting of four police officers.
Authorities have not identified Maurice Clemmons as a suspect, but said they are looking for him as part of their investigation into the "ambush" Sunday morning at a coffee shop near Tacoma in Pierce County.
Authorities had been in the Leschi neighborhood since 8:40 p.m., blocking off streets and asking residents to lock their doors, said Seattle police spokesman Jeff Keppel.
Earlier Sunday night, word emerged that Clemmons, a convicted criminal with a long rap sheet, had a 95-year prison sentence commuted by then-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
Arkansas officials told the sheriff's office that Clemmons is the same person who received clemency from Huckabee in 2000, said sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.
Huckabee, a Republican presidential candidate in 2008, is considering a run for president in 2012.
"Should he be found responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state," Huckabee's office said in a statement Sunday night.
Clemmons, 37, of Pierce County has an "extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas, including aggravated robbery and theft," the sheriff's department said in a statement.
He also was recently charged in Pierce County in the assault of a police officer and rape of a child, according to the statement.
Troyer said Arkansas law enforcement officials had indicated that they were willing to forgo Clemmons' warrants in that state to avoid extraditing him if needed.
Clemmons was sentenced to 95 years in prison in 1989 for a host of charges, including robberies, burglaries, thefts and bringing a gun to school.
During a pretrial hearing, he hid a piece of metal in his sock, media reports at the time said. Before the start of another hearing, he grabbed a padlock off his holding cell and threw it at a court bailiff. He missed, and the lock hit his mother, who had come to bring him clothes.
Huckabee cited Clemmons' young age -- 17 at the time of his sentencing -- when he announced his decision to commute the sentence, according to newspaper articles.
Clemmons was paroled in August 2000, after serving 11 years of his sentence.
"It was not something I was pleased with at the time," said Larry Jegley, who prosecuted Clemmons for aggravated robbery and other charges in Pulaski County, Arkansas. "I would be most distressed if this is the same guy."
Huckabee's office said Clemmons' commutation was based on the recommendation of the parole board that determined that he met the conditions for early release.
"He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him," the statement said.
CNN could not immediately confirm the account. But the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper reported that a year after his release, Clemmons was arrested for aggravated robbery and theft.
He was taken back to prison for parole violation. But, said the paper, he was not served with the arrest warrants for the robbery and theft charges until he left prison three years later, in 2004.
His attorney argued the charges should be dismissed because too much time had passed by then. And prosecutors dropped the charges.
Clemmons is thought to have moved to Washington that year, and for a while ran a pressure-washing and landscaping business. The license for the business expired last month, according to the secretary of state, with which businesses have to register.
In recent months, Clemmons has displayed increasingly erratic behavior, the Seattle Times reported. In May, he punched a sheriff's deputy in the face, the paper said.
In another incident, he had relatives undress, telling them families need to be "naked for at least five minutes on Sunday," the newspaper said, citing a sheriff's department incident report. (OMGWTFBBQ!?)
Clemmons also believed he was Jesus and could fly, a deputy wrote, based on conversations with family members.
After serving several months in jail on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child, Clemmons was released on bond six days ago, according to the Seattle Times.
Sunday's shooting was the first for the Lakewood Police Department, which was created five years ago for the town of nearly 60,000. Until then, the Pierce County Sheriff's Office provided law-enforcement services there.
Authorities identified the victims as Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; Officer Ronald Owens, 37; Officer Tina Griswold, 40; and Officer Greg Richards, 42.
All four had been with the department since its inception. And all of them were parents.
The four officers were awaiting the start of their shift at a coffee shop in Parkland, a unincorporated community just south of Lakewood and about 10 miles from Tacoma.
The officers were in uniform and had marked patrol cars parked outside.
The shop on Steele Street is a popular hangout for law enforcement officers and is one of 22 Forza Coffee Co. locations in Washington.
"As a retired police officer, this senseless shooting hits extremely close to home to me," Brad Carpenter, chief executive officer of Forza, said in a statement on the company's Web site.
The attack occurred without warning, and investigators have not come up with possible motives.
The shooter walked past the officers to the counter as if to order coffee before he pulled the gun out of his coat and opened fire at 8:15 a.m., the sheriff's office said.
