10% off fathers day sale at AIM SURPLUS! (Mags, receivers, AR-15s)
06-19-2009, 10:25 PM
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10% off fathers day sale at AIM SURPLUS! (Mags, receivers, AR-15s)
With gun prices higher then they have ever been with no sign of relief, any little bit helps, and 10% helps A LOT when everything is so damn pricey.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/F...009_Sale_.html
This is perfect for you guys buying AR parts or lower receivers... They have some really good prices on their ammo and such too, I usually always buy my ammo at www.aimsurplus.com . Their ammo inventory varies from week to week and all depends on what they get shipped to them, so sometimes they have all the pistol ammo you can buy, and other times all the rifle ammo you can buy... and sometimes even both! I've bought some of the BEST .223 that money can buy from them at a price that was cheaper then walmart's regular price for .223! Now they have one penny shipping which lowers the cost even more! I used to have to split giant orders with friends to save on shipping, now we dont have to worry about it! You have no idea how much that rocks, especially when you buy in bulk!
I know it's not the world, but it's enough to save you some coin especially if you buy in bulk which is the way to do it, especially right now while you can still buy these type of things, don't wait until your right is taken away from you like it was in 1999 (Jan 1st 2000) when the lame *** assault weapons ban went into effect and took our right of owning "real" rifles away from us
Although it's not in effect in other states, it's still alive and kicking in CA, and with new politicians in office we'll see much more banning and stricter laws preventing us from buying anything cool. I hate the fact that a lot of rifles are banned because they look evil. I'm not kidding, there are rifles banned because they are "black" and look evil. That's where the nick name "Evil black rifles" came from. It's funny that puny AR-15's that shoot TINY little bullets are banned, yet hunting rifles that shoot BIG HUGE bullets with deadly accuracy which are made to bring down big game animals are perfectly legal because they don't have evil characteristics which are mostly asthetic features like being black and having something like a pistol grip. Having a pistol grip is a huge deal with law makers, they think that a pistol grip makes the rifle more dangerous because you can shoot from the hip! If you shoot from the hip you're probably an idiot or your imitating an idiot for show. Anyone who knows anything about shooting knows that if you shoot from the hip with a rifle you're not going to hit ANYTHING (well, anything you're aiming at). Show me one sharp shooter or sniper that has even shot at anything he/she intends on killing by shooting from the hip. Why would they ban something like that? It's simple, it's because people who don't know anything about guns look at rifles like the AR-15 and think it's evil because of the way it looks (Black and has a pistol grip which people are scared of for some reason). They way you can buy a legal AR-15 is by removing the pistol grip and adding a bullet button! How friggin stupid is that!? Because it has a feature that makes the rifle less accurate and more difficult to use correctly, the rifle is banned! Does that make sense to you? Lets be glad that the M1A doesn't have a pistol grip and that it's still legal!. Thats a perfect example! An M1A is so much more deadly then an AR-15 could ever imagine to be, yet it doesn't have a pistol grip! It's mind boggling isn't it? Yeah, well you can thank law makers for making a law thats totally idiotic and makes no sense. Lets use the pictures below:
AR-15 that shoots a .223 round which is really, really small. You have to be really accurate to bring down a large target. The round is effective, but it's really small so it's affected by wind very easily, and like I said, you need to be really accurate to bring down a large target (by bring down I mean kill). Even the armor piercing .223 rounds wont go through a half inch of steel plate, it will make a nice dent in it, but wont go through it at all, I've tried with my own rifles and ammo. Here's a picture of it, notice how "evil" it looks:
DSC01038.jpg?t=1245474138
And here we have an M1A, also known as the M14. This rifle shoots the infamous 7.62xNATO (AKA .308). Compared to the .223 round that the AR-15 shoots, the .308 round is a heavy weight champion fighter. This round is devastating to anything it touches. It's much larger/heavier and will punch through a half inch of steel like it's hot butter, and that's a NON armor piercing round! We shot a round of .308 at a ONE INCH steel plate and the round penetrated right through it, remember how the AR-15 couldn't even go through a half inch steel plate with armor piercing rounds? This rifle shoots VERY accurately and is the choice of many snipers, the .308 round has been the choice of sniper rounds for ages (until recent times when newer and more accurate rounds have transpired, but .308 is still very accurate). Lets take a look at the evil M1A. Keep in mind that this rifle hasn't been banned or touched by law makers, yet the AR-15 has been raped and almost murdered by law makers because of how it looks!
