would is be safe to run cobb's vf30/vf34 map with a port and polished vf30/34?

I wouldn't.

Nope, don't do anything that isn't specifically tuned for.

i talked to Jerry at Deadbolt about it, because I am thinking of sending mine VF34 there, he said he has several customers who are running this without problems. Why would something like P&P cause problems isnt it just for better air flow?

Why would you post if you didn't want an opinion?

:confused: It's not the same poster dude.

:confused: It's not the same poster dude.
My bad.
i talked to Jerry at Deadbolt about it, because I am thinking of sending mine VF34there, he said he has several customers who are running this without problems. Why would something like P&P cause problems isnt it just for better air flow?
I still wouldn'nt use the map, you're way better off getting a custom one made for he same price.The cobb maps are generic and made for a specific car with a specific set of modifications.

I talked to someone at Cobb it was all explained.

"IF" there were tuners down here in hawaii, i would do a custom tune...unfortunately, there is no AWD dyno...next best thing is an off the shelf map

How about upgrading to Street Tuner, installing a wideband and doing some road tuning, it's not as good as a dyno tune, but much better than running a general map.

Thats my plan to get the Street Tuner, the problem for me right now is $400 upgrage fee, but got to pay to play. Although I am thinking of getting some other EM other then Cobb's stuff

it's not as good as a dyno tune, but much better than running a general map.

Why do you say that?

Why do you say that?
My guess is because joe schmo will be tuning it vs. someone who knows what they are doing.
I wouldn't trust myself to do my own tuning. But that's just me.:confused:
"IF" there were tuners down here in hawaii, i would do a custom tune...unfortunately, there is no AWD dyno...next best thing is an off the shelf map
You guys really need a dyno.

Why do you say that?


What he said:) I was meaning opposed to something like an Ecutek tune through Gruppe-S or Xede tune through Vishnu. A good tune with someone who is very familiar with the car and the software they are using versus someone like me trying to tune my own, even though I know what I'm doing relatively well, I doubt a tune done by me would be as safe or have as much power as a tune from the Moike :D

Yeah... pro dyno tune>pro off-the-shelf map>self-tune. I was wonderign why you suggested the AP over the standard maps. There's nothing unsafe about mail order reflashes if they come from a reputable tuner.

If you can find a tune that has the exact same mods as you it should be golden, but I still think a rough map then some road tuning he'd be better off since a pro tune can't be had in his area, and by "but much better than running a general map" in my first post I meant general AP map, not an off the shelfer. I've yet to see a P&P job that's identical, so there's no telling how it will be, and the cobb maps are kinda flakey to begin with so I'd be farting diamonds running a ported and polished VF3X on the regular Cobb VF3X map.

Personally I'd trust a road tune better than an off the shelf map, but I road tuned my Turbo Prelude with AEM EMS by myself, so maybe I'm a bit more comfortable than the average person. But I dont' trust myself that much because as soon as I come back from a trip to SE asia I'll be dropping off the wagon to let gruppe take a whack at the street tuner.

My guess is because joe schmo will be tuning it vs. someone who knows what they are doing.
I wouldn't trust myself to do my own tuning. But that's just me.:confused:

You guys really need a dyno.


yes we do...unfortunately, shops down here think there won't be enough demand for an awd dyno...they say it'll be too expensive to have without the demand for it