Greddy T518Z or VF22?
08-19-2004, 02:40 AM
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VF22, its cheaper and offers pretty much the same power. Besides the Greddy turbo is oil cooled only. A better comparison would be a PE1818/PE1820. And I'd still take one of those over the Greddy turbo.
08-19-2004, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lurk
VF22, its cheaper and offers pretty much the same power. Besides the Greddy turbo is oil cooled only. A better comparison would be a PE1818/PE1820. And I'd still take one of those over the Greddy turbo.
but get the 22, mine is factory just as it comes new, and its not that laggy.. but it brings power up to redline and can handle more boost than a 30/34
09-12-2004, 09:36 AM
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I've got the same dilemma. Debating between the 18G and VF-22. The 18g is oil and water cooled, spools faster and can hold boost better from what I understand.
I, living in Socal, am only able get 91 octane, so the question is whether I'd ever feel any performance difference that is worth shelling out almost twice as much for the 18G ($1050) when compared to the VF-22 ($600). This car is also my daily driver, so lets be realistic and not compare top performance on race gas between the two. In the real world, which one is better??
I, living in Socal, am only able get 91 octane, so the question is whether I'd ever feel any performance difference that is worth shelling out almost twice as much for the 18G ($1050) when compared to the VF-22 ($600). This car is also my daily driver, so lets be realistic and not compare top performance on race gas between the two. In the real world, which one is better??
10-12-2004, 08:35 PM
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In my opinion you cant even compare an 18G vs a VF22, an 18G is a 600cfm turbo that still spools faster than the 460cfm VF22, and yes you can get them in water/oil cooled, if anything you should compare the VF22 to a small 16G, though the 16G will still blow the VF22 away and by all acounts spools as fast or faster than a VF30 on a 2 liter, and you can get them for about $750
As for octane, well thats going to handicap any turbo you choose, but the 18G or 16G will still make more power on 91oct than a 22
As for octane, well thats going to handicap any turbo you choose, but the 18G or 16G will still make more power on 91oct than a 22
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10-14-2004, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Imprezer
VF22 is great for the $.
HKS GT-RS kit is what I would get. It is more expensive, but oh well.
HKS GT-RS kit is what I would get. It is more expensive, but oh well.
10-14-2004, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Mmm, Disco Potato... I want that on an EJ257.
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10-18-2004, 01:05 PM
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I don't think that anyone would disagree about the 18G being superior to the VF 22, but how much of a difference is there really???? I'm not one to say as I have only driven the VF22 and a 1820. The 1820 was a much more responsive turbo, but I was unable to "feel" much of a difference between the two once both had spooled up. The point would be that on crappy 91 octane, and limited to 17-19 psi, there just isn't a HUGE difference. On race gas, the tables obviously turn, as the VF 22 cannot compete with the 18G, 20G, or any PE turbo at that. So the main factor when deciding between these monsters would be the amount of time you plan on spending while sipping/filling up with 101 or C16. I'm leaning towards the VF22 myself, as I don't do much autocrossing or canyon driving. Bodyshops are just too expensive to visit every time you loose it on some sand, loose gravel, while avoiding an animal or loose rock, or just swiping cars parked on badly lit/blind turns. Also, the toll of autocrossing on your car is much worse. New brake pads, rotors and tires are a must after every couple of trips.
Drag strips are much safer, that's an opinion and many may disagree, and only a fraction of what it costs to run a street course, but that (drag), along with the ocassional street/freeway straight line chase are the most common workouts my car gets. Furthermore, how can you argue the cost difference between the two??? Please feel free to comment or respond, as I haven't yet purchased my turbo, and I'm always hoping to hear some good advice.
Drag strips are much safer, that's an opinion and many may disagree, and only a fraction of what it costs to run a street course, but that (drag), along with the ocassional street/freeway straight line chase are the most common workouts my car gets. Furthermore, how can you argue the cost difference between the two??? Please feel free to comment or respond, as I haven't yet purchased my turbo, and I'm always hoping to hear some good advice.
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04-02-2005, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by silentbob343
Sorry to dig up a dead thread, but what is the difference between the PE 1818 and the FP 18G?
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Thanks for the info. Now, what type of performace difference are we talking about between these two turbos? I know the PE1818 is a ball bearing turbo, but is the TD05-18G ball bearing as well? Do these two turbos use the same housing, TD05, and just different turbines?
DeadBolt sells a TD05-18G, aka Zilla, and the a PE1818 "clone", aka Kong. Most places sell the PE1818 for $1500. The Kong even comes with one of their "monster port jobs" for only $1295, of course they call it a clone.
Zilla-18G
oil cooled-$995
oil and water-$1195
Kong-PE1818
Oil cooled-$1295
They also sell the FP Green, aka Superzilla. What is the difference between the TD06H and TD06-FP green turbine housing?
http://www.boostplanet.com/product.htm
I also have replied to another turbo thread in the STi forum with regards to how these turbos would perform with the STi engine. Please feel free to stop over there and answer those questions.
https://www.i-club.com/forums/engine-power-ej25t-sti-2006-wrx-90/pe1820-sti-94358/
Thanks for the info. Now, what type of performace difference are we talking about between these two turbos? I know the PE1818 is a ball bearing turbo, but is the TD05-18G ball bearing as well? Do these two turbos use the same housing, TD05, and just different turbines?
DeadBolt sells a TD05-18G, aka Zilla, and the a PE1818 "clone", aka Kong. Most places sell the PE1818 for $1500. The Kong even comes with one of their "monster port jobs" for only $1295, of course they call it a clone.
Zilla-18G
oil cooled-$995
oil and water-$1195
Kong-PE1818
Oil cooled-$1295
They also sell the FP Green, aka Superzilla. What is the difference between the TD06H and TD06-FP green turbine housing?
http://www.boostplanet.com/product.htm
I also have replied to another turbo thread in the STi forum with regards to how these turbos would perform with the STi engine. Please feel free to stop over there and answer those questions.
https://www.i-club.com/forums/engine-power-ej25t-sti-2006-wrx-90/pe1820-sti-94358/