The bible

It is a book containing the knowledge of good and evil.

The forbidden fruit was not an apple. The fruit of a tree is also paper. And upon the pages of the bible is the knowledge of good and evil. The bible is poisoned with the knowledge of evil.

Ritualistic animal sacrifices, ceremonies incorporating the blood of dead animals, superstitious numbers, curses, evil spirits, dark prophecies... all in the bible.

Plotting, conspiracy, mass-murder, betrayal, genocide, slavery, suffering, wars... all in the bible.

A book is not 'Holy' if it contains the knowledge of evil, Satan, the devil, demons...

It is darkness. It is contaminated. It is unclean. It is poison.

Religion is the church of the poison mind. Minds poisoned by the knowledge of evil. People are deceived by religion.

The kingdom of God is within us all. Not within the pages of a book containing the knowledge of evil. I have recently shut it for good. I will not touch, nor taste of it again.

Because of Jesus Christ, I'm back in the land of the living. I've torn off my fig-leaf, and am returning to Eden. I am who God made me to be. The shame, guilt, and confusion is past-tense.

Thank You Jesus.

The Tree of Life = Jesus Christ

Eat freely from this tree and be saved.


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"Imagine" - John Lennon

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.


Jesus is the answer!

Michael111

what the hell are you talking about?

um. . . i'm a Christian. . . and this my friend has potential to hit the dumpster very soon :)

Que?



IBthisgetsmovedtothedumpster

The Bible is the very word of God, and the only way it could have been tainted was by being translated by man. Is that what you were getting at? :confused:
Oh, and it's said that the Fruit of Knowledge of Good and Evil was a quince ;)

Originally posted by gdogg
um. . . i'm a Christian. . . and this my friend has potential to hit the dumpster very soon :)

ditto, what the heck are you talking about, I'm a christian too.

so are you promoting or rejecting religion, cause that lennon quote definately is against religion, and is about the beauty of being alive

Your first post... a religious rant... :rolleyes:

This is beyond off topic, this is simply uncalled for.

I'll take the snap and make the hold, someone please boot this one through the uprights and into the dumpster.

maybe he's trying to get a discussion going? i see nothing wrong with that

ya, but when you directly insult the word of god, that is just blasphemy.

Originally posted by PyroManiac
ya, but when you directly insult the word of god, that is just blasphemy.

ok i can understand that... but its blasphemy to you, not necessarily to others... i dont know exactly what he is getting at... maybe if michael111 would reply with a little clearer of an explanation.

this is this guys one and only post, don't get all upset about it. He's probably posting this on every forum on the internet.

Yeah, he kinda sends the wrong message and does some damage, and you're right...he was probably just doing a "drive-by" posting.

He should have posted something like this:

"Imagine a place on the earth that never saw the sun. Day in, day out, it is covered with thick clouds. From the time a person was born until the time he died he never saw even a glimpse of the sun. Suppose you visited this place and tried to convince the inhabitants of the reality, the beauty, and the power of the sun. “Where I come from,” you say, “a huge yellow ball rises up over the sea each day and floats across the sky, no strings attached, giving warmth and light to those upon the earth. The reason you don’t experience it is because you are cut off from it by the clouds.” Although the thought may seem fantastic to those people, the fact that they don’t believe in it does not change the reality that it exists." This is what the Love of God is like.

"I've never seen the wind. I've seen the effects of the wind, but I've never seen the wind. It's a mistery to me." - Billy Graham.



Have a great day! (even if this does go into the bin)

the bible is just as much the word of god as me telling you that you are an idiot.

Originally posted by brian_christie
Yeah, he kinda sends the wrong message and does some damage, and you're right...he was probably just doing a "drive-by" posting.

He should have posted something like this:

"Imagine a place on the earth that never saw the sun. Day in, day out, it is covered with thick clouds. From the time a person was born until the time he died he never saw even a glimpse of the sun. Suppose you visited this place and tried to convince the inhabitants of the reality, the beauty, and the power of the sun. “Where I come from,” you say, “a huge yellow ball rises up over the sea each day and floats across the sky, no strings attached, giving warmth and light to those upon the earth. The reason you don’t experience it is because you are cut off from it by the clouds.” Although the thought may seem fantastic to those people, the fact that they don’t believe in it does not change the reality that it exists." This is what the Love of God is like.

"I've never seen the wind. I've seen the effects of the wind, but I've never seen the wind. It's a mistery to me." - Billy Graham.



Have a great day! (even if this does go into the bin)

What did you watch the matrix to much or something?

Hmmm. After rereading that...it did sound like that. Sorry!

(Remember, this is "Random Thoughts" and a reply to the nutty message the original person posted)

How about this.....you must read it to it's end.

"You’ve always wanted to skydive, but the thought scared you too much to try it. That is, until you met someone who had made over 100 jumps. He talked you into it by explaining how safe it was. His enthusiasm was contagious. He spoke of the freedom of falling through the air ...the adrenaline rush...the unspeakable exhilaration. Now you are standing on the edge of a plane, looking down on the earth far, far be-low.

