oaky what are the chances of being able to build a 22B? i understand fully that only 400 of them were hand built. and 2 of those 400 are owned by subaru for display purposes.....i know this much....

its a 290 hp ej22
its turbo'd with a functional hood scoop to feed into the top mount intercooler?

i dunno waht kind of turbo it used nor the intercooler type....

i was wondering waht things could i do to create a replica 22B here in the states.....

at least make it close to and put out as much power.....

thanks again!!!!

--mastermind--

If you give me $50,000 in cash I could do it for you :D

lol no no....seriously....

wat kind of ej22 block does the 22B have?

waht size/type of turbo does it have........

what kinda intercooler? (i know its topmount)

is that a prodrive kit all around? and where could i get fenders and panels to make it jsut as wide? (the 22B was 80mm wider)

well these are my questions.....if anyone could please answer them it would be great! thanks alot!

I heard its pretty hard to get the authentic 22B parts such as the motor and so on... Everything is registered in Japan so they either know the owner or know the Vin numbers of the car and you need either one of those 2 to get the parts. If you want a Replica kit I know Aerosim is in the works of making a 22b widebody kit. I also heard those BBS rims are very rare and a pretty penny to find... Shall we go on?

I think it would be best to get the kit, throw on some other EJ2?T, there are better engines. Do what you can with the car and be happy

well the 22b was pretty much a gc8(gm6, whatever you wana call it) with more power. But even though its running like 290+hp...the car is still rather outdated. The block is basicly an ej22t without the oil squirters. And surprizingly enough, its heads are outflowed by the phase 2 dohc and the later sohc as well. As far as the intercooler goes I think its the same one as the JDM sti, not possitive though.

I'm not too up to date on body kits but I know that there are replica parts floating around all over the place.

BTW, what car are you trying to convert?

keep in mind that the 22b was a fully closed deck, and from what i know, you can only purchase 22b engine parts directly from subaru and you have to be registered to get the parts.

Your best bet is just trying to make it look physically like a 22b with a replica body kit, replica wheels and such, and put a ej22t block in there with more modern heads and basically a better more custom setup for the rest of the drivetrain. The brakes you can get if you try hard enough, the suspension is impossible to find, any authentic 22b part like folks have stated would basically not be an option.

There has been a 22b replica body kit that has been in the works for awhile here in the states if you want to take a look: http://www.aerosim-research.com/subaru_wide.html

I have been blessed with the privledge of seeing that kit up close. I can't wait for Steve and the rest of the Aerosim staff to get that car done.

well its a 98 2 door L its a project car someone is leaving me to modify....he wants a 22b.....well its got a ej22...i found the turbos if anyone is interested.....umm the turbo found on the 22B is the IHI VF 23......

waht would i have to do to get a turbo on it....

the 22B has a 8-1 compression ratio....so should i get 8-1 pistons.....(those were molybentinum....)

and yes ill make sure ill contact those guys with that kit.....ill make sure i put taht on the car....

now waht about all that open deck and closed deck stuff and oil squirting stuff??

Thanks alot everyone!!! please respond if u see this

You need the legacy turbo EJ22T shortblock to get the closed deck block with oil squirters.

Your best bet is just trying to make it look physically like a 22b with a replica body kit, replica wheels and such, and put a ej22t block in there with more modern heads and basically a better more custom setup for the rest of the drivetrain. The brakes you can get if you try hard enough, the suspension is impossible to find, any authentic 22b part like folks have stated would basically not be an option.

There has been a 22b replica body kit that has been in the works for awhile here in the states if you want to take a look: http://www.aerosim-research.com/subaru_wide.html

when the heck is this thing gonna be done? Ive been following its progress for a while and it seems like it will never end.

well its a 98 2 door L its a project car someone is leaving me to modify....he wants a 22b.....well its got a ej22...i found the turbos if anyone is interested.....umm the turbo found on the 22B is the IHI VF 23......

waht would i have to do to get a turbo on it....

the 22B has a 8-1 compression ratio....so should i get 8-1 pistons.....(those were molybentinum....)

and yes ill make sure ill contact those guys with that kit.....ill make sure i put taht on the car....

now waht about all that open deck and closed deck stuff and oil squirting stuff??