What would you rather get shot by? An evil looking AR-15, or a mellow looking M1A? Sure, the AR-15 is very intimidating, but it doesn't have the ***** to back up it's hype, much like a lot of humans, lol. Yet somehow the really powerful rifles that will do maximum damage aren't banned because they don't look evil, makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
Here's a rifle even more powerful then an M1A, so powerful that it will go through cars like soup! This shoots .338 lapua which is an amazingly powerful round! It's even more devastating then .50cal in certain situations. This rifle is so much more powerful then an AR-15 that it's hard to wrap your head around. If you shot at a house, it would not only go through every single wall of the house and exit the other side, but it would probably go through a few more houses until it stopped on something steel. As powerful as this rifle is, you can probably go to Big-5 tomorrow morning and buy one and no one will even bat an eye. When you tell someone you have a hunting rifle like this, they don't even think about it, but if you tell someone you have an AR-15 or AK-47 they get scared and look at you differently. Why is that? Why are people more scared of the pea shooting AR-15 then they are of a simple hunting rifle like pictured below? Which would you rather take a target out with? The answer is easy.
Keep in mind that each rifle has it's purpose, the AR-15 uses small bullets that are light weight so our soldiers can carry more ammo with them and have more shots in case they miss and such. It's a good rifle for certain things, but it lacks power. The M1A uses bigger bullets and still has high capacity, the only downfall is the weigh, it's much heavier then an AR-15, but if thats a problem for you, you're probably a keyboard weight lifter.
In short, our law makers are ridiculous and they make no sense. Buy while you still can because your rights will be taken away in the future! That's not some prediction fueled by my paranoia, it's fact set in concrete. Everyone is jealous of the fact that I bought my guns before the ban of 2000, I get all the goodies and get to use all the goody parts like high cap mags and such, they don't get anything but a lame *** bullet button.
Don't let this happen to you!
Sorry for the rant, but once I started I couldn't stop. Jump on this while you can, all you have to do it buy the lower receiver since thats what is considered the actual gun, you don't have to build the rest of the rifle for years and years (until you have money or you're ready). Just sit on the receiver until you have the money to build it. I sat on one of my lower receivers for 5 years before I built it up into a full rifle! As long as you have that little part, you're officially a gun owner even though it doesn't resemble anything that could be considered a gun. It's cheap/affordable, so you have no excuse!
<----- Your resident gun activist
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/F...009_Sale_.html
This is perfect for you guys buying AR parts or lower receivers... They have some really good prices on their ammo and such too, I usually always buy my ammo at www.aimsurplus.com . Their ammo inventory varies from week to week and all depends on what they get shipped to them, so sometimes they have all the pistol ammo you can buy, and other times all the rifle ammo you can buy... and sometimes even both! I've bought some of the BEST .223 that money can buy from them at a price that was cheaper then walmart's regular price for .223! Now they have one penny shipping which lowers the cost even more! I used to have to split giant orders with friends to save on shipping, now we dont have to worry about it! You have no idea how much that rocks, especially when you buy in bulk!
