Looking for legal advice
06-07-2012, 08:51 AM
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Leaving aside the pay to play bit, I'd politely suggest there's only so far you want to get into discussing any detail of prospective legal action about anything in public forum. Asking for lawyer recommendations is one thing, playing out the whole scenario is another.
06-07-2012, 09:47 AM
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1. The pickup tube failed on a illegaly "modified car"
2. A pickup tube is bound to fail, crack, chip, or deteriorate when you run your motor hard, and or high/hot oil temps.
3. I understand this cost you your motor bro, but this is just a lose-lose battle that in the long run, will end up costing you much, much more than either a rebuild, or selling what is left of the car and buying something else.
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06-07-2012, 12:38 PM
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Good luck with this. You were making 300 whp right? I'm sure that consisted of full exhaust, custom tune and may e some other mods. Your car is going to be exposed to oil temps that a stock STI wouldn't, therefor making your pick up tube get exposed to high temps aswell. Id you had suspension mods and wheel/ tire mods there is also more vibrations coming throughout your car. Heating and cooling your pick up tube plus added vibrations will crack it eventually. My .02
06-07-2012, 12:52 PM
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You guys all understand this does happen to stock Subaru's right?
It has nothing to do with mods, oil temps, or what ever. They brazed the parts together wrong. Too much heat and caused the parts to turn brittle.
I highly recommend anyone driving a Subaru to replace their oem unit out.
It has nothing to do with mods, oil temps, or what ever. They brazed the parts together wrong. Too much heat and caused the parts to turn brittle.
I highly recommend anyone driving a Subaru to replace their oem unit out.
06-07-2012, 12:53 PM
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That sounds a little crazy, eh?
Kinda like people that get a paper-cut at work, then go on disability for 10 years making more than their standard salary..
It's ridiculous and I'm telling you, if you try and "fight" this out with Subaru, you WILL lose, I promise. Chalk it up to a loss, a learning experiment, w/e you wanna call it and move on.
06-07-2012, 12:56 PM
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You guys all understand this does happen to stock Subaru's right?
It has nothing to do with mods, oil temps, or what ever. They brazed the parts together wrong. Too much heat and caused the parts to turn brittle.
I highly recommend anyone driving a Subaru to replace their oem unit out.
It has nothing to do with mods, oil temps, or what ever. They brazed the parts together wrong. Too much heat and caused the parts to turn brittle.
I highly recommend anyone driving a Subaru to replace their oem unit out.
The parts failed on an illegally modified car, as soon as this fact is noticed the case is throw out. If the situation were for this part to fail on a bone stock, low mileage, all maintenance maintained car w/ receipts to prove, that MAY be a different story.. too bad it's not this story.
06-07-2012, 01:01 PM
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No, you are wrong.
The parts failed on an illegally modified car, as soon as this fact is noticed the case is throw out. If the situation were for this part to fail on a bone stock, low mileage, all maintenance maintained car w/ receipts to prove, that MAY be a different story.. too bad it's not this story.
The parts failed on an illegally modified car, as soon as this fact is noticed the case is throw out. If the situation were for this part to fail on a bone stock, low mileage, all maintenance maintained car w/ receipts to prove, that MAY be a different story.. too bad it's not this story.
That also proves that the mods had nothing to do with the failure. A last ditch effort to derail would be if the oil pan had ever been removed before the failure.
There have been many failed parts on OEM bone stock cars. Just like the cracking pistons.
I'm just playing the devils side of things. My car only has one part left that is not stock. I roll that into a dealer for a repair, They would just laugh, then want to go for a ride.
06-07-2012, 01:08 PM
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And testimony from some schn00b hobbyist vs that of engineers and trained technicians who fix cars every day. What do you think holds more water?
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06-07-2012, 01:49 PM
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Statistics and Subarus own internal reports.
Which can be subpoenaed.
And bringing in a engineer with a background of failure analysis.
It can be done. Not said cheap.
Which can be subpoenaed.
And bringing in a engineer with a background of failure analysis.
It can be done. Not said cheap.
06-07-2012, 02:04 PM
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You could try to invoke the Magunson Moss Act, which basically says it's on the car company to show that the failure is a direct result of your modifications if they want to deny warranty. But with an engine compenent failure on a highly modified engine, that's gonna be a long shot
06-07-2012, 02:30 PM
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You could try to invoke the Magunson Moss Act, which basically says it's on the car company to show that the failure is a direct result of your modifications if they want to deny warranty. But with an engine compenent failure on a highly modified engine, that's gonna be a long shot
06-07-2012, 02:56 PM
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Dude, come on. You will be wasting your money for zero return.
1. The pickup tube failed on a illegaly "modified car"
2. A pickup tube is bound to fail, crack, chip, or deteriorate when you run your motor hard, and or high/hot oil temps.
3. I understand this cost you your motor bro, but this is just a lose-lose battle that in the long run, will end up costing you much, much more than either a rebuild, or selling what is left of the car and buying something else.
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1. The pickup tube failed on a illegaly "modified car"
2. A pickup tube is bound to fail, crack, chip, or deteriorate when you run your motor hard, and or high/hot oil temps.
3. I understand this cost you your motor bro, but this is just a lose-lose battle that in the long run, will end up costing you much, much more than either a rebuild, or selling what is left of the car and buying something else.
..For Real.
06-07-2012, 03:04 PM
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YOU decided to mod your car, take it past the specs of what Subaru made the car for, things on the car broke, those things that broke resulted in your engine failing, and now you want Subaru to pay for it...
That sounds a little crazy, eh?
Kinda like people that get a paper-cut at work, then go on disability for 10 years making more than their standard salary..
It's ridiculous and I'm telling you, if you try and "fight" this out with Subaru, you WILL lose, I promise. Chalk it up to a loss, a learning experiment, w/e you wanna call it and move on.
That sounds a little crazy, eh?
Kinda like people that get a paper-cut at work, then go on disability for 10 years making more than their standard salary..
It's ridiculous and I'm telling you, if you try and "fight" this out with Subaru, you WILL lose, I promise. Chalk it up to a loss, a learning experiment, w/e you wanna call it and move on.