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HellaDumb 03-14-2006 08:54 AM

Shucks, you mean Jews were in Israel >2000 years ago? Say it ain't so!
 
So why is it "palestinians" claim this territory? Seems American Indians have a stronger case against the U.S. than the Palestinians have against Israel.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/ap_on_sc/israel_ancient_hideaways[/url]

Tunnels Used by Ancient Jews Discovered By LAURA RESNICK, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 49 minutes ago

Underground chambers and tunnels used during a Jewish revolt against the Romans nearly 2,000 years ago have been uncovered in northern Israel, archaeologists said Monday.

The Jews laid in supplies and were preparing to hide from the Romans during their revolt in A.D. 66-70, the experts said. The pits, which are linked by short tunnels, would have served as a concealed subterranean home.

Yardenna Alexandre of the Israel Antiquities Authority said the find shows the ancient Jews planned and prepared for the uprising, contrary to the common perception that the revolt began spontaneously.

"It definitely was not spontaneous," Alexandre said. "The Jews of that time certainly did prepare for it, with underground hideaways here and in other sites we have found."

The underground chambers at the Israeli Arab village of Kfar Kana, north of Nazareth, were built from housing materials common at the time and hidden directly beneath the floors of aboveground homes — giving families direct access to the hideouts. Other refuges found from the time of the revolt are hewn out of rock.

"This construction was very well camouflaged inside one of the houses," Alexandre said. "There are three pits under this house and one tunnel leading to another pit. There are 11 storage jars in that pit."

Built like igloos, the chambers are wide at the base and small at the top. The tunnels between them are short and the ceilings are too low for standing upright.

Zeev Weiss, a professor of archaeology at Hebrew University in Jerusalem not connected to the discovery, said the find "can give us more information about life in the Galilee in the first century and the preparations Jews were making on the eve of the revolt." Weiss is director of excavations at Sepphoris, which was the largest city in the Galilee at the time of the revolt.

The Jewish revolt against Roman rule ended in A.D. 70, when the Romans sacked Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple.

The ancient Jews at the Kfar site built their houses over the ruins of a fortified Iron Age city, reusing some of the stones from the original settlement. Then they dug through 5 feet of debris from the ruins to build their hideaway complex. "It was quite a lot of work," Alexandre said.

The original settlement, which dates from the 10th and 9th centuries B.C., is also a new discovery.

Alexandre attributes current dating of the original city as an Iron Age settlement to pottery remains, which are plentiful. The excavators have also found large quantities of animal bones, a scarab depicting a man surrounded by two crocodiles and a ceramic seal bearing the image of a lion.

The excavation of the city's architecture has uncovered fortified walls which still stand 5 feet tall in some places. "It's magnificent," said Alexandre. "You can walk among them."

MVWRX 03-14-2006 10:30 AM

No s***...this is news to you? Judaism was around before Christianity and Islam...they claimed what is now Isreal to be the religion's holy ground. Then the Christians claimed it...they fought over it quite a bit. Then the Muslims claimed it, and they are still fighting over it with the Jews. You had to have known that already...

FW Motorsports 03-14-2006 10:48 AM

[QUOTE=MVWRX]No s***...this is news to you? Judaism was around before Christianity and Islam...they claimed what is now Isreal to be the religion's holy ground. Then the Christians claimed it...they fought over it quite a bit. Then the Muslims claimed it, and they are still fighting over it with the Jews. You had to have known that already...[/QUOTE]

So, if you know this, then why do support PLO & Hamas?

MVWRX 03-14-2006 11:03 AM

Hahaha, I do? That's hilarious. Like I've said before, I'm opposed to supporting ALL religious states. That includes Isreal as well as the palastinian forces.

HellaDumb 03-14-2006 01:58 PM

[QUOTE=MVWRX]No s***...this is news to you? Judaism was around before Christianity and Islam..[/QUOTE]
Nope, not news. That's why I said "say it aint so!" :)

b4437 03-14-2006 02:01 PM

they are the same people and some converted to muslims. so,israel,palestine is all the same,man.

MVWRX 03-14-2006 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=b4437]they are the same people and some converted to muslims. so,israel,palestine is all the same,man.[/QUOTE]


Yep, we're all humans. If religious people would only realize that....

HellaDumb 03-14-2006 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=b4437]they are the same people and some converted to muslims. so,israel,palestine is all the same,man.[/QUOTE]

Hahahah that takes the cake for comedic BS! Yeah for you!

VIBEELEVEN 03-14-2006 11:52 PM

He's right, to an extent. Before being persecuted by the Muslims and even the Christians, the Jews were harassed by the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Egyptians as well as the various Arab tribes.

VIBEELEVEN 03-15-2006 12:22 AM

4U hd.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism#Monotheism[/url]

spedmunki 03-15-2006 12:48 AM

[QUOTE=VIBEELEVEN]He's right, to an extent. Before being persecuted by the Muslims and even the Christians, the Jews were harassed by the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Egyptians as well as the various Arab tribes.[/QUOTE]


ya man havnt you heard of moses...... or jesus?

jvick125 03-15-2006 08:38 AM

[QUOTE=spedmunki]ya man havnt you heard of moses...... or jesus?[/QUOTE]
All those were at or before Jesus's time, and most before Moses.

VIBEELEVEN 03-15-2006 11:34 AM

I think muslims have about as much claim to Jeruselum than L. Ron Hubbard does. :rolleyes:

FW Motorsports 03-15-2006 11:57 AM

All your Jerusalems belong to us!!


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