Thanks alot everyone!!! please respond if u see this

Serious question: Do you know the difference between open and closed deck and what oil squirters are?

Open/Semi/Closed Deck engine? (I use this description I stole off TFW from Nabisco because its the best description I have found thus far):
Ok...

An open deck (stock[wrx EJ20]) engine has almost no material in between the piston sleeves and the outer engine block. (look at where the pistons go in the following engine block pics, look at the ammoutn of open space in between the sleeves and the outer wall in all 3 pics..)


Open deck, (stock) like I said, has almost nothing for support in between the piston sleeves and the outer block wall.
Like so:
http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/images/wrx_block_stage1.jpg

A semi-closed deck has shims added to it to add rigidity to the piston sleeves.

Like so:
http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/images/wrx_block_stage2.jpg

and a closed deck is nearly solid metal around the piston rings. No open space at all.

Like so:
http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/images/turbo_block_stage3.jpg

The reason behind all of this is pressure and boost tollereance within the engine. You can pump more pressure (PSI) into a smi-closed or closed deck engine than into an open deck engine without blowing it up since there is much less expansion going on and thus making it much, much stonger. The open deck only has a thin wall of a piston sleeve then the open space, a closed deck is uber reinforced and able to handle excessive boost.

The trade of is obvious.. open deck = light. Closed deck= very very heavy...

(pics from cobbtuning.com)

Oil squirters?
I don't know too much on them but basically they are supposed to squirt oil on the underside of pistons. The advantage of doing this is basically to lower chances of detonation giving you oppurtunity to raise boost. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Now if you are wanting an engine that is closed deck with oil squirters you might just want to look for a real subaru turbo engine that has this already built in. You can forget the whole open/closed deck but should be able to add oil squirters to the motor you have in your possesion now if doesn't have them already. The costs of turboing are usually much more then when someone first perceives them to be. Engine swaps IMO are the way to go, an engine designed to accept turbos and can upgrade turbos. Also, you won't to worry about compression or frequent problems with the motor. It will be much better than trying to turbo a non turbo EJ22. If you throw everything out on the table, a turbo EJ2?t IMO will Be much better than the idea of just simply using the 2.2L only because it has the same displacement as the 22B. Nobodys even going to be able to tell how much displacement the engine has by looking at it anyways. And the 22B motor is not the same as the 2.2L that is found in our USDM models... so displacement will be the same but there will a whole different world of differences between the motors.

Hope that helps... Good luck in constructing one of my many wet dreams :D

when the heck is this thing gonna be done? Ive been following its progress for a while and it seems like it will never end.

Hopefully soon, it used to be just Steve developing this kit but he actually now has a guy he is paying good money to strictly work on the kit with him.

Keep in mind that the 22b is seam welded from the factory, if you want to make an accurate replica... ouchie, that's gonna cost!

when the heck is this thing gonna be done? Ive been following its progress for a while and it seems like it will never end.
Steve says it will be debuting at SEMA this year... Cross your fingers

The Engine:
Lesse here there is quite a bit to say about just the engine so lets get started.

Its a bored out 2.0L motor producing the 2.2L (get a closed deck for this)

Stroke = 75.0 mm / 2.95 in VS stock 75mm
Bore = 96.9 mm / 3.81 in VS stock 92mm
Redline = 7300rpm

Turbo = IHI VF23 with bearing

Probably has custom heads too so you should probably just get a race engine ;) god knows what that costs lol.

It has forged internals so the pistons and rods are light and strong allowing fast redline.