I know it's not the world, but it's enough to save you some coin especially if you buy in bulk which is the way to do it, especially right now while you can still buy these type of things, don't wait until your right is taken away from you like it was in 1999 (Jan 1st 2000) when the lame *** assault weapons ban went into effect and took our right of owning "real" rifles away from us
Although it's not in effect in other states, it's still alive and kicking in CA, and with new politicians in office we'll see much more banning and stricter laws preventing us from buying anything cool. I hate the fact that a lot of rifles are banned because they look evil. I'm not kidding, there are rifles banned because they are "black" and look evil. That's where the nick name "Evil black rifles" came from. It's funny that puny AR-15's that shoot TINY little bullets are banned, yet hunting rifles that shoot BIG HUGE bullets with deadly accuracy which are made to bring down big game animals are perfectly legal because they don't have evil characteristics which are mostly asthetic features like being black and having something like a pistol grip. Having a pistol grip is a huge deal with law makers, they think that a pistol grip makes the rifle more dangerous because you can shoot from the hip! If you shoot from the hip you're probably an idiot or your imitating an idiot for show. Anyone who knows anything about shooting knows that if you shoot from the hip with a rifle you're not going to hit ANYTHING (well, anything you're aiming at). Show me one sharp shooter or sniper that has even shot at anything he/she intends on killing by shooting from the hip. Why would they ban something like that? It's simple, it's because people who don't know anything about guns look at rifles like the AR-15 and think it's evil because of the way it looks (Black and has a pistol grip which people are scared of for some reason). They way you can buy a legal AR-15 is by removing the pistol grip and adding a bullet button! How friggin stupid is that!? Because it has a feature that makes the rifle less accurate and more difficult to use correctly, the rifle is banned! Does that make sense to you? Lets be glad that the M1A doesn't have a pistol grip and that it's still legal!. Thats a perfect example! An M1A is so much more deadly then an AR-15 could ever imagine to be, yet it doesn't have a pistol grip! It's mind boggling isn't it? Yeah, well you can thank law makers for making a law thats totally idiotic and makes no sense. Lets use the pictures below:AR-15 that shoots a .223 round which is really, really small. You have to be really accurate to bring down a large target. The round is effective, but it's really small so it's affected by wind very easily, and like I said, you need to be really accurate to bring down a large target (by bring down I mean kill). Even the armor piercing .223 rounds wont go through a half inch of steel plate, it will make a nice dent in it, but wont go through it at all, I've tried with my own rifles and ammo. Here's a picture of it, notice how "evil" it looks:
DSC01038.jpg?t=1245474138
And here we have an M1A, also known as the M14. This rifle shoots the infamous 7.62xNATO (AKA .308). Compared to the .223 round that the AR-15 shoots, the .308 round is a heavy weight champion fighter. This round is devastating to anything it touches. It's much larger/heavier and will punch through a half inch of steel like it's hot butter, and that's a NON armor piercing round! We shot a round of .308 at a ONE INCH steel plate and the round penetrated right through it, remember how the AR-15 couldn't even go through a half inch steel plate with armor piercing rounds? This rifle shoots VERY accurately and is the choice of many snipers, the .308 round has been the choice of sniper rounds for ages (until recent times when newer and more accurate rounds have transpired, but .308 is still very accurate). Lets take a look at the evil M1A. Keep in mind that this rifle hasn't been banned or touched by law makers, yet the AR-15 has been raped and almost murdered by law makers because of how it looks!
What would you rather get shot by? An evil looking AR-15, or a mellow looking M1A? Sure, the AR-15 is very intimidating, but it doesn't have the ***** to back up it's hype, much like a lot of humans, lol. Yet somehow the really powerful rifles that will do maximum damage aren't banned because they don't look evil, makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
Here's a rifle even more powerful then an M1A, so powerful that it will go through cars like soup! This shoots .338 lapua which is an amazingly powerful round! It's even more devastating then .50cal in certain situations. This rifle is so much more powerful then an AR-15 that it's hard to wrap your head around. If you shot at a house, it would not only go through every single wall of the house and exit the other side, but it would probably go through a few more houses until it stopped on something steel. As powerful as this rifle is, you can probably go to Big-5 tomorrow morning and buy one and no one will even bat an eye. When you tell someone you have a hunting rifle like this, they don't even think about it, but if you tell someone you have an AR-15 or AK-47 they get scared and look at you differently. Why is that? Why are people more scared of the pea shooting AR-15 then they are of a simple hunting rifle like pictured below? Which would you rather take a target out with? The answer is easy.
