Major Engine Problem!!!
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Major Engine Problem!!!
I was just driving my car the other night, on Sunday, after returning from the club! As always there is always some dumb *** in a honda that thinks their car is fast! I was on ther freeway, and the honda and I decided to race! As I was climbing in 4th gear my car started to decelerate and then the check engine light started blinking. It was really hard to rev and reved really slow. I continued my way home which was like 2 miles away. The car kinda started to smell like burning oil. As soon as I got of the freeway, I noticed the car was smokin! a lil bit out of the exhaust and it smelt horrible. I took the turn up my hill and the car was runnin so ****ty, boggin, smokin out the exhaust and knocking. As soon as I pulled in I poped my hood and there was oil all over my engine compartment. I looked and there was a hose that is an intake hose that had came off, and it seemed that the oil came from there! I checked the oil level and it was fine. I decided to go to bed and deal with it on monday! So I wake up go to the car and start it and it is knockin so bad, and smokin white smoke all out the exhaust, so I poped the hood and as I reved the motor, there was a pop form by the intake manifold and white smoke came out from there to, and it did it a few times!
I have no clue what is wrong with my car. Could some one please help me. I took it to the shop yesterday, and they still don't know what is wrong. They said they have to call a rep to le them know of the aftermarket parts to see if waranty can cover it!
I bought my car last March brand new, and it has 23k miles on it. My after market parts are a...
Injen Cold air intake, Blitz BOV, Perrin Catless up-pipe, Stromung catless down-pipe, Greddy Evo 3" exhaust, a boost controller @18psi, Sprint lowering springs, 18" Racing Hart White CP 10s, painted skirts, Zero Sports wing adapters, and Black Housing headlamps
I don't know if any of thoose could have cause the damage, I am just really confuessed and upset! I have had all thoose mods for the last 6 months why now?
Also could someone let me know what the waranty deal is if you have aftermarket parts! Thakns Everyone!!!
The good news is I beat the Honda and I pulled a 12.9 at 107mph at the track on Febuary 9th and I had a 1.8 60 ft. And only with thoose mods. Stock turbo, stock intercooler!
I have no clue what is wrong with my car. Could some one please help me. I took it to the shop yesterday, and they still don't know what is wrong. They said they have to call a rep to le them know of the aftermarket parts to see if waranty can cover it!
I bought my car last March brand new, and it has 23k miles on it. My after market parts are a...
Injen Cold air intake, Blitz BOV, Perrin Catless up-pipe, Stromung catless down-pipe, Greddy Evo 3" exhaust, a boost controller @18psi, Sprint lowering springs, 18" Racing Hart White CP 10s, painted skirts, Zero Sports wing adapters, and Black Housing headlamps
I don't know if any of thoose could have cause the damage, I am just really confuessed and upset! I have had all thoose mods for the last 6 months why now?
Also could someone let me know what the waranty deal is if you have aftermarket parts! Thakns Everyone!!!
The good news is I beat the Honda and I pulled a 12.9 at 107mph at the track on Febuary 9th and I had a 1.8 60 ft. And only with thoose mods. Stock turbo, stock intercooler!
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I think it's the headlinght mod that did it...
Seriously though, you are running free flow intake, exhaust and stock injectors and you're running 18 psi of boost. And you raced on the highway in 4th gear, which means you were at full boost for more then a few seconds and cold weather made you even leaner then you already were. Did you really think the engne can take that kind of punishment? I would guess you've toasted a piston or 2. Time for a new block. Just make sure you get some gauges to monitor what your engine is doing and make sure you have fuel to support your mods.
Alex...
Seriously though, you are running free flow intake, exhaust and stock injectors and you're running 18 psi of boost. And you raced on the highway in 4th gear, which means you were at full boost for more then a few seconds and cold weather made you even leaner then you already were. Did you really think the engne can take that kind of punishment? I would guess you've toasted a piston or 2. Time for a new block. Just make sure you get some gauges to monitor what your engine is doing and make sure you have fuel to support your mods.