The Body:
It was a WRX RA shell (2 door) with small body modifications
Adjustable spoiler

Drivetrain:
STI IV type R tranny
adjustable center diff.

Suspention:
Made by Bilstein but i can't find the swaybar mm's or anything else atm

Brakes:
292mm front rotor
4pot front brakes
2pot rear brakes
(brembo?)

Wheels:
BBS 17x8.5”

hmm well then....so if i had to get this guy waht he wants......id get

1. ej22t from legacy (Closed Deck)
2. Forged pistons Condrods and Piston rings...( JE???)
3. Titainum valve springs and retainers?
4.TMIC spearco-sti? ( could it handle 17 psi???)
5. some sort of exhuast? ( 3" piping like a apexi N1 or GT spec?)
6. Tien RA suspention
7. Koyo radiator or 04' STI
8. Sparco or momo seats??? ( waht was in the 22B???)
9. Apexi SAFC and AVC-R
10. rediculously expensive and sexy 22B bodyKit

Not to mention Fuel upgrades and ignition and timing modifactions (dyno time) there is no way this car will ever NOT have down time untill its completely finished.....

i know there are other things like Silicon vac hoses and the intake ( what would you recomend for a ej22t from a legacy? )

well anything else i left out for the "conversion" please let me know i kinda rushed through it....

thanks again everyone this fourm is TONS of help!!!

Does your "friend" really want a 22b, or does he want a car that's faster and better handling? It's not hard to build a WRX to outperform a 22b, but it is very hard to faithfully reproduce one.

If you really wanted to replicate a 22b, you'd have to stick to STi and Prodrive parts all the way. You could get away with a few other things, like something from Bilstein for the suspension, but you'd want to stick to factory parts as much as possible. If so, your shopping list would look like this:

*Impreza coupe body. Strip it, prime it, and paint it to match after doing the body work.

*Bore out an EJ20G to 2.2 liters. THAT is the 22b motor, not the EJ22 from a turbo legacy. The internals are forged, so don't mess with them if you're really trying to build a 22b. Except for the overbore pistons of course, and you can probably find those fresh from Subaru somewhere overseas.

*We don't really know which heads were on it, or if they were specific to the 22b, so just use some v3-4 heads from an STi and you'd be fine. Most of the motor was standard STi, except for ECU, VF23, the 22b top mount, and maybe the radiator. As long as everything you use came from an STi nobody would hassle you too much over not being "authentic." The important things (turbo, ECU, intercooler, etc) can be found in overseas auctions because a lot of 22bs have been modified.

*All STi exhausts are pretty similar. If you threw any aftermarket turboback on the car most people would find that reasonable, since so many of them have been modified.

*Standard STi radiator is fine, unless you can find a takeoff.

*The best you could do to replicate the suspension is Prodrive's World Rally Sport for the GC/GM chassis. Coilovers wouldn't be very close to OE.

*Yeah, good luck finding 22b seats for sale. Might as well go with whatever seems appropriate.

*SAFC/AVC-R? Why? EcuTek can reflash a 22b.

*Well, no flares, no 22b of course.

Honestly, it would be a hell of a lot easier to VIN-swap an imported 22b than it would be to build one from scratch on a LHD chassis. Cheaper too.

Vin Swap? what u mean..like get the VIN number from a 22B??? well i guess it would be best to build a ej22t build taht up...lets look at making 350 hp adn i would like to use a top mount intercooler unless the effeciantcy .....i have an impreza L i plan on making it look like a 22B i wont make it a "replica" you right it doesnt sound worth the money....so

from the top...

wahts the best motor to put in the impreza L?
i want a turbo and i want 350 hp
if i can use a top mount intercooler taht would be cool as well.....
now handling wise........tien RA's are the way to go???

sorry to be soo quesion happy......
thanks alot for everything...