Keep in mind that each rifle has it's purpose, the AR-15 uses small bullets that are light weight so our soldiers can carry more ammo with them and have more shots in case they miss and such. It's a good rifle for certain things, but it lacks power. The M1A uses bigger bullets and still has high capacity, the only downfall is the weigh, it's much heavier then an AR-15, but if thats a problem for you, you're probably a keyboard weight lifter.
In short, our law makers are ridiculous and they make no sense. Buy while you still can because your rights will be taken away in the future! That's not some prediction fueled by my paranoia, it's fact set in concrete. Everyone is jealous of the fact that I bought my guns before the ban of 2000, I get all the goodies and get to use all the goody parts like high cap mags and such, they don't get anything but a lame *** bullet button.
Don't let this happen to you! Sorry for the rant, but once I started I couldn't stop.
Jump on this while you can, all you have to do it buy the lower receiver since thats what is considered the actual gun, you don't have to build the rest of the rifle for years and years (until you have money or you're ready). Just sit on the receiver until you have the money to build it. I sat on one of my lower receivers for 5 years before I built it up into a full rifle! As long as you have that little part, you're officially a gun owner even though it doesn't resemble anything that could be considered a gun. It's cheap/affordable, so you have no excuse! <----- Your resident gun activist
06-20-2009, 12:12 AM
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Lucky for me none of that stuff is mine, just pics I took off google cuz I didn't have any pics of mine handy.
I prefer my women without carpet, the bare floor is much nicer.
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*looks at the lower receivers* I've actually wanted to build an AR for a while now.. I think you have to buy the CA legal specific one, that has a fixed magazine?
06-20-2009, 12:37 AM
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It's really easy to change it back to a regular button, so if SHTF you can change it back. You're only allowed to use 10 round mags, but it's still a normal AR so it will take high caps in case you go out of state to shoot or something.
Best of luck!
Also, Congrats enkeiandmore
06-20-2009, 12:58 AM
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hey brucie, i think i've finally decided on an upper...after like 3 months of picking and choosing lol.
noveske is out of my budget, but yankee hill can fit right in shortly
noveske is out of my budget, but yankee hill can fit right in shortly
06-20-2009, 01:17 AM
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That's VERY nice, but a suggestion I'll make to EVERY AR-15 owner!
If you're going to spend money on a new upper receiver, go the extra mile and get a piston driven upper instead of the traditional gas system! It's the new way to go and so much more reliable because there's no fouling due to the gas! I wish I could redo all my AR uppers to the piston type VS the traditional gas type.
It's more expensive and not as readily available, but only became main stream not too long ago. It basically mimics a much more modern AK-47 receiver action, though it's far from it, it's the best way to describe it in short. Trust me on this!!!
Very quick example that I pulled off google, first link listed:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-piston-ar-15/
If you're going to spend money on a new upper receiver, go the extra mile and get a piston driven upper instead of the traditional gas system! It's the new way to go and so much more reliable because there's no fouling due to the gas! I wish I could redo all my AR uppers to the piston type VS the traditional gas type.
It's more expensive and not as readily available, but only became main stream not too long ago. It basically mimics a much more modern AK-47 receiver action, though it's far from it, it's the best way to describe it in short. Trust me on this!!!
Very quick example that I pulled off google, first link listed:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-piston-ar-15/
06-20-2009, 09:25 AM
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Yeah, they are but its worth it...
But yeah, your upper is REALLY nice, really beautiful, looks like it's going to rape your family or something... Just naturally bad *** looking. It's like a longer version of mine, so be prepared for it to be MUCH heavier then the regular AR-15 uppers.
