Isreal gives up Gaza & other territories in exchange for peace.
Islamic millitants continue the attacks & kidnap IDF troops.
Isreal opens a can of whoop ass.

Guess who's gonna get the negative press?
Who do you support?

About time they are unleashed. Lucky for them GW has their back, 'course they can whoop some *ss without us.

If Syria steps up to help out Hezbollah, (which they will have to or Hezbollah will be destroyed by the IDF.) then this could get out of hand fast. As Iran will enter the conflict, which means we enter the conflict. Me thinks the inevitable is unfolding before us.

WWIII? And they said the era of multinational worldwide conflict was over, psh.

I think we should find a way to relocate the US to the moon and put up a bubble. Isolationist politics with a global economy. ;)

Syria is gonna step up and harness the hezbollah. Just watch. If they don't, they know what the ramifications will be. Syria is the lynchpin to the whole issue. If Syria doesn't step up to the task, they will find IDF infiltrating them as well. To Israel, Iran's threats are falling on deaf ears. Israel will do whatever it takes to ensure success (destroying Hezbollah.)

I hope these ****ers get what's been coming to them for the last twenty years. Maybe they'll even shut Ahmadenijads legs while they're at it.

Pussies can talk all they want, but when it hits the fan, you gotta be willing to throw down. Isreal seems to be one of the last nations willing to put it's muscle where it's mouth is.

Iran warns of 'fierce response' should Israel strike at Syria

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/738315.html

Oh brother.

If Syria steps up to help out Hezbollah, (which they will have to or Hezbollah will be destroyed by the IDF.) then this could get out of hand fast. As Iran will enter the conflict, which means we enter the conflict. Me thinks the inevitable is unfolding before us.

FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well for those that think we're Israels's puppet it actually looks like it this time. Not that I have a problem with it or anything......

But it looks like this isn't going to do much for our global PR :)

**** is about to hit the fan down there. Not gonna be good.

At least we all agree on this one. :p

Those idiots are gonna keep fighting until everyone is dead. Those two cultures are never going to be able to peacefully coexist, they have been fighting for eons and will continue to do so until the entire poplulation of one is gone.

Those idiots are gonna keep fighting until everyone is dead. Those two cultures are never going to be able to peacefully coexist, they have been fighting for eons and will continue to do so until the entire poplulation of one is gone.

Not quite, my ganga enjoying friend.

Look at it this way:

If the bad guys laid down all of their weapons, there would be peace in the region.
However, is IDF laid down their weapons, there would be a slaughter of Jews not seen since WW2.

The Palestinians are being used by the res of the Arab/Islamic world as pawns to continue the war against Israel.

Clearly, the only way peace will ever be achieved in this region is to kill every Jew. :rolleyes:

Well said.

I think we should find a way to relocate the US to the moon and put up a bubble. Isolationist politics with a global economy. ;)

I'm all about isolationism. We spend so much money on the UN and in foriegn aid, why? They hate us anyways? Funk em.

I'll do my part to help out Israel by buying an Israeli made gun the next chance I get.

Interesting article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13853565/?GT1=8307
Some good points about Iran and Syria's involvment in the matter. It seems to me that Israel has a lot of international support, even if the other countries don't come out and say it outright.

I had been (and really still) not very happy with Israel.

However, both of these articles made everything crystal clear for me.
http://gpatmac.com/stratfor_red_alert_breaking_intelligence_backgroun der.htm
http://gpatmac.com/stratfor_red_alert_breaking_intelligence_hezbollah s_motives.htm

is it just me or is Israel the only country involved in this debacle that has nukes? Iran doesn't count, since we don't know.

IMO, nukes aren't even at issue. I mean, they always are but nukes are above strategic. They're political. They're sabres. They're useful as an ace up the sleeve at the bargaining table.

Like I said in my first post. Israel's going into Syria shortly.

IMO, nukes aren't even at issue. I mean, they always are but nukes are above strategic. They're political. They're sabres. They're useful as an ace up the sleeve at the bargaining table.

Like I said in my first post. Israel's going into Syria shortly.

I don't know that Israel would have many qualms about actually using nukes, if they saw a reason to.

Those are some really facinating articles. Nice post :)

I don't know that Israel would have many qualms about actually using nukes, if they saw a reason to.
I doubt even Isreal would be willing to risk the political ramifications of using nuclear weapons.

I agree with pat that Isreal will be moving into Syria shortly. However - as the article states - this could possibly be adverted through under-the-table bargaining. I doubt Syria wants to deal with an Isreali invasion into their territory, and believe that they will do everything in their power to advert such a conflict. Syria, though Muslum, is more interested in their political and economic goals in the reigon than their "muslum brothers". The powers that be in Syria all too often get thrown into the same catagory as Iran and other Islamist regimes in the reigon, when in reality Syria is an entirely different beast. The "president" and most of his advisors are well (western) educated, and are much more intersted in Syria's own power than anything else. I doubt they will make any moves that would put Syria in jepordy.
-Jeff

I pretty much believe everything George Friedman says without question.

Yup. WRT using nukes, it's not so much willingness as it is risk assessment. I don't think anyone in any current theater is willing to accept the ramifications of actually targetting someone with nukes. The fallout would be much greater than just from the impact of the round.

I doubt even Isreal would be willing to risk the political ramifications of using nuclear weapons.