Does a wrx 2.0L have oil squirters???
I myself have been thinking about a 2.2L turbo block from a legacy, but I was wanting to use the same parts as the new 2.0L (heads, cams, intake manifold, etc...). Mainly so I could have easy access to aftermarket upgrades as well as replacement parts like coils
Any ideas on this???

so sould u use ej20heads on an ej22??? is taht how it works?

and parts seem kinda hard to find sometimes anyone who has really good sites for the GC8 and GM6 (ej22t and ej20t ) would be awsome!

Ive heard of the 2.0 heads working but the SOHC 2.5 heads are better.

The Engine:
Lesse here there is quite a bit to say about just the engine so lets get started.

Its a bored out 2.0L motor producing the 2.2L (get a closed deck for this)

Stroke = 75.0 mm / 2.95 in VS stock 75mm
Bore = 96.9 mm / 3.81 in VS stock 92mm
Redline = 7300rpm

Turbo = IHI VF23 with bearing

Probably has custom heads too so you should probably just get a race engine ;) god knows what that costs lol.

It has forged internals so the pistons and rods are light and strong allowing fast redline.

The Body:
It was a WRX RA shell (2 door) with small body modifications
Adjustable spoiler

Drivetrain:
STI IV type R tranny
adjustable center diff.

Suspention:
Made by Bilstein but i can't find the swaybar mm's or anything else atm

Brakes:
292mm front rotor
4pot front brakes
2pot rear brakes
(brembo?)

Wheels:
BBS 17x8.5”


The breaks were RED Subaru 4 pots now if brembo made them it was not advertised!!!

The breaks were RED Subaru 4 pots now if brembo made them it was not advertised!!!

They aren't Brembos, I have a set for my RS when I finish my 6 speed conversion.

Specifications
Dimensions 4365 x 1770 x 1390mm
Tread Front / Rear 1480 / 1500mm
Vehicle Weight 1270kg
Engine 2.2 litre Boxer Master-4 DOHC Turbo
Displacement 2212cc
Bore x Stroke 96.9mm x 75.0 mm
Compression Ratio 8.0 to one
Cylinder Block Aluminium Alloy Closed Deck
Cylinder Head Aluminium alloy, dohc per bank,
4 valves per cyl, turbocharger, metal gasket,
Inner shim valve lifters
Pistons Molybdenum coating low-friction pistons
Intercooling Intercooler auto water-spray system.
Cooling STI Radiator
Fuel and ignition Multipoint fuel injection
and ignition
Max Power 276 bhp @ 6000rpm (280PS)
Max Torque 265lb ft @ 3200rpm (37kg-m)
Transmission 5-spd manual, four-wheel-drive, sintered twin clutch, shot peened gears.
Rear viscous LSD (2-way 4-pinion)
Driver controlled center differential
Gear Ratios 1st 3.083
2nd 2.062
3rd 1.545
4th 1.152
5th 0.825
Reverse 3.416
Final Drive 4.444
Super-quick shift linkage
Suspension Bilstein Strut and Eibach coil springs Front carbon strut tower bar Aluminium front lower arms
Steering Super Quick Power Steering Gear Box(13:1) with power steering fluid cooler
Brakes Vented discs front and discs rear
Wheels 17x8.5JJ BBS Alloy Wheels & Carbon Centre Caps
Tyres 235/40 ZR17 Pirelli P Zero
Body WR car-type front grill and bumper
WR car-type STi foglight cover
WR car-type body coloured side skirts
WR car-type rear bumper
WR car-type adjustable rear wing with brake light at boot level.
Aluminium Front Bonnet.
Cherry Red Front Grille Emblem (6 stars)
Front & Rear Sticker (22B-STi)
Coloured coded side under skirt, rear spoiler, bumper and front spoiler
Interior Brushed aluminium instrument panel cover
Auto air-conditioner
Brushed aluminium front console
Steering Wheel Nardi shock absorbent leather (without Air Bag)
Seats Original design Suede (Artificial) Front Bucket Seat & Rear Seat
Serial Plate Serial Number Plate<000/400>

