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OMG PICTURE OF PRESIDENT BUSH IN A CLASSROOM .. WHAT AN OUTRAGE !!! a
wow.. just... wow
Middle School Teacher In Trouble Over Presidential Photo?
By Ken Rosato
(Monmouth Junction-WABC, October 3, 2004) — You might say it is a symbol of the Great American Divide, a teacher putting up a picture of President Bush in the classroom. Some say it is partisanship while others say it is patriotism.
Rita Bianco, Parent: "Children should know their president and their first lady!"
Parents expressing outrage after a teacher is kicked out of her public school for hanging a picture of President Bush next to pictures of other presidents in her classroom.
Shiba Pillai-Diaz, Teacher: "It happened on a small bulletin board near the American flag and also with a poster of the Declaration of Independence."
This is Crossroads South Middle School in Monmouth Junction, New Jersey. On Thursday, there was a back-to-school night for parents of students. Veteran English teacher Shiba Pillai-Diaz says she was shocked when three parents confronted her. The three, insisting the teacher either add John Kerry's photo to the montage of presidents or remove the Bush photo. When Pillai-Diaz refused, she says the school's vice-principal threatened her job which is an act that has parents here fuming.
Paula Sjolund, Parent: "She didn't do anything wrong, and I think that it should have stayed up there."
Pillai-Diaz ultimately removed the entire bulletin board and says School Principal Jim Warfel told her she disrupted the school with her "inflammatory politics". She says he then ordered her out of the building. While she says she is a Bush supporter in her personal life, Pillai-Diaz says she keeps politics out of the classroom.
Shiba Pillai-Diaz, Teacher: "There was no political intent, nor was there any political content in that photograph nor on the bulletin board."
School officials would not talk on camera but insist nobody here has been fired. To that, Ms. Pillai-Diaz asks what does it mean then when your boss asks you to hand over the keys and kicks you out of the building? She also says she is not sure if she'll be returning to school tomorrow.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/WAB...olteacher.html
By Ken Rosato
(Monmouth Junction-WABC, October 3, 2004) — You might say it is a symbol of the Great American Divide, a teacher putting up a picture of President Bush in the classroom. Some say it is partisanship while others say it is patriotism.
Rita Bianco, Parent: "Children should know their president and their first lady!"
Parents expressing outrage after a teacher is kicked out of her public school for hanging a picture of President Bush next to pictures of other presidents in her classroom.
Shiba Pillai-Diaz, Teacher: "It happened on a small bulletin board near the American flag and also with a poster of the Declaration of Independence."
This is Crossroads South Middle School in Monmouth Junction, New Jersey. On Thursday, there was a back-to-school night for parents of students. Veteran English teacher Shiba Pillai-Diaz says she was shocked when three parents confronted her. The three, insisting the teacher either add John Kerry's photo to the montage of presidents or remove the Bush photo. When Pillai-Diaz refused, she says the school's vice-principal threatened her job which is an act that has parents here fuming.
Paula Sjolund, Parent: "She didn't do anything wrong, and I think that it should have stayed up there."
Pillai-Diaz ultimately removed the entire bulletin board and says School Principal Jim Warfel told her she disrupted the school with her "inflammatory politics". She says he then ordered her out of the building. While she says she is a Bush supporter in her personal life, Pillai-Diaz says she keeps politics out of the classroom.
Shiba Pillai-Diaz, Teacher: "There was no political intent, nor was there any political content in that photograph nor on the bulletin board."
School officials would not talk on camera but insist nobody here has been fired. To that, Ms. Pillai-Diaz asks what does it mean then when your boss asks you to hand over the keys and kicks you out of the building? She also says she is not sure if she'll be returning to school tomorrow.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/WAB...olteacher.html
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So you are allowed to put up pics of all previous presidents, just not the current president? And for what reason - because some Kerry supporters (3) think you will unduly influence kids who can't vote? Jesus, are we going to rip the pages out of history books too if they contain any reference to the current president?
If the school officials had any brains at all, they would have asked the teacher to put up a special bulletin board with Kerry and Bush pictures and news clips and used it to teach the kids about our political system and voting. Of course, that would make too much sense and someone might actually learn something.
If the school officials had any brains at all, they would have asked the teacher to put up a special bulletin board with Kerry and Bush pictures and news clips and used it to teach the kids about our political system and voting. Of course, that would make too much sense and someone might actually learn something.