Here's my AR with a 16" barrel:
The forward pistol grip is a surefire forward pistol grip light that has a pressure switch and regular switch. The light is 180 lumen (IIRC) and it also has a REALLY bright green laser that is so bright that you can actually use it as a flashlight in the dark because it lights up a room. Anyone on the receiving end of that ;laser is instantly blinded, then they get a dose of the actual bright xenon flashlight!
That rifle is a bushmaster lower with a rock river arms upper (Rock River Arms is my fav AR maker, they are absolutely awesome in every way). The rifle has served me really well over the years, I've had it for 10 years now and it still almost looks new thanks to how I treat it and care for it. It's an AR-15, so naturally you need to take care of it really well or you'll come up short when shooting.
So yeah, that upper is awesome because you can do anything to it! You can add any accessory and the recoil is lower with no muzzle rise thanks to the weight up front. I'm a big guy so the size/weight doesn't bother me, but I can see it bothering a small woman, otherwise it's no problem. The M1A in the pic however is a HEAVY beast, like double of the AR-15!
Thats that.
PS: That's a bushnell holosight which is basically an eotech but designed with a lower profile, but the guts are the same and its made by the same company IIRC. It has like 18 brightness settings (same as the eotech) and works REALLY well. It's affordable too.
But yeah, your upper is REALLY nice, really beautiful, looks like it's going to rape your family or something... Just naturally bad *** looking.
It's like a longer version of mine, so be prepared for it to be MUCH heavier then the regular AR-15 uppers. Here's my AR with a 16" barrel:
The forward pistol grip is a surefire forward pistol grip light that has a pressure switch and regular switch. The light is 180 lumen (IIRC) and it also has a REALLY bright green laser that is so bright that you can actually use it as a flashlight in the dark because it lights up a room. Anyone on the receiving end of that ;laser is instantly blinded, then they get a dose of the actual bright xenon flashlight!
That rifle is a bushmaster lower with a rock river arms upper (Rock River Arms is my fav AR maker, they are absolutely awesome in every way). The rifle has served me really well over the years, I've had it for 10 years now and it still almost looks new thanks to how I treat it and care for it. It's an AR-15, so naturally you need to take care of it really well or you'll come up short when shooting.
So yeah, that upper is awesome because you can do anything to it! You can add any accessory and the recoil is lower with no muzzle rise thanks to the weight up front. I'm a big guy so the size/weight doesn't bother me, but I can see it bothering a small woman, otherwise it's no problem. The M1A in the pic however is a HEAVY beast, like double of the AR-15!
Thats that.
PS: That's a bushnell holosight which is basically an eotech but designed with a lower profile, but the guts are the same and its made by the same company IIRC. It has like 18 brightness settings (same as the eotech) and works REALLY well. It's affordable too.
06-20-2009, 05:05 PM
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oops i was mistaken. i meant this one.
16" can't find anything for a decent price at 14.5" + permamuzzlebreak.
only 4.4lbs for an upper. it's not bad.
i function checked my lower. everything works fine. slapped on my friend's oly arms upper and fired a few rounds through it. now the waiting game...
16" can't find anything for a decent price at 14.5" + permamuzzlebreak.
only 4.4lbs for an upper. it's not bad.
i function checked my lower. everything works fine. slapped on my friend's oly arms upper and fired a few rounds through it. now the waiting game...
06-21-2009, 09:45 AM
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You dont want anything shorter then 16", the bullet wont gain enough velocity to fragment upon impact due to the short barrel. Trust me, I did a physics experiment at school about this very subject! Anything under 16" wont perform as well as something above 16".
I almost got a 14.5 with muzzle brake before I heard about this, then I did an experiment and got more info from experts, turns out it was true.
I dont know why our swat guys use short M4s, maybe because they are CQC and dont need the bullet to fragment?
I almost got a 14.5 with muzzle brake before I heard about this, then I did an experiment and got more info from experts, turns out it was true.
I dont know why our swat guys use short M4s, maybe because they are CQC and dont need the bullet to fragment?