Subaru Impreza 22B STi Type R
"The result is a sports coupe that seeks to deliver the highest level of performance for road use"
- STi President Mr Yamada.
Background
The first Subaru Impreza was revealed by Fuji Heavy Industries (FHI) at the November 1992 Tokyo Motorshow, as a car with a definite motor-sport orientation towards the World Rally Championship (WRC) circuit, up against the likes of Ford Escort, Mitsubishi Lancer and Toyota Celica. The previous steed up until this date had been the much larger Legacy.
WRC success came in 1995 when an Impreza driven by Colin McRae won both the Driver's Championship and along with Carlos Sainz, the Manufacturer's championship. The Manufacturer's championship was again won in 1996 and also 1997 which saw a new Impreza built in the UK by Prodrive to the newly introduced World Rally Car formula.
To celebrate the 40th anniversary of Subaru, a limited run road going WRCar was announced to the unsuspecting world at the 1997 Tokyo Motor Show. It would be based on the newly released Version 4 Type R Coupe but would have a larger engine with more torque and the bodywork would be highly modified to give it the appearance of the current WRC rally cars of then current drivers, Colin McRae and Pierro Liatti.
The car itself had started some months before as an in house project for Prodrive as a basis of a super Impreza for the road. This was shown to Fuji officials as a road going concept, but due to lack of resource or maybe a wish to bring the project in house it was wholly taken over by STi for manufacture in Japan.
Exact details to the public remained sketchy until nearer the March 1998 release date with rumours of sequential gear boxes, twin turbos and a 2.5 litre engine circulating the internet news groups and mailing lists. By February it had been established that a 2.2 litre engine was to be used and the name had now changed from WRCar to 22B. Magazine articles started to appear with rumours of 350 bhp in place of the Japanese gentlemans agreement of 278bhp.
It has been said that when the launch did happen, the allocation of 400 cars sold out within 30 minutes, with over 6000 deposits being taken, and cars were then going for speculative amounts. Contradictory to this, others have said that cars were sitting in showrooms unsold after an initial rush. Priced at 5 million Yen, they were approximately two thirds more expensive than the WRX STi type R version 4 (3 million Yen) they were based upon. At the time this equated to around £23,500 which was a lot less than the £40-50,000 being asked by UK importers for the privilege of owning one! Subaru Japan awarded Colin McRae and Nicky Grist one each for their achievements in the World Rally Championship.
A total of 425 cars were produced, and although only 399 were officially built for Japans domestic market another 26 were assembled for overseas distributors. Colin McRae and his co-drive Nicky Grist received a car each and these were both numbered 000/400. There is also a third car with 000/400 which is the development car owned by David Lapworth, Technical Director at Prodrive. Unlucky number 13 was thought not to have been produced but it has now been confirmed this 22B exists as a demonstrator for Subaru USA. Of the "missing" 22, it is known that five off 22B have been imported to Australia as show or competition vehicles, whilst the United Kingdom was awarded 16 off cars to be rebadged 22B-UK.
Production process
The 22B is a limited edition Impreza based upon the Japanese domestic WRX STi Type R version 4 Coupe. During its transformation the bodyshell, parts and engine are removed from the standard Impreza production line no less than 6 times, and 3 different facilities used for modification.
1. The car starts off as a donor shell from an Impreza WRX STi type R version 4 Coupe.
2. STi then modifies the front and rear wheel arches by cutting away the existing ones and rewelding and extending them so that the body is some 80mm wider.
3. The body is then seam welded and repainted by a specialist (as the body is too wide and does not fit through the normal painting production line at Subaru)
4. STi takes the engine and bores out the normal 2 litre lump to 2.2 litres. This will allow more torque at lower revs.
5. The clutch plate and disk are replaced with an STI ceramic/metal twin plate competition clutch with dumpers, for better release action.
6. The suspension is replaced with a special Bilstein and Eibach set, (much firmer than the normal one), and the track is widened to suit the wide body.
7. WRC styling is added by the addition of a huge adjustable rear wing, a front bumper that looks like it has bene lifted strainght from the WRC, and different engine bay bonnet vents again copying the WRC. These modifications produce a replica to the WRC car.
8. Finally the car is fitted with a unique blue interior and aluminium alloy BBS wheels.

