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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Question Why imports are better than American cars (was: A project, what do you think?)

I have to do a really long research report on why Import cars are better than American cars, so if you guys want to post what you think i can use it in my report. I personally believe that my Subaru is better than most american cars today. I actually like the old Muscle cars of america, that is what i was raised on. I fell in love with my imports, i have owned an RX-7 turbo 2, and a Subaru Wrx. My dad used to have a 1972 corvette convertable, and my RX-7 blew it away. haha. So any replies would be helpful. thanks.
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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Sounds like a good idea for a report. I'd prolly start with comparing the domestic markets that each import comes from (Japan or Europe or whatever...). I think the domestic markets is why the cars are better...just my opinion though, I've never done any research on it...
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:09 AM
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My dad used to have a 1972 corvette convertable, and my RX-7 blew it away.
I would hope so. The later RX-7 would also eat a Datsun 240Z of the same vintage as your dad's 'vette, so a newer sports coupe vs 1972 technology isn't a very fair comparison. How does the 2004 RX-8 compare with the 2004 Corvette Z06? On the other hand, the Z06 costs more than the RX-8 so that might not be comparing apples to apples, either.

I think build quality in late-model domestic cars costing $30,000+ is much better than ten years ago.

There are niche markets performance AWD cars such as the VW R32, the Mitsubishi EVO, and the WRX and STi. Domestic manufacturers have no performance AWD vehicles, yet. Japanese companies don't have anything like the exotic, high-end sports cars made by Ferrari or Porsche. I refer to cars that are manufactured for import into the U.S., not gray market cars that aren't made to be sold here.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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For the most part, America builds trucks these days, as opposed to cars. Of course there are obvious exceptions, but the truck market is where the big 3 make a lot of their money these days.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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How about researching the lousy quality of most things designed and built in america for sale in america. the fat capitalist pig business has no concern about being the "best" or even "really damn good" nope.. for a product to be successful the only factors that matter are "good enough", and ROI (cheap to manufacture). because the only people that matter are the stock holders.

If american builders get an image for building crap it's more cost effective to spread some propaganda about their competitors. bottom line is that decisions that affect the quality of the product are being made not in the interest of product, but in the interest of making money.

Another angle is education. everyone knows how superior just about any other nation's education system is compared to our own. we don't have as many quality engineers and the ones we do have certainly aren't making any important decisions (that would just get in the way of our money making).
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gordy
... the fat capitalist pig business has no concern about being the "best" or even "really damn good" nope.. for a product to be successful the only factors that matter are "good enough", and ROI (cheap to manufacture). because the only people that matter are the stock holders.
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bottom line is that decisions that affect the quality of the product are being made not in the interest of product, but in the interest of making money.
First, aren't the Asian and European car companies also "capitalist pigs"? How many quality cars are coming out of China, Russia or Cuba? lol

Secondly, the idea that a quality product is at odds with the interest of making money is just silly. The bar of "good enough" is always being raised by the competition. Competition and people's desire to make money is why captalism works. Sorry to break it to you, man.

FWIW, GM, Ford and Dodge make world class trucks, and not coincidentally, that is where they make a lot of their money.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Talking Talk about an easy starting thread!

Most if not all European countries are socialist as is Japan. The closer govt. and business get is socialism(lobbyists). Anyways I favor capitalism, sometimes big companies try to squash it politically or otherwise. Is this going to turn into a Mustang vs. Camaro type thing or what. I own domestic and import cars, depends on the flavor of the day. It's not a bargain if you don't like it.
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didnt caddy and olds place in the top 5 for quality? caddy being under lexus?
Old Nov 19, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Haha, I am doing a speech on this next week. Weird that it shows up at the same time, haha.
Old Nov 20, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Talking Think about

Let's not forget that North America is the biggest "free" market out there. There is no other country on the planet that allows the importation of great amounts of consumer goods without a heavy tax penalty. I doubt Japanese and certainly European car makers could afford the quality they build into their cars selling only in their market(s). While a pluriality of American cars would not fare well in other markets, there are still people that would like to buy a cheap new car in other countries, for them a crapelier would do the job. However by the time it gets there it is taxed so much it ceases to be a cheap car. Foreign car makers benefit by selling their products here while having protectionist laws in effect in their own country. We benefit by having choices not available to others. There are cars I would like to see here, but at the same time there are plenty of sheety cars over "there". I doubt there are alot of twentysomething owners of STI and Evo autos(taking into consideration the per capita stats) in other countries. This isn't a yea or nay post, just thought I'd share what little I know. The Korean market is included in the countries with protectionist laws(import taxes).



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