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Originally Posted by Egan
So you are allowed to put up pics of all previous presidents, just not the current president? And for what reason - because some Kerry supporters (3) think you will unduly influence kids who can't vote? Jesus, are we going to rip the pages out of history books too if they contain any reference to the current president?
If the school officials had any brains at all, they would have asked the teacher to put up a special bulletin board with Kerry and Bush pictures and news clips and used it to teach the kids about our political system and voting. Of course, that would make too much sense and someone might actually learn something.
If the school officials had any brains at all, they would have asked the teacher to put up a special bulletin board with Kerry and Bush pictures and news clips and used it to teach the kids about our political system and voting. Of course, that would make too much sense and someone might actually learn something.
haha.. learn something in public edumacation.. thats a good one Mike !
10-05-2004, 08:59 AM
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This has been de-bunked. She had no other presidents pictures up and was causing trouble. Do you really think if a woman got fired from her job for just having a picture up with the rest of the presidents she would not be sueing the **** out of the school district.
Read up... http://www.peteholiday.com/sbs_statement_10_03_2004.pdf
Now had this been a innocent teacher with just all the pictures of the presidents up then i would of defended her like hell....but it wasn't.
Read up... http://www.peteholiday.com/sbs_statement_10_03_2004.pdf
Now had this been a innocent teacher with just all the pictures of the presidents up then i would of defended her like hell....but it wasn't.
10-05-2004, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott@S-Squared
sounds like a game of "he said / she said" is going to start with this story
10-05-2004, 09:24 AM
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Thanks for the cliff notes 
But this would be 'he said', no?
But this would be 'he said', no?
Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
Actually sounds pretty cut and dried if you read the statement from the Superintendent. She was causing a disruption in her Language-Arts class and when asked to use the time she had to teach Language Arts she refused and walked out of the school, contacted media and said she was fired even though she admits she never heard those words she just assumed. Her fault all the way.
10-05-2004, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Oaf
More proof that Liberalism is a mental disease.
Hey, move this to teh Political forum, so our resident Socialists can defend themselves.
Hey, move this to teh Political forum, so our resident Socialists can defend themselves.
10-05-2004, 09:38 AM
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i guess you could argue that he was never fairly elected... 
That's ridiculous. Even if the teacher didn't have past presidents' pictures shown, as much as I can't stand looking at Bush's face, he is the president, and it's just to have him shown next to an American flag. As long as there isn't any message next to it about REelection...
Doesn't sound like NEWS to me however
That's ridiculous. Even if the teacher didn't have past presidents' pictures shown, as much as I can't stand looking at Bush's face, he is the president, and it's just to have him shown next to an American flag. As long as there isn't any message next to it about REelection...
Doesn't sound like NEWS to me however
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
Actually sounds pretty cut and dried if you read the statement from the Superintendent. She was causing a disruption in her Language-Arts class and when asked to use the time she had to teach Language Arts she refused and walked out of the school, contacted media and said she was fired even though she admits she never heard those words she just assumed. Her fault all the way.
well thats the Superintendent side, then there is hers plus what the news station reported.
don't think its so cut and dried.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
This has been de-bunked. She had no other presidents pictures up and was causing trouble. Do you really think if a woman got fired from her job for just having a picture up with the rest of the presidents she would not be sueing the **** out of the school district.
Read up... http://www.peteholiday.com/sbs_statement_10_03_2004.pdf
Now had this been a innocent teacher with just all the pictures of the presidents up then i would of defended her like hell....but it wasn't.
Read up... http://www.peteholiday.com/sbs_statement_10_03_2004.pdf
Now had this been a innocent teacher with just all the pictures of the presidents up then i would of defended her like hell....but it wasn't.
So what if she only had Bush's photo up, HE'S THE CURRENT PREZ!
How was she causing trouble?
If she was pushing a Liberal Socialist agenda, nothing would have happened.
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Originally Posted by BlingBlingBlue
And this comment is proof that you are a small and narrow minded person. Notice how I didn't attack your idealogy?
At 6' 4", 240 lbs, I'm hardly small.
I wear a 7 3/4" hat, so I'm not narrow minded.
Liberalism = Socialism = Mental Disease.