forgot the non-glare dash...
great info, good job

4. STi takes the engine and bores out the normal 2 litre lump to 2.2 litres. This will allow more torque at lower revs.


Are you sure about this? Why would they use an open block? Im pretty sure they used the EJ22T, a fully closed deck that can take much more, subarus best block they ever made!

It's not an open deck, it's the semi-closed EJ207 block which is quite strong.

Either that or it's the fully closed deck EJ20G.

4. STi takes the engine and bores out the normal 2 liter lump to 2.2 litres. This will allow more torque at lower revs.


when STi has the normal 2 liter lump they bore, sleve, weld into closed deck,
faced block halves, then welded halves together.

the EJ2.2L turbo motor is the best one subaru ever made thats why its in my 2000 RS w/98rs DOHC heads :) and garett T-4 pumping 32psi of boost.

Are u running 32psi all the time daily driven? I heard more than 25 it will bend a rod. How much HP do u have at 32? Did u get the block out of a legacy? If so was it the 91? Why did u choose the 98 RS DOHC over the RS SOHC?

hey man,for the wide body tr this http://www.takakaira.com/aerokits/aerokitindex.asp?sideon=sidemenu.asp?cat=7 go to DO-LUCK or BURN-UP

Are u running 32psi all the time daily driven? I heard more than 25 it will bend a rod. How much HP do u have at 32? Did u get the block out of a legacy? If so was it the 91? Why did u choose the 98 RS DOHC over the RS SOHC?

i did use the legacy turbo block not sure what year it is i think they are the same from 91-94 the strong ones have factory rear LSD on the car.. if you find one in the junk yard you are going to rebuild check the rear end before you buy it take the thing apart it find out its the wrong one.

i choose 98 DOHC over the 00 SOHC because when you port the DOHC heads the ex port is strighter after the port job then the SOHC heads.. the DOHC has beter flow also the valves are direct hit no rocker roller.. so the red line can be a little higher.

by no means i would ever do anything like this to a car again or tell anyone its easy to do it took me a year and tons of fab work to get to where it wouldnt blow up. the hardest thing was the intake track.. the heads bolt on just fine but the patern is off by 2" and the 98 has sencers that the 2000 dosnt.. so i had to cut apart 3 intakes to make one that would work ... it runs 2 injectors per intake run. one water injector. a GM MAP.. AEM plug and play that turns on the second set of injectors when boost is over 18psi
i dont know what the HP is but my guess is around 500+ from the 11.98 1/4mi @ 132MPH and 2485LBS of car weight
my car is a driver and has current reg. but not daily driven i race scca solo2 in e-mod class

forgot the non-glare dash...
great info, good job

thanks Impreza 2.5 WRS

I asked about the 91 block specifically because I was told that one came stock with the factory oil cooler (which not even the 22B had¿). Could you explain in further detail about the rear end ive never heard of someone dealing with the wrong one or anything. I know you can still use the stock RS tranny as long as your very nice and thats only for a limited amount of time. What tranny did u put it? Ive heard of people using this block with 25psi as a dailey driver, and basically my goal with this is No.1 to build a monster and No.2 To keep this as my daily driver because i fricken love this car. Is there a difference betweent the 99 SOHC and the 00? I know the 99 run on a MAF like the 98 even though the 98 is a bit better, but cost wise I would like to keep my heads unless it makes that much of a difference. What about the new STi, how do the heads on that compare to mine and yours. I don't know a lot about cars but know some of the basics ive never had any schooling but plan on teaching myself along with a good buddy of mine who is a another subaru fanatic. So about the rear end are you talking about the rear differentials and axels? Dont i already have an LSD in the rear? And what did u mean of car height?

