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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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my 08 328i brakes do brake better than my 00RS (much lighter in weight) with WRX front brakes.

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I think there is a misconception about the number of pots on a brake and the braking power. The only advantages of having a 6 pot brakes is that it helps distribute the power evenly along the brake pad which helps even the wear, and that it plays better in heat. Brakes that have a larger diameter rotors or have more track oriented pads would have no problem out stopping these guys even with less pot.
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Awesome, no one said everyone had to agree with me. I personally do not like floating calipers, and I personally feel that sort of gear has no place on a car of the caliber of what BMW's try to be. Yes, their brakes have been at least adequate in most of the BMW's that I have driven. My last track car had 6pot Tar.Ox calipers and 14" rotors - I am nutty about brakes.

Also, one of the major bones picked on the new M3 from Automobile mag was the crappy brakes....................

My R32 has floating calipers and those brakes with stock pads will put my face through the windshield. I don't mind floating calipers on my Golf. Anyway I forgot that my 2002 had 2 piston front calipers...

I am confused by this because I watched a video that showed the BMW M3 stopping from 60 - 0 in 100ft which they said was the best they had ever seen.

To me that is not bad brakes.
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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In terms of stopping distances, don't forget about the tires...

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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Awesome, no one said everyone had to agree with me. I personally do not like floating calipers, and I personally feel that sort of gear has no place on a car of the caliber of what BMW's try to be. Yes, their brakes have been at least adequate in most of the BMW's that I have driven. My last track car had 6pot Tar.Ox calipers and 14" rotors - I am nutty about brakes.

Also, one of the major bones picked on the new M3 from Automobile mag was the crappy brakes....................

My R32 has floating calipers and those brakes with stock pads will put my face through the windshield. I don't mind floating calipers on my Golf. Anyway I forgot that my 2002 had 2 piston front calipers...
The E90/92 M3 has only 2 pots in the front, and will out break a 135 with your alleged "superior" brakes all day long, even at the track.

I dont know what automobile magazine was smoking, but the M3 brakes are far superior.
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dong Homez
This car is kind of scary to me. I've seen alot of 325 and 328 drivers thinking they're Michael Schumacher. Driving like complete jackasses just because they're cool and in an entry level BMW. The 135 will now allow these drivers to afford a really powerful car. That attitude plus a twin turbo inline six is a recipe for disaster.
I agree with this. They are so easy to drive at the limit (older slower ones).....now that ppl have some power bad stuff will happen.
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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I agree with this. They are so easy to drive at the limit (older slower ones).....now that ppl have some power bad stuff will happen.
Yah, its not like anything like that happened when the STi and EVO came out.
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Yah, its not like anything like that happened when the STi and EVO came out.
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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I like the 135, but not at that price :\
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by VRT Gump
I am confused by this because I watched a video that showed the BMW M3 stopping from 60 - 0 in 100ft which they said was the best they had ever seen.

To me that is not bad brakes.
Hey, I didn't write the article.
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
The E90/92 M3 has only 2 pots in the front, and will out break a 135 with your alleged "superior" brakes all day long, even at the track.

I dont know what automobile magazine was smoking, but the M3 brakes are far superior.
Chillax, pal. Have you driven the new M3? If not, please don't give me your impression of the brakes. Also - please note that there is nothing you can do with this little text window that will make me prefer floating calipers over proper calipers. That should be just as fine with you as it is with me.

Is it really that big of a deal that I mentioned that I like the fact that they finally fitted non-floating calipers? Does that need to inspire an argument regarding every car that stops well with floating calipers?
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
The E90/92 M3 has only 2 pots in the front, and will out break a 135 with your alleged "superior" brakes all day long, even at the track.

I dont know what automobile magazine was smoking, but the M3 brakes are far superior.
It wasn't just Automobile magazine. Autocar.co.uk did a comparison of the new M3 vs. 911 GT3 vs. Nissan GTR a coupla months ago. Each car did one out-lap and then a timed flyer lap. During the M3's timed lap, the driver blew through the brakes and went off track (and it was his personal car, so I presume little, if any, bias here). 2 laps = brake failure?

Watch it for yourself (brake failure at 5:40).
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Chillax, pal. Have you driven the new M3? If not, please don't give me your impression of the brakes. Also - please note that there is nothing you can do with this little text window that will make me prefer floating calipers over proper calipers. That should be just as fine with you as it is with me.

Is it really that big of a deal that I mentioned that I like the fact that they finally fitted non-floating calipers? Does that need to inspire an argument regarding every car that stops well with floating calipers?
I have no problem with your preference, but to imply that BMW's had bad brakes before the 135 becuase they were floating calipers is just ignorant. And yes, I have driven an M3.
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shagginwagon
It wasn't just Automobile magazine. Autocar.co.uk did a comparison of the new M3 vs. 911 GT3 vs. Nissan GTR a coupla months ago. Each car did one out-lap and then a timed flyer lap. During the M3's timed lap, the driver blew through the brakes and went off track (and it was his personal car, so I presume little, if any, bias here). 2 laps = brake failure?

Watch it for yourself (brake failure at 5:40).
How about instead of comparing it to two cars that are both going to be in the 100K neighrborhood, lets compare it to other cars with a similar price tag.
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
How about instead of comparing it to two cars that are both going to be in the 100K neighrborhood, lets compare it to other cars with a similar price tag.
Ummm, there was no comparison going on here. The M3 ran solo for 2 laps and the brakes went out. It was alone on the track. No head-to-head, chasing or racing happened if you watch the video. The fact that this was part of a comparison test is irrelevant.



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