I agree with pat that Isreal will be moving into Syria shortly. However - as the article states - this could possibly be adverted through under-the-table bargaining. I doubt Syria wants to deal with an Isreali invasion into their territory, and believe that they will do everything in their power to advert such a conflict. -Jeff

This is happening right now. Israel has given Syria an ultimatum: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3275886,00.html

Hmmm, that puts Syria in a tight spot. As the articles pat posted showed (and other things I have read), I doubt that Syria has enough control over Hizbullah to stop all activity within 72 hours, and even if they did I'm not quite sure if they would so publicly, as that would likely draw strong critizism from many more fundamental muslums. However, Syria is sort of a "rogue force" in the area, so who knows. I'm sure they do not want air strikes on their own territory, but I'd be somewhat supprised to see them publicly put the hold (if even possible) on hizbullah's attacks. Its going to be a intersting couple of days!
Cheers
-Jeff

Hmmm, that puts Syria in a tight spot. As the articles pat posted showed (and other things I have read), I doubt that Syria has enough control over Hizbullah to stop all activity within 72 hours-Jeff

Good point. Let's see if they take any initiative to do something to stop them.

It seems to me that trying to figure out what Syria might do is very difficult due to the fact that Syria is mostly secular.

So I was thinking, we have +- 250,000 troops right inbetween the two countries directly involved in funding, training and logistically supplying hezbollah. IMHO Iran is funding, training and fighting a war by proxy through sending logistical support to Syria and using the week government of Lebanon to stage attacks from thier southern border. How long can we put up with this sword shaking from the Persian facist regime? I'm no military expert but are the hundreds of thousands of troops we have in Iraq a deterrent for the Persians or thier so called hostages? The world community needs to stand up to these facists and remove them by force. This can't be a uni or bilateral operation between Israel and the US though. There needs to be some sort of unified coalition via NATO or even the UN to forcefully remove these neo nazis from power.

It seems to me that trying to figure out what Syria might do is very difficult due to the fact that Syria is mostly secular.
Secular in what aspect? Fourteen members of parliment happen to be hezbollah.
The CIA factbook takes issue with that...

Religions:
Sunni Muslim 74%, Alawite, Druze, and other Muslim sects 16%, Christian (various sects) 10%, Jewish (tiny communities in Damascus, Al Qamishli, and Aleppo)

So now these dirty ****ers are launching rockets into Nazareth, what the **** would the stupid ass international community be saying if the Israelis were bombing Mecca or Medina, isn't it about the same thing? How the **** do you fight somebody who makes thier bases in civilian apartment comlexes? These ***** ass pussies claimed Israel bombed a "Mosque" that they were building 100 feet under ground, who the **** buys that ****? The only reason they pull this crap is so civilians are killed when anyone counterattacks. I heard a Hezbollah soundbite earlier today saying they want the Israelis to come out and fight them one on one, wtf? I say leaflet southern Lebanon, Iran and Syria and turn the whole ****hole to glass.

Sorry. I'm beginning to sound like dre.

Secular in what aspect? Fourteen members of parliment happen to be hezbollah.
The CIA factbook takes issue with that...Would you call the USA secular? I would. But the CIA doesn't seem to.
Religions:
Definition Field Listing
Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%, other 10%, none 10% (2002 est.)

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1003/p06s01-wome.html
http://www.tharwaproject.com/node/3096
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004783.php

Syria is largely secular. It has a very extremist faction that is increasingly influential and which is guiding or at least helping to shape policy.

I say leaflet southern Lebanon, Iran and Syria and turn the whole ****hole to glass.Is there some sort of bomb=leaflet filter?;) Did you mean carpet bomb?

Poor Lebanon is being bombed to tatters :(. A county that was definately on the rebound, and a "beacon of hope" in the middle east is back to square one. And because of some dumbass terrorists? :(. Really is a shame. I saw beiruit back about a year/half ago and it was really starting to look like the beautiful city it once was again. However, after seeing the few pictures a friend of mine there has sent me, it makes me furious at both sides for destroying the lives/livelyhoods of those in both countries. Just a terrible pity.
-Jeff

Would you call the USA secular? I would. But the CIA doesn't seem to.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1003/p06s01-wome.html
http://www.tharwaproject.com/node/3096
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004783.php


Good point, I would say the US is more like 50% athiest/agnostic. I don't know where they pulled the 52% protestant from.

http://www.therossman.com/examiner/05/july/title.jpg

Good post, Dre. Down with BU****LER! :rolleyes:

I bet your buddies over here sure miss you: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21636_Hizballah_Supporters_in_San_Francisco #comments Viva viva Palestina! Wtf? Yeah...

Good post, Dre. Down with BU****LER! :rolleyes:

I bet your buddies over here sure miss you: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21636_Hizballah_Supporters_in_San_Francisco #comments Viva viva Palestina! Wtf? Yeah...


While their views dont have **** to do with my own, i do respect them for utilizing their right to public peaceful demonstrations. But you probably dont like the fact that someone can stand up and say something that is contrary to your own shallow views now do you?

Of course I do. I served so people could do so. What did you ever do?Oh that's right... NOTHING

Of course I do. I served so people could do so. What did you ever do?Oh that's right... NOTHING


...while it may be valid, and serving is a high honor, this is a cheap shot if I've ever seen one...

Oh Well.

Of course I do. I served so people could do so. What did you ever do?Oh that's right... NOTHING


Thats it buddy.. not a damn thing..
;)

See some people are stupid and have to give their lives/bodies/time to others(cause they dont have much else to give or they simple arent creative nuff to figure out another way).

Others are smart4r and only need to lend their skills and ideas.

Which one do you think you are? I have my answer...

...while it may be valid, and serving is a high honor, this is a cheap shot if I've ever seen one...


no worries man like i have said before i can do more in a few hours then he has done in a lifetime.

no worries man like i have said before i can do more in a few hours then he has done in a lifetime.

:rotfl:

Hell all it takes is a few lines of properly written code ;)

and you know my low blow was better then your lame ass one... hahaha