here you go Mastermind its only $47,000 for a real 22b for sale Orlando FL.
http://www.evolutionimports.net/usedcars.php

the 22b has a air to oil cooler in the bumper.. all the legacy turbos have a little water to oil cooler just above the oil filter (the same cooler used on the wrx water to oil) ..... the rear end on legacy turbo with LSD the block is closed deck.... the rear end on legacy turbo with open rear end is semi closed deck all legacy turbo have oil squarters under the piston to cool the flash point of the gas....why i was telling you to check the rear end before you buy the wrong motor is when you take it apart after you bought it and find out you got the semi closed deck and the junk yard wont take it back:( ...... i was told by people i could use the stock rs tranny but they were wrong only 4 of the 8 bolts match up and only one of the starter bolts match... i had to weld lugs on the 2.2L block and drill them and tap to match my rs tranny big f-n bunch of extra work..... my tranny is stock case with full dog set gears, quaife LSD, and STI center coupling, syms short shifter. i have read and heard that big boost kills third gear, and (first if you drag race with sticky tires) with stock tranny... as far as dailey drivers and big boost you need a very good computer to run the thing safe and the more boost the more fuel....25 psi is not a lot of boost. for some people it is cuz they are all running 12-15 psi in stock wrx's but you need good controls and it will be fine....i ported my heads so i was looking for after the port job what would work beter... and the DOHC head ex port is strighter after the port job.... the new 2.5 STi heads have a kinds of V-tec to them that makes them much beter than not being able to adjust the valve timming... the 2.5rs have rear LSD.... height = weight 2485lbs curb weight with gas and oil no driver the class i race in is not less than 2400lbs with gas and oil for AWD cars

my advice if anyone reads this...., to make a 2.2 legacy turbo closed deck motor work in a 2.5rs with rs heads and stock tranny will take a lot of time and money and custom fab work that no local welder will do for any amount of money, and you (and me) would have been beter off buying a JDM import Sti V5 or V6 and started there.... the money i have in upgrades to my little rs car, i could have bought ( 2 ) 2004 STI,s and toss my rs in the trash

hope this helps you

What tranny would you recommend? Also do you think the EJ22T is the way to go? A buddy of mine is going on his 5th subaru, now getting an RS, all Legacy's before. We will pretty much be doing this project together, i brought the EJ22T idea to him after seeing Wedge's website from rs25 ( http://users.adelphia.net/~wedge138/ ) Basically I want a monster, an extremely hardcore daily driver and I want to make sure im going in the right direction. As far as getting a 22B ide love one, but 50g's and having to bother with converting it to the left side hopefully later down the line ha ha. You've been very helpful, im sure ill be researching this project for another year before I can get my feet wet. Thanks!!

gongeuzler , rellispec @ http://www.rallispec.com/ has a very good complete High strength gearset for extreme street and competition Subarus, Capable of reliably handling power outputs in excess of 500hp

I know this is a dead thread but here is a 22B for sale ;)

http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=27;t=001034;p=1#000 006

...Honestly, it would be a hell of a lot easier to VIN-swap an imported 22b than it would be to build one from scratch on a LHD chassis. Cheaper too.

Ok, so i can import a car and swap the vin from a crushed impreza in the US, is this legal??? will people(cops) ask why I am on the wrong side of the car, then when i tell them that its a kit i bought they laugh and tell the government and they crush my car, also do i import it as a race car, and then swap all the vins to US ones. can i do this to any car that is similar??? according to the nhtsa, similar cars can be imported? can i get a letter from subaru of america that states "the car is similar to the us model so i can have it". also about the whole skyline thing, motorex is done???? rbmotoring whats goin on with that, and evolution in orlando theyre sketchy. PS i have the crash test data from motorex if anyone wants it. theres pictures too... also: MOTOREX LIED they never crashtested a GTR they crashtested GTS type M's bc theyre cheaper.

