SpeedTrialUSA July 5-6, 2008 Streets of Willow Full Course Counter and Clockwise
3rd gear i think i got faster . need timing...
i think i grew a few more white hairs when my instructor went WOT 4th gear over the crest into the chicane
well i will say on the tires i didnt suffer from much or any understeer at all unless i cooked a turn
thanks to victor for the alignment even tho my bolts weren't torqued down
mazdas are fun to drive just really ****ty to work on
thanks to victor for the alignment even tho my bolts weren't torqued down

mazdas are fun to drive just really ****ty to work on
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After getting a chance to look at the video. There are a couple of problems here and it is not on Eddie's part
If you notice in the beginning of the video there is a black flag being dropped for the cars in front of Lawson.

Here are the cars in question to why the black flag was out

again the two miatas are tight with each other as they passed another black flag. It's hard to tell which one has a black flag at this point

now they are both entering the bowl being chased down by the Lawson and the Rabbit

Lawson gets passed by the rabbit and makes his or her presence known to Eddie. As I said in the beginning "expect a pass anywhere"

The Rabbit managed to carry lots of speed over Eddie and he then drove off line waiting for the pass even though its a no pass zone. But please keep in mind what I said earlier, "expect a pass"

The picture above illustrates points of view. What I am thinking is Eddie was waiting for the Rabbit to pass but he didn't which is why Eddie is off line.

The Rabbit didn't go for it when he made his presence known, He should have stuck with it.
Bottom line is Eddie was driving slow, but from what I saw and know of during this session, its because of the car in front of him. The car in front of him (red Miata) had a black flag thrown from the start which is why the pace and speeds were off to begin with.
As we all found out after the session was over. We had to bump Thi off our run group in advanced for not pitting in due to the black flag. From talking with her, she did notice the flag, but she did not realize it was directed at her, she thought it was for the person behind her. This alone will have her drive off pace and not up to speed.
With my experiences with Eddie on the track, he likes to follow, not lead. With this being the first session of the day, he was following whatever Thi was doing.
I do not think he is entirely at fault for what has been claimed. There are numerous mistakes that are not only his.
Again this is what I think happened watching the vid and being aware of all the mistakes during that run since Tommy reported it to me.
Last edited by LifePlaza; Jul 9, 2008 at 02:43 PM.
eddie is incosistant if i am in the VW. the driver is going outside eddie stays online
VW is online waiting to pass after the skid pad eddie is offline on the inside
i dont think speed is a factor when a street car is going up against a race car
you are going to get passed tehy are uber fast
just stay online and facilitate the pass by lifting
then it goes back to eddie saying its your job to pass me speaking to lawson but here he is going waaay offline to help him
so the incosistancy continues
is it because he doesnt like lawson i have no clue i doubt it though
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T is on line eddie is off line he isnt doing what T is doing
eddie is incosistant if i am in the VW. the driver is going outside eddie stays online
VW is online waiting to pass after the skid pad eddie is offline on the inside
i dont think speed is a factor when a street car is going up against a race car
you are going to get passed tehy are uber fast
just stay online and facilitate the pass
eddie is incosistant if i am in the VW. the driver is going outside eddie stays online
VW is online waiting to pass after the skid pad eddie is offline on the inside
i dont think speed is a factor when a street car is going up against a race car
you are going to get passed tehy are uber fast
just stay online and facilitate the pass
Thats what I see.
the VW was putting alot of pressure on my back after he pass lawson
During the back half he made his presence as if he was gonna make a pass on me after the back straights.
I stay offline because he was making his presence on the left side in my blind spot.
It seemed to me at the time that he was making a pass.
With franco's comment "expect a pass any where" i stay offline in case the vw wanted to charge up and pass me.
FYI it had nothing to do with me not letting lawson pass.
The pro driver didn't even need me to lift to facilitate a pass. And those people did a damn good job getting around us on or off line.
So technical there are no lines.
I got nothing against lawson.. but no need come complaining that i won't let u pass.
During the back half he made his presence as if he was gonna make a pass on me after the back straights.
I stay offline because he was making his presence on the left side in my blind spot.
It seemed to me at the time that he was making a pass.
With franco's comment "expect a pass any where" i stay offline in case the vw wanted to charge up and pass me.
FYI it had nothing to do with me not letting lawson pass.
The pro driver didn't even need me to lift to facilitate a pass. And those people did a damn good job getting around us on or off line.
So technical there are no lines.
I got nothing against lawson.. but no need come complaining that i won't let u pass.
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the VW was putting alot of pressure on my back after he pass lawson
During the back half he made his presence as if he was gonna make a pass on me after the back straights.
I stay offline because he was making his presence on the left side in my blind spot.
It seemed to me at the time that he was making a pass.
With franco's comment "expect a pass any where" i stay offline in case the vw wanted to charge up and pass me.
FYI it had nothing to do with me not letting lawson pass.
The pro driver didn't even need me to lift to facilitate a pass.
During the back half he made his presence as if he was gonna make a pass on me after the back straights.
I stay offline because he was making his presence on the left side in my blind spot.
It seemed to me at the time that he was making a pass.
With franco's comment "expect a pass any where" i stay offline in case the vw wanted to charge up and pass me.
FYI it had nothing to do with me not letting lawson pass.
The pro driver didn't even need me to lift to facilitate a pass.
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If you watch the vid the Rabbit is flying in. I'm sure eddie realizes that a fast car is coming through. Do you think Thi noticed it? I don't think so. Well thats why I'm saying Eddie originally wanted to let the Rabbit pass, and the Rabbit went for it, then backed off once it was realized there is no place to pass.
Thats what I see.
Thats what I see.
he got pressured and did the wrong thing. he should have stayed online. The VW isnt going to pass in that section its a R L R with a short shoot leading up to it there is no room there
he ended up doing the opposite of what he wanted to do he held up the VW more
and it looks like he is blocking hahhaha






