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Old 04-25-2018, 07:48 AM
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Because it works and pulls cool air instead of a shortflow that pulls hot air?
Does it though?

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I will admit that I occasionally have reservations about my Prodrive on the Fozz (which is made by AEM) just like my Injen on the STI - but that's purely because it's a low-mount passenger side intake and I worry that my love of splashing through puddles in every other car I own will catch me out in a painful manner if I forget and go nuts in heavy rain - but as long as you avoid pools of standing water (which you should be doing anyways in a lowered car)
I'm not really worried about getting water in it.

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I don't get why you'd run a SF intake over the stock airbox, and definitely not over a properly engineered CAI.
I think the SF looks better.

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Her'es jQQ in a nutshell:
asks for advice. disregards all of it.
Hey. **** you. This time, no one gave me advice to disregard.

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makes silly decisions based on 5 billion different (mostly wrong) opinions of some armchair experts on the interwebz. results mediocre. complains.
**** you. I don't think my results are mediocre. I've made a habit of complaining about everything.

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ILU man but you know this is true
**** you.

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PS: the aem is way better in design and results (from my personal experience tuning dozens of each) than the sf.
I think what the AEM really has going for it is that the filter on it is huge. Literally double the size of the Cobb. I think that large filter is the key piece that might make it better. From a temperature perspective, I think the AEM is worse. Yes, it is outside of the engine bay. But it is in a space that doesn't get any air flow. It looks like the AEM will have lower temps while the car is stopped. But when in motion, the Cobb will have lower temps as it actually has air ducted to it.

Ultimately, performance is moot. I don't think I will be making enough power to even exceed the stock intake.

Outside of that, it seems that the Cobb will make more noise than the AEM, which I like. I also like having the box and snorkel deal. If I were to put the AEM on, I would want to paint it black.

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It would take for you to drive through a lake or something seriously stupid to actually hydrolock the car with the aem. Water would have to be up to mid-bumper
Not worried about the water. But as I think about it more. I suspect that a cone could ruin my day.
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Old 04-25-2018, 07:54 AM
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I ran the grimmspeed intake on my old spec.B, which sounds like it's similar to the AEM, and the IAT's at speed were a few degrees below the stock air box and snorkus. I also noticed it drop to near ambient temperatures faster than the stock setup. Was it worth it for the power gain? Nope I would have been much better served getting a VF52.
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I think the SF looks better.


something something form over function something....
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Originally Posted by JourdanWithaU
I think the SF looks better.
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I think that large filter is the key piece that might make it better.
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Ultimately, performance is moot.
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:25 AM
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Nope I would have been much better served getting a VF52.
Oh, hey! I have one of those!

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something something form over function something....
The function is negligable if I'm not anywhere near the limit of the function.

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Im pretty sure multiple people now have said the CAI is better... yet, you like the look of the other better..

Why do you even do this to yourself?
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Im pretty sure multiple people now have said the CAI is better... yet, you like the look of the other better..
At maximum performance, the CAI might be better. At the minimal performance I'm at and the moderate performance I plan to be at, they're arguably the same.

Might as well go for the other that it more pleasing with looks and sound.

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Because work is boring.
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Originally Posted by JourdanWithaU
At maximum performance, the CAI might be better. At the minimal performance I'm at and the moderate performance I plan to be at, they're arguably the same.

Might as well go for the other that it more pleasing with looks and sound.
Why not have room for possible expansion in the future?
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jQQ, y u so ignit?

in fact, when pushed to the absolute flow limit, the sf will support more power before pegging the voltage CEL. 600whp worth of flow, actually. BTDT. The aem beats it overall in almost all situations though.

wait nvm I'm dropping real info/knowledge and not how pretty things look, ignore me.

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Why not have room for possible expansion in the future?
I've shelved parts for a long time. But that's a long time to shelf a part.

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jQQ, y u so ignit?

in fact, when pushed to the absolute flow limit, the sf will support more power before pegging the voltage CEL. 600whp worth of flow, actually.

I'm dropping real info/knowledge
Oh, legit. Good thing I'm keeping the SF.

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IAT's at cruise with the CAI are 2-3 degrees above ambient. With the stock box I was seeing 10 degrees differential or more most of the time, and the time-to-ambient (or steady state at cruise) was way, way longer with a stock/engine bay-sourced setup. I played with a few different feed setups on the STi and didn't note a huge difference, the stock covers did a pretty good job of routing air, and on the Fozz air is pulled from around the fog in a similar way.

What are your IAT's at cruise/speed? How high do they hit in traffic?
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