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Sincerely, Dave

well it's highly illegal, but they would have a hard time proving you did anything wrong. Since you could take all the parts off a 22b and put them onto a USDM impreza coupe and get essentially the same car. but why swap all the parts when you could just switch vins numbers? not to mention the seem welded chassis. As for the right hand drive, they are illegal to import except the skyline or cars 25 years or older. but they don't say anything about converting a car already in the US. i think you could get by with saying you baught the car off a postal worker.

Speaking of skylines i think the key there is to get one from Canada. Canada has the same laws as we do but instead of 25 years or older, they can import anything as long as its 15 years or older. So 1989 and 1990 R32 GTRs probably can be snuck down. They wouldn't pay much attention since people buy cars from Canada all the time.

Right hand drive is not illegal actually. It's the lack of crash testing and emissions requirements that keep foreign market cars out.

Right hand drive is not illegal actually. It's the lack of crash testing and emissions requirements that keep foreign market cars out.

If RHD was illegal, the Postman would be headed to jail!

:-)

Just for the sake of mod and parts availablility I would recommend at least the 2.0 liter. You can pull a solid 300-350 horse out of the 2.0 and if you decided it wasn't enough later on, you could grab a 2.5 L STi shortblock and bolt it on to the heads, exhaust, transmission, etc. without any headaches. If you insist on the 2.2, make sure you use one that was already meant for boost. You would be amazed at the differences between a turbo and a non-turbo block. The turbo block will usually have twice as much webbing cast into the block, and it'll be way thicker in stress prone areas. If it is and open deck block, find a competent machinist and see if you can entice them into building you a deck girdle at the very least. This will help keep the block from flexing too much, and help keep the cylinders from deflecting under heavy boost. You would also want to consider fabbing torque plates onto an open deck block. I have seen Toyota 22RE blocks with 8 inch splits in the block from over torquing at the motor mounts when running at around 15 psi of boost. The 22RTE has a ton more webbing in the block and the torque plate isn't necessary until the HP and Torque levels start getting pretty high. Plus, putting fuel injected turbo on a motor that was never available with it will be a chore in and of itself. You'll have to find someone that is capable of flashing the ECM and willing to put some substantial time into getting the computer parameters close enough for even your first test drive.

I think there's still a company in Seattle that imports Nissan Skyline RHD's. They're not illegal, but i think they do have to change the bumpers a bit because of different crash safety standards. Hope some of that was helpful.

If your talking about garage SPL they are gone, drugs and grand theft auto will do that to a company, like most around here. Scary to take ur car to a shop when they are copying ur keys.

well the 22b was pretty much a gc8(gm6, whatever you wana call it)

Not too far off. This was a limited run, which was stated previously. the 22B is exactly the same thing as the 99 (JDM) STI except for that the 99STi is a 4 door and the 22B is the 2 door...but it also got a kick ass wide fender kit that can be bought on ebay for $400.

This is what I am planning on doing in the next 6 - 9 months for solo and scca and leave my 04 Rex stock... let the wife drive the 04 Rex and I drive the 22B replicar... just wating how long that will last.

99 2.5 RS (2 door)
Ver 8 Sti drive train and suspension (or which ever one that is the most compatable)
Sti bronze wheels and the wide fender kit and some extra stuff that it may need.

Good luck with that ebay kit, take a close look at it. There are large gaps where it doesnt match up, plus IMHO fiberglass is worthless.

Good luck with that ebay kit, take a close look at it. There are large gaps where it doesnt match up, plus IMHO fiberglass is worthless.


Yes it is, and yes they suck ass. I haven't bought any of thier stuff before but good thing that I can do body work.... and if I cant my dad can help, he has been doing body work since he was 13. So if he cannot do it... well all hope is lost.