Everything has been checked. Double-checked. This is safer than driving on the freeway—a thought that helps you deal with the fear. Modern parachutes are state-of-the-art. Besides, there is a backup chute. Still, your heart is beating with apprehension. Suddenly, you jump! You have trained so much for this moment, you instinctively spread your hands and legs. The speed is unbelievable. The power of the air forcing itself against your body is incredible. It’s like a dream. You are defying the law of gravity, racing through the air at more than 120 mph!

The earth is coming closer. All normal sense of time lost. Speed, thrust of air, unspeakable joy. You glance at the altimeter on your wrist. Only another ten seconds and you will pull the rip cord and feel the jolt of the parachute opening. All that you had been told was true. The adrenaline rush is like nothing you have experienced. If only it could last a little longer. Reluctantly, you pull the cord. It opens, but there is no jolt!

You tilt your head back to see a horrifying sight: the parachute has twisted and is trailing like a flapping streamer. Your heart races with fear, pounding in your chest. Your eyes bulge in terror. Your chest heaves as you gasp for air. You try to keep a clear mind and remember your training...pull the second cord. Nothing happens! You pull again. Again! Harder. Harder! Nothing. Your throat lets out a scream, a groan of panic. Your heart is pounding so hard you think your chest will burst. Sweat breaks through your skin. A thousand thoughts speed through your mind. Your family! Your fate!...Safer than driving on the freeway! You whisper, “What a fool I was ...to think that I could defy the law of gravity.” Now a merciless law waits for the moment of impact. The ground accelerates toward you. No words can describe the terror gripping your mind.

A voice is speaking to you. It is the voice of good sense. It is the voice you ignored so often: “You have played the fool. You have given up your life, your most precious possession, for a cheap thrill. You have exchanged your loved ones for a rush of adrenaline. What a fool ...what a fool!” One word stands alone to describe how you feel about what you’ve done. One word screams within the corridors of your terrified mind as the earth races toward you, as death readies to embrace you. One word, a word that you have never understood fully until this moment. That terrible word is remorse!

The world, the flesh, and the devil whisper to you about how pleasurable sin is. That God isn’t angry at sin. God is love. It is safe to jump into the arms of iniquity and abandon yourself to a free fall through its vast domain. You go where angels fear to tread. But it is worth it. The rush is everything sin promised. You drink in iniquity like water. You love the darkness. Conscience speaks again and again, but you ignore its warning. You are defying the Moral Law and loving every minute.

Now you stand before the Judge on Judgment Day. You pull your first line by telling God what a good person you are. Nothing happens. The Moral Law rushes at you. In panic, you pull the second line and tell God that you believed in Him. Again, nothing happens. It is no use. Your mouth is stopped. The Moral Law accelerates toward you even faster, promising to so impact you that it will “grind you to powder” (Luke 20:18). Death and hell wait to embrace you. Unspeakable terror fills your heart. Conscience speaks so clearly now: “What a fool you have been. You rejected the mercy of God in Jesus Christ. You have given up your loved ones in exchange for the joys of a sinful lifestyle. You relinquished your most precious possession, your very life, for the cheap thrill of sin. What a fool! What a fool!” One word will stay with you for eternity. One word alone will echo forever within your tormented mind. Remorse! You whisper the word, “Remorse...remorse.”

Suddenly you are staring at the ceiling of your bedroom, still mouthing the word through dry lips. Remorse! The sheets are soaked with sweat. It was just a dream. You look out the window and see the sun breaking through the green trees. It was just a dream! It’s morning now. A peaceful new day. Today’s the day you go skydiving. It will be your first time."

Sagittarius: (Nov. 22—Dec. 21)
A bizarre misunderstanding on your part will result in your going to church every Sunday and speaking sincerely to invisible entities with the belief that it might do you some sort of good.


shutya traps you bleating zealots.

long winded but a good read

Originally posted by MonkeyAB
this is this guys one and only post, don't get all upset about it. He's probably posting this on every forum on the internet.

this whole thread is funny

Originally posted by dr3d1zzl3
the bible is just as much the word of god as me telling you that you are an idiot.
Which means that in both circumstances you can choose to believe it or not :D
Oh, and brian_christie: good read, but I'd just like to say that God IS indeed love. Just because He loves us does not mean He tolerates our sins, but He will and does forgive us if we ask for His forgiveness. Much like the father who forgave his Prodigal Son as in the famous parable :D
However, if we choose to reject His love and refuse to repent of our sins, then cursed are we indeed and nothing but Hell lies before us.
$2 says this post of mine will get flamed by someone here as being "blindly religious" or something like that... ;)

damnit, chokey d
i should have figured you were a bible thumper.