Two of the officers were "executed" as they sat at a table, said Troyer, the sheriff's spokesman.
Another was shot when he stood up and the fourth was shot after struggling with the gunman all the way out the door, Troyer said.
Two baristas and other customers inside the shop were unharmed. "Just the law enforcement officers were targeted," Troyer said, calling the shooting an ambush.
"What happened in there wasn't just a shooting," he told reporters. "After, we believe, some of the officers were shot, one of them managed to fight his way with the suspect -- fight his way, wrestle, fight all the way out the the doorway until he was shot and died of a gunshot wound.
"There's also evidence that a Lakewood officer fired some shots, and we hope he hit him," Troyer added.
Investigators were checking area hospitals to determine whether the gunman sought medical treatment. A $10,000 reward was offered for information leading to an arrest.
Some tips have come in, and investigators are following leads, one of which turned out to be "an unfortunate hoax," Troyer said.
A Tacoma man called "multiple people" claiming to be the gunman, though authorities determined the man was lying.
"We lost a lot of resources and man hours on that," said Troyer, adding the man was arrested and now faces obstruction charges
(Did you read the bold sentence in the story? He hit his mom with a padlock when he missed the bailiff who was the intended target. His mom came to bring him clothes and got a padlock to the face instead. This guy is a real winner!
Huckabee needs to be slapped for this one)
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Dude, lethal injection is faaaaaar too good for this piece of crap. They really need to bring back the electric chair, or perhaps death by stoning which is probably one of the worst ways to die because it takes so long... Actually, the worst way to die would be a Crucifixion... Takes a person days to die while they slowly cook in the sun... Yeah, I'm pretty sure that'd be one of the worst ways to die and he deserves that exact punishment.
Crucify this bastard!!!
Crucify this bastard!!!
Yea, he's going to get away easy, people like these need to rot in jails. Other folks need to die quickly =P. Imagine all the inmates at regular prisons dead, and the deathrow people doing time for their crimes. Oh how cheaper the prison system would be.
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to make money, the state should let citizens do a silent auction and bid for rights to kill. because everyone wants to kill someone at some point. now just do it LEGALLY and generate some revenue while at it.
i'm also for my 0 chance policy in prison. no warning shots. no pepper spray, or beatdowns. when a riot happens and you are involved...you are done for.
also...down for sanctioned gladiator battles between inmates....
i know i know...i'm immoral and this will never happen due to public outcry...
i'm also for my 0 chance policy in prison. no warning shots. no pepper spray, or beatdowns. when a riot happens and you are involved...you are done for.
also...down for sanctioned gladiator battles between inmates....
i know i know...i'm immoral and this will never happen due to public outcry...
What pisses me off the most, is they are going to waste tons of money on this pile of crap, between a trial and jail and all that.
Just catch him, put him on his knees right there in the street and execute his ***. He is GUILTY, people watched him do it, no need for a trial.
Just catch him, put him on his knees right there in the street and execute his ***. He is GUILTY, people watched him do it, no need for a trial.
to make money, the state should let citizens do a silent auction and bid for rights to kill. because everyone wants to kill someone at some point. now just do it LEGALLY and generate some revenue while at it.
i'm also for my 0 chance policy in prison. no warning shots. no pepper spray, or beatdowns. when a riot happens and you are involved...you are done for.
also...down for sanctioned gladiator battles between inmates....
i know i know...i'm immoral and this will never happen due to public outcry...
i'm also for my 0 chance policy in prison. no warning shots. no pepper spray, or beatdowns. when a riot happens and you are involved...you are done for.
also...down for sanctioned gladiator battles between inmates....
i know i know...i'm immoral and this will never happen due to public outcry...
Save the taxpayers money, and get the criminal scum off the street for good.
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Dude, lethal injection is faaaaaar too good for this piece of crap. They really need to bring back the electric chair, or perhaps death by stoning which is probably one of the worst ways to die because it takes so long... Actually, the worst way to die would be a Crucifixion... Takes a person days to die while they slowly cook in the sun... Yeah, I'm pretty sure that'd be one of the worst ways to die and he deserves that exact punishment.
Crucify this bastard!!!
Crucify this bastard!!!


