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FW Motorsports 08-06-2009 10:39 AM

Feds order California to release 43K inmates
 
[URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prisons5-2009aug05,0,1866042.story"]Federal judges order California to release 43,000 inmates[/URL]

Get your CCW permit now!

[QUOTE]California must shrink the population of its teeming prisons by nearly 43,000 inmates over the next two years to meet constitutional standards, a panel of three federal judges ruled Tuesday, ordering the state to come up with a reduction plan by mid-September.
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Irish_car_B0mb 08-06-2009 10:46 AM

what




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VRT MBasile 08-06-2009 10:48 AM

[QUOTE=Paul@dbtuned;2683633][URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prisons5-2009aug05,0,1866042.story"]Federal judges order California to release 43,000 inmates[/URL]

Get your CCW permit now![/QUOTE]

I think it's more like "hide your stash now"

Quoted from same article :lol:
[QUOTE]Potential win-win

Specter emphasized, as did the judges, that the ruling "doesn't mean that 40,000 prisoners are going to walk out of prison tomorrow."

"If done right, this could be a win-win situation for the entire state, as the prisons will be safer for my clients and the staff who work there, taxpayers will save hundreds of millions of dollars a year and communities will be safer as a result," Specter said, pointing to the judges' opinion that prison conditions contribute to repeat offenses.[/QUOTE]

stupidchicken03 08-06-2009 01:21 PM

crazy kalifornia

Tizzo27 08-06-2009 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=Paul@dbtuned;2683633][URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prisons5-2009aug05,0,1866042.story"]Federal judges order California to release 43,000 inmates[/URL]

Get your CCW permit now![/QUOTE]

If California was the kind of State that the average guy could get a CCW.

It probably wouldn't be the kind of State that would be having these sorts of problems..

Yes I realize there are counties in California where CCW Issuance is both fair and common, but the Majority of the state's population is still screwed in this regard..

Superglue WRX 08-06-2009 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=Tizzo27;2683937]If California was the kind of State that the average guy could get a CCW.

It probably wouldn't be the kind of State that would be having these sorts of problems..

Yes I realize there are counties in California where CCW Issuance is both fair and common, but the Majority of the state's population is still screwed in this regard..[/QUOTE]

You're saying that if most people carried guns on their person, there would be less people in prison?

Lurk 08-06-2009 11:40 PM

[QUOTE=Superglue WRX;2683997]You're saying that if most people carried guns on their person, there would be less people in prison?[/QUOTE]

Either that or just more dead criminals. :)

Superglue WRX 08-07-2009 07:40 AM

[QUOTE=Lurk;2684273]Either that or just more dead criminals. :)[/QUOTE]

And more dead people with CCW permits.

FW Motorsports 08-07-2009 07:55 AM

[QUOTE=Superglue WRX;2684426]And more dead people with CCW permits.[/QUOTE]


Clearly, you have no idea of what you say.

Superglue WRX 08-07-2009 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=Paul@dbtuned;2684434]Clearly, you have no idea of what you say.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I forgot carrying guns makes you invincible.

My bad.

Lurk 08-07-2009 09:07 AM

[QUOTE=Superglue WRX;2684426]And more dead people with CCW permits.[/QUOTE]

That's okay. I think I'll still take my chances armed with a pistol and CCW over being unarmed and at the mercy of some dirtbag anyway. If you want to be a sheep, that's your business.

Irrational X 08-07-2009 09:10 AM

[QUOTE=Superglue WRX;2684457]Sorry, I forgot carrying guns makes you invincible.

My bad.[/QUOTE]

ask Australia how banning handguns went...[LIST][*]Homicides up 3.2 percent.[*]Assaults up 8.6 percent.[*]Armed robberies climbed nearly [U]45 percent[/U].[*]In the Australian state of Victoria, gun homicides climbed 300 percent.[*]In the 25 years before the gun bans, crime in Australia had been dropping steadily.[/LIST]
and lets not for this gem:

UK more violent than South Africa
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html[/url]

Superglue WRX 08-07-2009 09:14 AM

[QUOTE=Lurk;2684471]That's okay. I think I'll still take my chances armed with a pistol and CCW over being unarmed and at the mercy of some dirtbag anyway. If you want to be a sheep, that's your business.[/QUOTE]

No gun = sheep
gun = awesome cowboy?

If people want to carry guns with them, I say let them. But it won't turn you into a super hero.

I'm 29 years old and have never been at the mercy of some dirtbag. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?

Superglue WRX 08-07-2009 09:17 AM

[QUOTE=irrational x;2684477]ask Australia how banning handguns went...[LIST][*]Homicides up 3.2 percent.[*]Assaults up 8.6 percent.[*]Armed robberies climbed nearly [U]45 percent[/U].[*]In the Australian state of Victoria, gun homicides climbed 300 percent.[*]In the 25 years before the gun bans, crime in Australia had been dropping steadily.[/LIST]
and lets not for this gem:

UK more violent than South Africa
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Because what I said was to ban all guns right?.... Nooooooooo.... I implied that carrying a gun does not make one impervious to death.

[QUOTE]Description of Straw Man

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:

1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
3. Person B attacks position Y.
4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person. [/QUOTE]

Lurk 08-07-2009 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=Superglue WRX;2684482]No gun = No options
gun = Options[/QUOTE] [B]FIXED[/B]

[QUOTE]I'm 29 years old and have never been at the mercy of some dirtbag. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?[/QUOTE]

Never say never. ;)


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