I'm quitting on my 02 wrx,need help.
 

Hello,

So I bought my wrx in 09, loved the car but upgraded to a sti a year later.
My mom wanted the wrx so I gave it to her, everyone used the car. Now the car is having problems so it's mine again 😁.
I don't have time or the money to fix it so now I just want to get rid off it.
I know the problems are misfire on all 4 cylinders and I'm getting pffff or ppfff on the access port, can't remember exactly. It also has the check engine flashing.

What can I do to sell the car? I'm sure in California i can't sell it with out smoging it. The car is registered till may 2017.


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Maybe sell it as a non op car? Don't think you gotta deal with smog that way

Just sell it "as is" and make sure thats noted on your bill of sale, then no need to smog.

Get it sold then fill out the dmv release of liability online right after.

/ done

This would be a nice rally car after a motor build or swap

Ugh, I need to do this :( But mine runs.

[QUOTE=stg2lgcy00;3645861]Just sell it "as is" and make sure thats noted on your bill of sale, then no need to smog.

Get it sold then fill out the dmv release of liability online right after.

/ done[/QUOTE]

[B][U]That is absolutely false[/U][/B]. Unless a car is sold as non-op, Smog is the seller's responsibility. The state does not recognize the "as is" someone writes on a napkin as superseding law

Thanks guy, I'm going to look into selling it non op.

[QUOTE=Lowend;3645876][B][U]That is absolutely false[/U][/B]. Unless a car is sold as non-op, Smog is the seller's responsibility. The state does not recognize the "as is" someone writes on a napkin as superseding law[/QUOTE]

I guess if its false then its news to me, sold cars before like that and outlined everything for the buyer clear as day / documented, and made sure they understood. Never had a problem.

Sounds like selling it non op is the way to go.

[QUOTE=Lowend;3645876][B][U]That is absolutely false[/U][/B]. Unless a car is sold as non-op, Smog is the seller's responsibility. The state does not recognize the "as is" someone writes on a napkin as superseding law[/QUOTE]

Yep!

You sell a car in CA, even if you state on the bill of sale "as-is" it is NOT "as-is". You as the prior owner are on the hook for smog, and can be forced to pay for it, even sued for selling a car that won't pass smog/bad engine/etc...

[QUOTE=sigma pi;3645866]Ugh, I need to do this :( But mine runs.[/QUOTE]

Me too and to that end, my car is @RBMS getting a PPI right now.

[QUOTE=stg2lgcy00;3645879]I guess if its false then its news to me, sold cars before like that and outlined everything for the buyer clear as day / documented, and made sure they understood. Never had a problem.

Sounds like selling it non op is the way to go.[/QUOTE]

He's correct. It is absolutely the sellers responsibility to provide a valid smog certificate for registration. I have bought and sold around 40 cars over the years and frequently deal with someone who insists that it's not their responsibility to smog the car. I only purchase the car when the "gamble" is worth the low price. People I have bought cars from have also "never had a problem" because I always handle all of the problems, so that I can register the car.

"As-is" generally refers to a warranty or not - it's like saying "look the car over, once you buy it, it's yours" which has nothing to do with smog.

You can sell it and make an agreement between buyer/seller that explicitly states that the buyer is willing to accept the car without the smog, and that is fine. You can work this into the bill of sale (which is more or less what I thought you were saying but was not sure).

Also, what Overbear mentions is correct as well and I have heard of cases where a dealer even sold a car w/out a smog and the buyer was able to get a full refund and walk away from the car because of this. You cannot register a car without a smog cert, so, someone has to deal with it. CA tries to make it so that in most cases, you should not have any issue registering your car, with a smog cert.

[QUOTE=wombatsauce;3645926]You can sell it and make an agreement between buyer/seller that explicitly states that the buyer is willing to accept the car without the smog, and that is fine. You can work this into the bill of sale (which is more or less what I thought you were saying but was not sure).[/QUOTE]

Yup thats what I meant :thumb: