Is 'debadging' illegal?

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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Is 'debadging' illegal?

Just wondering.... Everything cool seems to be illegal these days . I don't want to give a cop an easy reason to pull me over. I know tons of people do it, never heard of someone getting nabbed for it etc but...never know.
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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I dont think its Illegal, if it was i think i would have been pulled over numerous times already
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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no it's not illegal. Unless debadging added 20WHP then it would be illegal.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Debadging, while not illegal alone, does present an officer with probable cause to search your car for illegal modifications under the hood. Other examples of probable cause...

- Stickers (yes, an i-Club sticker counts)
- Window tint (even if it's stock)
- Hood scoop (even if it's stock)
- Non-stock wheels
- Wing (STi wing, not so much a WRX wing)
- Lowered stance and other visible suspension modifications (got pink or blue?)
- Extra gauges
- Carbon fiber

All of these came from my uncle who is a Union City PD officer
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by psoper
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Um, this is what *ALL* cities look for. So...

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stay the f out of cities
^^ fixed
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Just a question, but how is pulling someone over for illegal mods based on a sticker fly constitutionally??

I mean, doesn't California have some of the highest murder rate cities(Oakland made #6 IIRC), Drug, and gang issues? How is this not seen as a huge waste of money and manpower that could be used towards...Oh I don't know getting real criminals off the street or building more prisons or something that actually benifits the populace? Then again I guess it's easier(and more profitable) to harrass auto enthusiasts than arrest MS-13 members.
Sorry I guess this falls more in the POL forum..
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Ooops..
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Originally Posted by Tizzo27
Just a question, but how is pulling someone over for illegal mods based on a sticker fly constitutionally??
It's called "probable cause". It is perfectly legal and constitutional to conduct a search based on probable cause. It's the same as if a cop sees what appears to be part of a crack pipe poking out from under your car seat and searches the car.

Originally Posted by Tizzo27
I mean, doesn't California have some of the highest murder rate cities(Oakland made #6 IIRC), Drug, and gang issues? How is this not seen as a huge waste of money and manpower that could be used towards...Oh I don't know getting real criminals off the street or building more prisons or something that actually benifits the populace? Then again I guess it's easier(and more profitable) to harrass auto enthusiasts than arrest MS-13 members.
Sorry I guess this falls more in the POL forum..
That's a good point. Unfortunately, enough of those deaths and crimes come back to street racing to cause law enforcement to crack down on anything and everything related to street racing, including modifying a car, legally or not. I'm not saying it's right, in fact, I think it's wrong and that the time could be better spent.

There are those who modify their car (illegally sometimes) and do nothing but race on the streets. But there are those of us who modify our cars to do better in things like autocross, rallycross, track days, etc. Law enforcement has a single track mind, if a car is modified, it was modified for street racing.

Any outward sign of possible illegal modification is more than enough reason for a search of the engine bay. Yes, the engine bay, nothing else. They can't search your glove box if you have an i-Club sticker.
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Originally Posted by pwn
Just wondering.... Everything cool seems to be illegal these days . I don't want to give a cop an easy reason to pull me over. I know tons of people do it, never heard of someone getting nabbed for it etc but...never know.
What kind of retarded question is that?? If you're really that paranoid then don't do it.



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