Weasel 555
11-25-2002, 01:41 PM
I have the Prodrive ECU,
just wondering if anyone else is running with it and what mods you have :)
Andy.
just wondering if anyone else is running with it and what mods you have :)
Andy.
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View Full Version : Anyone else have the Prodrive ECU ? Weasel 555 11-25-2002, 01:41 PM I have the Prodrive ECU, just wondering if anyone else is running with it and what mods you have :) Andy. Impreziv 11-25-2002, 09:02 PM The cheese stands alone Weasel 555 11-25-2002, 09:18 PM oh well i guess ;) anybody out there ?? yooohoo ??? corndog 11-25-2002, 09:19 PM How long have you had it, and where did you get it from? I've been looking for one and they don't seem to be available in the states. Weasel 555 11-25-2002, 09:34 PM since June :) you can get them here: http://www.totalsubaruperformance.com/products/WRX/wrx.html or http://www.avsport.com/index.php?pid=435 its total plug n play :) too Andy... corndog 11-25-2002, 09:36 PM I tried total subaru a few weeks ago and they said not available. I'll try AVS and see what they say Thanks Weasel 555 11-25-2002, 09:41 PM i guess they are rare then :eek: i really like it :) though .... corndog 11-25-2002, 10:02 PM Do you need any boost control other than factory with this ECU. Reading the AVS write-up, they say it generates more boost. I've been to the prodrive and Subaru K web sites, and the PPP doesn't list any type of additional boost control, but you never know... westy66 11-26-2002, 06:50 AM i tried to get one of these too... i think someone is going to start re-flashing stock ECU's per Prodrive. who knows???? Obi-Wan 11-26-2002, 10:30 AM Originally posted by corndog Do you need any boost control other than factory with this ECU. Reading the AVS write-up, they say it generates more boost. I've been to the prodrive and Subaru K web sites, and the PPP doesn't list any type of additional boost control, but you never know... I don't think you do, but I could be wrong. Remember, boost is controlled by the ECU so if you reprogram the ECU to a higher boost, voila...... Weasel 555 11-26-2002, 10:34 AM Obi-wan, thanks :) Corndog, I actually run mine with the HKS EVC IV (electronic boost controller) Andy... BOP 11-26-2002, 12:00 PM this is also pointless Weasel 555 11-26-2002, 12:22 PM BOP, I've been running it since june on my rex and had the car dynoed at pruven performance in Ct....:) so far no problems at all :) also remember the ECU is self learning like the stock ecu ;) 0.05 worth Andy... p.s. buy, beg or find one since they work folks :D BOP 11-26-2002, 01:31 PM this is also pointless Weasel 555 11-26-2002, 01:42 PM BOP, I was'nt trying to shoot the messanger just trying to state what i know from first hand experience :) my rex is far from stock :) VF23 ported polished, SAFC,HKS EVC 4,ggr up-pipe,scoobysport down-pipe, Samco inductionand intercooler hoses ....underdrive pulley,lightened flywheel thats with stock injectors !!! 261.9 hp and 262.1 lb/ft torque at the wheels at 16psi :) pm me a fax # and i can send you the dyno sheet :) i will try to post it here though give me a few minutes first...since the file size i have is too big :eek: Andy.. Weasel 555 11-26-2002, 02:05 PM BOP, here you go :) Andy... Lobster Man 11-26-2002, 02:07 PM Andy's car is NIIIIIIIICE!!! Weasel 555 11-26-2002, 02:32 PM Lobster Man, I try :) Andy BOP 11-26-2002, 05:35 PM this is also pointless Weasel 555 11-26-2002, 06:34 PM BOP, thanks :) i think thats like 310 at the crank ?? next up 550cc STi injectors and Perrin parallel fuel rails :D "Nino hurry up and get the injectors please" ;) Andy... Sloppy Joe 11-26-2002, 06:52 PM I have a Prodrive ECU. I have had it since October 01. It has withstood the test of time. I have had absolutely zero problems thus far. I run 93/94 octane and have had no audible detenation. The performance gains were very noticable after the ECU swap even with a fully stock exhaust system in place. I highly recommend them as long as you have access to 93+ octane fuel. Simply put Prodrive wants to ( and will be ) releasing their ECU to the U.S. market ie, PPP ( Prodrive Power Package ~ ECU, turboback, uppipe and CAI ) but they needed to be sure it would be compatible with a minumum of 91 octane fuel first, hence the delay in its release.. I have corresponded with Simon Lines of Prodrive via email regarding my experience with their ECU. He gave me a lot of good info regarding their performance philosophy and the limits of the ECU ( which I can elaborate on if you would like ) and was very interested and encouraged to know about my satisfaction. Tom.. P.S. I will be selling this ECU soon due to my upcomming major modifications planned. If anyone is interested in one of these you can let me know and I will keep you in mind once it is available. They are not cheap, I paid $900.00 plus I had to swap out my stock ECU for it. I purchased it thru Totalsubaruperformance.com Weasel 555 11-26-2002, 08:25 PM Sloppy Joe, thanks for your input and knowledge :D i know someone who will purchase the ECU when you are ready to sell :) so i call first refusal please :) please pm or e-mail more info regarding the ECU if you have time Andy... WRBLUEWAGON 11-27-2002, 06:41 AM Originally posted by Weasel 555 BOP, here you go :) Andy... Big Andy,,, What were you A/F readings???? I will have Vishnu's ecu re-program soon and I understand that he is using the same software as Prodrive. So if you need a STI map with fuel rails shiv can help you out. My Very Best and Happy thanksgiving. Eric Weasel 555 11-27-2002, 08:15 AM Eric, Thanks mate A/F was around 11 across the rpm range :) have a good thanksgiving too Sloppy Joe 11-27-2002, 03:03 PM Originally posted by Weasel 555 Sloppy Joe, thanks for your input and knowledge :D i know someone who will purchase the ECU when you are ready to sell :) so i call first refusal please :) please pm or e-mail more info regarding the ECU if you have time Andy... PM's aren't functioning @ this time I believe. I can elaborate about my discussion with Simon Lines here on the boards if you would like ( no big secret really ). Take care, Tom.. Weasel 555 11-27-2002, 09:49 PM Tom, Yeah go ahead :) with what Simon said :) thanks again Andy... NORSE 11-30-2002, 09:38 AM Sloppy Joe Please elaborate.... And Weasel are you using 93+ octane? Because all I can get where I live is 91. So if the prodrive ECU is tuned for 93+ I am SOL until they come out with a US version. T I A - N O R S E Sloppy Joe 11-30-2002, 01:56 PM Originally posted by NORSE Sloppy Joe Please elaborate.... - N O R S E Okay, Okay, he, he... Heres my story, prior to purchasing the Prodrive ECU ( fall of 01' ) I had done some research on their Prodrive Power Packages and spoke to a few people in the U.K. where the Prodrive Power Package ( ECU, exhaust, uppipe and CAI ) are offered and they really liked them. All I wanted originally was moderate performance gains that would be relatively reliable and safe, unlike what I was reading about with the Unichip's. So I found a retailer here in the U.S. who offered the ECU and then decided to make my own PPP understanding all along that I would need a minimum of 93 / 94 octane which is easily available in my region ( thank god...). Interestingly when I asked some techinical questions about the ECU from the people I had purchased it from ( totalsubaruperformance.com ) I was put on hold and then an English gent came on the phone and politely answered all my questions. I would bet that he was instrumental in bringing the ECU's over from the U.K., but I didn't ask because I knew this was a back door operation and Prodrive was not officially backing the distribution. The gentleman told me that Prodrive had released some ECU's to a select few over here for racing and performance driving schools only, but not for the general public. A short while after I was using their ECU Simon Lines posted on the " old club " that Prodrive was not recommending the use of their ECU's here in the states due to our lower octane ratings, specifically 91... Later I decided to contact Simon to let him know that I had been using the ECU for a number of months now and it had been flawless. I figured this may be some good R&D info because I'm sure they would like to eventually release some kind of PPP version for the states. Actually I really didn't think I would here back from him because he gets hundreds of emails a day but to my surprise he responded right away and wanted to know as much as I could tell him in regards to the performance tendencies of my vehicle. Oddly he never did inquire about where I got the ECU from, don't ask don't tell kind of thing I guess, anyways he was very pleased to know how things were going and asked if I would keep in touch for updates. A few months later I gave an update ( no problems to report ) and asked what he thought about me adding a slightly larger turbo ( small IHI VF series ), sti injectors and a bigger TMIC and he responded by saying that I was going far beyond the capabilities of their ECU... He said although the Prodrive ECU is modified for more performance ie, timing and boost changes, it will not be able to cope with the quantum changes that a bigger turbo and added fuel will cause and they had not done any testing with those kinds of mods on the car. He remided me that it was their belief that the WRX EJ20 motor is not designed to safely handle anything over 300bhp and that the longevity of the motor, not to mention the transmission, will be significantly compromised if this is ignored.. I am really glad I had the chance to talk to Simon. That conversation made me get very serious about my upcomming modification pathway and helped me to make some hard decisions ( sti Ver. 7 engine swap, tranny and drive line mods, all in the works now ). Although conversly I have seen people run bigger turbos and injectors along with just the stock ECU and have been fine for many, many miles so far. And we all know now that the Subaru WRX ECU is a learning computer and can adjust, so this should be the same theoretically for the Prodrive version too as it is just the Subaru ECU reflashed by Prodrive to immediately work with their recommended specific add on mods. Hope this feedback helps... Tom MikeyWRX 11-30-2002, 05:04 PM Hey andy.....well this is an option, what are the differences exactly between this ecu and the US ecu? peak boost? timing changes? redline? can anyone provide info on this? thanks -mikey Weasel 555 12-01-2002, 03:36 PM Mikey, if i knew all those details i would tell you :) i do know its more advanced power and fuel mapping to bring the power earlier .... sorry mate i'm a photog not a electronics expert ;) lets just say it works for me :) Andy Weasel 555 12-21-2002, 04:50 PM Holiday bump ;) Jaxx 12-22-2002, 05:50 PM it was my understanding that the US version of the PPP was suppose to be released ta SEMA .. i havn't seen much on it other than the price of the reflash ($850).. $100 more than scoobysport-usa or vishnu is charging. as i reacall there was three versions ecu ecu+backbox ecu+turbo back krillz 02-26-2003, 05:44 AM weasel, is the ecu your running different than the ecu thats being released relatively soon as a reflash? or do you have the one engineered towards the uk??? AaronC 06-26-2003, 02:40 PM I am trying to hunt one of these down. If anyone has one to sell please let me know. |