Choku Dori: Agreed 100% ! :D
(Those weren't mine...they were from Ray Comfort's site. )

Originally posted by Choku Dori
Which means that in both circumstances you can choose to believe it or not :D
Oh, and brian_christie: good read, but I'd just like to say that God IS indeed love. Just because He loves us does not mean He tolerates our sins, but He will and does forgive us if we ask for His forgiveness. Much like the father who forgave his Prodigal Son as in the famous parable :D
However, if we choose to reject His love and refuse to repent of our sins, then cursed are we indeed and nothing but Hell lies before us.
$2 says this post of mine will get flamed by someone here as being "blindly religious" or something like that... ;)

Great post man

Originally posted by Choku Dori
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$2 says this post of mine will get flamed by someone here as being "blindly religious" or something like that... ;)

i guess u are alright afterall choku... even though u are a horndog :D just remember God still loves you even though u lust after the korean chickies :rolleyes: :eek: :banana:

Originally posted by sighborg
damnit, chokey d
i should have figured you were a bible thumper.
Bwahahaha!!!! :D :D :banana:
And God says that teh secks is okay as long as you keep it under control ;)

Originally posted by Choku Dori
Bwahahaha!!!! :D :D :banana:
And God says that teh secks is okay as long as you keep it under control ;)

ummmm, or married.

Originally posted by Choku Dori
However, if we choose to reject His love and refuse to repent of our sins, then cursed are we indeed and nothing but Hell lies before us.
$2 says this post of mine will get flamed by someone here as being "blindly religious" or something like that... ;)

...I'm not saying the post is 'blindly religious' or anything like that... simply put: cursed am I indeed and nothing but hell lies before Me :rolleyes:

If He (the invisible one in the sky that sends you to the good or bad place when you're dead) deserves capitalization, then I think sure as hell do too. :) :)

ummmm, or married.
That's what I meant by "under control" ;)
Hey, looks like we really did get dumped into Troll Hall lol
Oh, and scoobsport98: meant no offense by my post :D

Which means that in both circumstances you can choose to believe it or not :D
Oh, and brian_christie: good read, but I'd just like to say that God IS indeed love. Just because He loves us does not mean He tolerates our sins, but He will and does forgive us if we ask for His forgiveness. Much like the father who forgave his Prodigal Son as in the famous parable :D
However, if we choose to reject His love and refuse to repent of our sins, then cursed are we indeed and nothing but Hell lies before us.
$2 says this post of mine will get flamed by someone here as being "blindly religious" or something like that... ;)

Very good points! God loves us and forgives us, but will always allow us our own free will, even if we're being stupid.

"I am an atheist, out and out. It took me a long time to say it. I've been an atheist for years and years, but somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable to say one was an atheist, because it assumed knowledge that one didn't have. Somehow it was better to say one was a humanist or an agnostic. I finally decided that I'm a creature of emotion as well as of reason. Emotionally I am an atheist. I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time."
[Isaac Asimov, "Free Inquiry", Spring 1982, vol.2 no.2, p.9]

"I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time."
[Isaac Asimov, "Free Inquiry", Spring 1982, vol.2 no.2, p.9]

That's a sad and risky conclusion.

That's a sad and risky conclusion.

In your opinion, which you are entitled to.

In your opinion, which you are entitled to.

Yup. God Bless America!

That's a sad and risky conclusion.

i agree. plus, atheism is a belief in something that cant be proven (prove to me there is no God). and isnt the definition of atheism believing in nothing?

seems like circular reasoning to me

i agree. plus, atheism is a belief in something that cant be proven (prove to me there is no God). and isnt the definition of atheism believing in nothing?

seems like circular reasoning to me

No, you obviously don't understand. That's OK it's pretty common. The burden of proof is not on me. You are saying something that's not there is there. I can't prove nothing is there you, can't prove a negative.

http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ath/blathm_index.htm

http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ath/blathm_xtn_anti.htm

http://atheism.about.com/library/weekly/aa100798.htm

No, you obviously don't understand. That's OK it's pretty common. The burden of proof is not on me. You are saying something that's not there is there. I can't prove nothing is there you, can't prove a negative.


Peaty, I would challenge you to read "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell. He is a former attorney that finished graduate school and dedicated himself to writing a book that fully countered the cause for Christianity. This book ended up being the one that I am recommending to you, because after years of research, the evidence he found insisted that Jesus existed and that he was and is Christ.

He lays out a plethora of evidence that I don't have the time to go over right now (finals week!). But the book forces the reader to make a firm choice of whether or not they believe (as does "The Passion of Christ"). It seems you've already made a choice, but you may want to take a glance at this one and see what you think.


BTW, thanks for all your technical expertise that you lend to this forum and scoobymods. I have found many answers from your posts.

He is a former attorney Unfortunately, I'm sure those exist I've seen them. Here are some links about that book.

http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1994/3/3evide94.html

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jerry_borchandt/factor.html

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/index.shtml

I'm about as likely to change your mind as you are mine. At my age anyway, college finales for me were over 20 years ago, I'm old :)

I'm just presenting another Point of view is all this is Troll Hall after all :). I don't care to change your mind. If you are happy I'm happy. It's only when religion starts to interfere with me directly that it really bothers me. I don't want people knocking on my door trying to save me and that sort of stuff. I have religious friends and we agree to disagree and still have civil conversations that are mentally stimulating.