Great Canadian Social Health Care!
08-20-2009, 06:39 PM
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Plus, I'm old and set in my ways...**** change.
One of the schemes stated that you could keep private plans, but, you'd be penalized X%.
But, I'd still have to pay for The Scheme.
08-21-2009, 12:39 PM
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08-23-2009, 12:29 PM
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$20/ month? Wait what? My pops and his wife pay nearly $1k/month for their coverage. He is with Kaiser I believe. Used to be around $500/mo a few years ago. I saw those bills, have not confirmed the latest. He was dropped back in '04 when a doctor diagnosed him with potential prostate cancer and had a bunch of tests done. He faught to get coverage again, and I believe Kaiser is the only one who will touch him now. He does not have prostate cancer.
The man across the street from where I lived was a professional fisherman, with his own boat, and had been running this business for many years before I met him. He was 'between coverage' whilst going to a new provider back in 1995 and had a heart attack. He has since had to sell his boat/house/everything and he and his wife are still trying to pay off the debt. The will probably die with it.
My wife has been denied health care a couple times for a pre-existing issue. She never had any issues whatsoever getting help in her home country (Sweden) and in fact saves her Dr. and dentist visits for when we go there.
I guess I could go on, and on, and on, and on, but what would the point be?
Do any of you people know any old people? Have you asked them how they are being taken care of and how happy they are with their health care? Have you thought about how you will take care of yourself when you are old and retired? I am curious is all. It's so weird hearing real life expereinces from people in my life that directly contradict what I read here on a regular basis.
That being said, for some reason, now when I call my Dr. I can see her within a couple weeks where, back in 2002-2004 when I was getting MRIs and such for a spinal issue, I could never ever see her as she was booked solid for months in advance. In 4 years of having her as my "Primary Care Physician" I never saw her once in person. I can now make an appointment and get zero care much quicker than before. I was in a car accident and was shuffled around to 4 different specialists who suggested VIOXX which I was prescribed to and stopped taking once I heard on the radio that people were dying from it, then it was suggested that I get an epidural, and finally back surgery. After tossing around and riding in a couple MRI machines, seeing physical therapists and so much other crap, simply going to a yoga class once a week has COMPLETELY erased my issues. Glad I didn't have back surgery. Ah well... We are all victims of our own perception I guess.
The man across the street from where I lived was a professional fisherman, with his own boat, and had been running this business for many years before I met him. He was 'between coverage' whilst going to a new provider back in 1995 and had a heart attack. He has since had to sell his boat/house/everything and he and his wife are still trying to pay off the debt. The will probably die with it.
My wife has been denied health care a couple times for a pre-existing issue. She never had any issues whatsoever getting help in her home country (Sweden) and in fact saves her Dr. and dentist visits for when we go there.
I guess I could go on, and on, and on, and on, but what would the point be?
Do any of you people know any old people? Have you asked them how they are being taken care of and how happy they are with their health care? Have you thought about how you will take care of yourself when you are old and retired? I am curious is all. It's so weird hearing real life expereinces from people in my life that directly contradict what I read here on a regular basis.
That being said, for some reason, now when I call my Dr. I can see her within a couple weeks where, back in 2002-2004 when I was getting MRIs and such for a spinal issue, I could never ever see her as she was booked solid for months in advance. In 4 years of having her as my "Primary Care Physician" I never saw her once in person. I can now make an appointment and get zero care much quicker than before. I was in a car accident and was shuffled around to 4 different specialists who suggested VIOXX which I was prescribed to and stopped taking once I heard on the radio that people were dying from it, then it was suggested that I get an epidural, and finally back surgery. After tossing around and riding in a couple MRI machines, seeing physical therapists and so much other crap, simply going to a yoga class once a week has COMPLETELY erased my issues. Glad I didn't have back surgery. Ah well... We are all victims of our own perception I guess.
08-23-2009, 01:47 PM
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Unless the scheme has changed, this is why I can not support BarryCare:
The current scheme being offered would have me pay for socialist health care that I would be excluded from using.
Which means I will have to keep my private health care plan.
And, I will be penalized for having my private health care plan.
How in the **** does that make any sense??
The current scheme being offered would have me pay for socialist health care that I would be excluded from using.
Which means I will have to keep my private health care plan.
And, I will be penalized for having my private health care plan.
How in the **** does that make any sense??
08-23-2009, 03:08 PM
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I think you mean supposedly
08-23-2009, 04:48 PM
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If that is REALLY how it was stated, then that is pretty dumb. Not sure how anyone would expect people to be okay with that sort of plan unless they simply were not given the information you have access to regarding the issue. I hope your comments are based on truth, since this seems to be the basis of your argument against a public plan. I personally do not know lots about it as I have not done research (and do not really know how to be honest), however it is very interesting to hear the discussions pretty much daily on NPR.
Look, If I'm expected to pay for a national health care plan, I better be able to ****ing use it.
08-24-2009, 12:45 AM
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In other news, I just got off the phone with my grandparents. I asked them about this whole healthcare thing and how they feel about it and they are dead against it! They have quite a few Canadian friends and apparently I have a cousin in Toronto who all recount similar tales of woe with their particular healthcare system and do not want that here. To be honest I was not expecting that, but it was interesting to hear their comments as they were all based on real live people they know and talk to vs. anecdotal news stories that may or may not be true..
So there's that.
08-24-2009, 06:00 AM
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I completely agree!
In other news, I just got off the phone with my grandparents. I asked them about this whole healthcare thing and how they feel about it and they are dead against it! They have quite a few Canadian friends and apparently I have a cousin in Toronto who all recount similar tales of woe with their particular healthcare system and do not want that here. To be honest I was not expecting that, but it was interesting to hear their comments as they were all based on real live people they know and talk to vs. anecdotal news stories that may or may not be true..
So there's that.
In other news, I just got off the phone with my grandparents. I asked them about this whole healthcare thing and how they feel about it and they are dead against it! They have quite a few Canadian friends and apparently I have a cousin in Toronto who all recount similar tales of woe with their particular healthcare system and do not want that here. To be honest I was not expecting that, but it was interesting to hear their comments as they were all based on real live people they know and talk to vs. anecdotal news stories that may or may not be true..
So there's that.
08-24-2009, 03:30 PM
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I think you mean supposedly
08-25-2009, 11:11 AM
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