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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Not good Subaru.... not good.

Looks like all this fanciness and toyota influenced ick isn't helping after all.

Prett much guaranteed an issue for every car. Yeah! More than 1 per car can't be good.

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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Looks like all this fanciness and toyota influenced ick isn't helping after all.

Prett much guaranteed an issue for every car. Yeah! More than 1 per car can't be good.

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lol how is this toyotas fault? they are way above average reliability and subaru is way under, if anything Subaru should be MORE like toyota
Old Jun 20, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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lol how is this toyotas fault? they are way above average reliability and subaru is way under, if anything Subaru should be MORE like toyota
I said toyota influenced stuff... meaning the subaru folks are TRYING to do it.... and not succeeding. The fancifying crap.

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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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the article doesnt really define problems, nor does it express the extent of a problem. Not saying subaru is in the clear but I would rather have a 2011 sti with my turn signal problem and random rattles over say a bmw with the those high pressure fuel pump problems that leave me without a car
Old Jun 20, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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the article doesnt really define problems, nor does it express the extent of a problem. Not saying subaru is in the clear but I would rather have a 2011 sti with my turn signal problem and random rattles over say a bmw with the those high pressure fuel pump problems that leave me without a car
It's everything. It's not just recalls and huge failures.

It's really not that awful. I just don't like seeing subaru that low. LOL.

Hell my wife's little plastic cover on the gas filler cover release snapped off when the car was a week old... still haven't fixed it yet. Lazy bastards. That would count. LOL!
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Consumer Reports gives Subaru high marks for reliability. But I think they are smoking crack...
Old Jun 22, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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Any one say pick up tube..?
overall its a small issue compared to number of cars sold. Did anyone see how many people they polled on this study, i think i read it was 75,000. yea thats not even close to being a representative sample size
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as a 2011 owner...I'm not surprised with the results.

Don't get me wrong ,my car has been reliable, but a lot of minor things that should not be a problem on newer cars, have been a problem (rattles mainly). My 240 had less rattles/noises than this thing has
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overall its a small issue compared to number of cars sold. Did anyone see how many people they polled on this study, i think i read it was 75,000. yea thats not even close to being a representative sample size
Yeah. And it's just "problems" I'd rather have a car that I can beat the hell out of that has a broken plastic tab somewhere than one that has a brake pedal snap or a trans that falls apart when you're right foot goes down.


Subaru is a great car and toyota has done a lot to start refining them. I was mainly kidding (Krinkles). I am not overly fond of all of the stuff but subaru's are beginning the refinement process. Remember when the STI didn't have a stereo... (I like that)... but now it comes with the stuff the other cars in that price range come with. My forester is a much better built car as far as fit and finish that my wrx is.... but the new motor sounds like POOOOP!
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Yeah. And it's just "problems" I'd rather have a car that I can beat the hell out of that has a broken plastic tab somewhere than one that has a brake pedal snap or a trans that falls apart when you're right foot goes down.


Subaru is a great car and toyota has done a lot to start refining them. I was mainly kidding (Krinkles). I am not overly fond of all of the stuff but subaru's are beginning the refinement process. Remember when the STI didn't have a stereo... (I like that)... but now it comes with the stuff the other cars in that price range come with. My forester is a much better built car as far as fit and finish that my wrx is.... but the new motor sounds like POOOOP!
Not sure what you mean by this, but I truly believe the non-turbo FB and FA engines (yay DOHC timing chain) sound way better than the mass-market SOHC EJ engines.
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
It's everything. It's not just recalls and huge failures.

It's really not that awful. I just don't like seeing subaru that low. LOL.

Hell my wife's little plastic cover on the gas filler cover release snapped off when the car was a week old... still haven't fixed it yet. Lazy bastards. That would count. LOL!
Do you have a green bumper sticker? Did you drive over the benicia bridge this week at all?
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Not sure what you mean by this, but I truly believe the non-turbo FB and FA engines (yay DOHC timing chain) sound way better than the mass-market SOHC EJ engines.
Then you clearly don't own a new one. EVERY one of the new non-turbo motors I've been around sound like ***. I'm not talking about exhaust note. It sounds like it's constantly low on oil. It's WAY louder than the older motors. Some blame on the chain which I'm glad they went to.

I'm not talking about exhaust note... engine sound is terrible. Sounds like it's busted.
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Then you clearly don't own a new one. EVERY one of the new non-turbo motors I've been around sound like ***. I'm not talking about exhaust note. It sounds like it's constantly low on oil. It's WAY louder than the older motors. Some blame on the chain which I'm glad they went to.

I'm not talking about exhaust note... engine sound is terrible. Sounds like it's busted.
Maybe it has something to do with the weird con-rods? Or the fact that the stroke is larger than the bore?

Hmmm, I gotta look and see if other Subaru drivers are having the same issues you're having with your FB...
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Maybe it has something to do with the weird con-rods? Or the fact that the stroke is larger than the bore?

Hmmm, I gotta look and see if other Subaru drivers are having the same issues you're having with your FB...
Most people refer to it as Timing Chain slap. My wife's 12 Forester does it to. My Mom's 09 is getting there, but it also has 100,000 miles on it.



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