Alex...
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owch...18psi on the stock turbo is just asking for catastrophic engine failure. Not only were you running 18psi, but you had absolutly no engine management. With your mods (just the boost controller alone) it will never be covered under warranty. Time for a new motor. Good luck!
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Toast, toast, toast! This is the funniest post I've ever seen. I can't tell if you are for real or not. I know guys with larger turbos and fuel mgmt that aren't running that boost just for safe measure.
You need a new engine no doubt about it.
You need a new engine no doubt about it.
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you either blew your head gasket and or a few cylinders. That engine is toast.
I'm sorry to hear about it...... but 18 lbs w/o management is suicide on an engine.
Blue
I'm sorry to hear about it...... but 18 lbs w/o management is suicide on an engine.
Blue
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All I can say is uhhmm... DUH! Oh, and they're not going to warranty it. Just because you can turn it up to 18psi doesn't mean it's helping. At 18psi that turbo is putting out such hot air that you probably weren't running any faster than stock. With no engine management the stock computer is going to try to give you insane amounts of timing advance in the upper RPMs where it usually tapers boost. Lots of timing advance, lean fueling, high boost, and high intake temps = BOOM!
Wow, now I really don't feel so bad about my motor. Thanks.
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Wow, now I really don't feel so bad about my motor. Thanks.
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"some dumb *** in a honda "
His car is still running I'd bet...
So that anyone that reads this might learn something.. With a UTec, full headersback exhaust, and stock turbo... on the dyno my car made no more hp at 16.5psi than it did at 15.5. Without a port/polish/clip the stock turbo just can't push high boost effeciently.
As everyone else said.. the motor is cooked. Probably did fry a piston in your 4th gear pull. Forget a warranty at this point. "Gotta pay to play." Incidently.. used unichips or even utecs are pretty affordable these days.. surely cheaper than a motor.
His car is still running I'd bet...
So that anyone that reads this might learn something.. With a UTec, full headersback exhaust, and stock turbo... on the dyno my car made no more hp at 16.5psi than it did at 15.5. Without a port/polish/clip the stock turbo just can't push high boost effeciently.
As everyone else said.. the motor is cooked. Probably did fry a piston in your 4th gear pull. Forget a warranty at this point. "Gotta pay to play." Incidently.. used unichips or even utecs are pretty affordable these days.. surely cheaper than a motor.
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i bet it was the turbo outlet that blew off, and the oil was from the turbo.
without sounding too harsh, everyone here is right. the cai causes a lean condition (dyno proven) and running 18 psi is simpy too much for the stock turbo. it was at night in Seattle, which means it was probably cold. pushing that cold dense air will also cause a lean condition, and that alone is scary with the crappy gas we have here in the US. All that probably combined to make one hell of a lean condition in cylinder 3 (imfamous for running lean) and blew the gasket, or the piston, or both. Or even more than that. maybe even cooked the turbo bearing seals.
either way you look at it, good luck with your new motor. as others have said, there is no way they will warranty it, even if you can get it back looking stock. Before you put all those parts on your new motor, do some research in this forum and the engine mgnt section. there is VOLUMES of knowledge here, and just a few hours could have saved you some $$.
good luck, and let us know how it goes.
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i bet it was the turbo outlet that blew off, and the oil was from the turbo.
without sounding too harsh, everyone here is right. the cai causes a lean condition (dyno proven) and running 18 psi is simpy too much for the stock turbo. it was at night in Seattle, which means it was probably cold. pushing that cold dense air will also cause a lean condition, and that alone is scary with the crappy gas we have here in the US. All that probably combined to make one hell of a lean condition in cylinder 3 (imfamous for running lean) and blew the gasket, or the piston, or both. Or even more than that. maybe even cooked the turbo bearing seals.
either way you look at it, good luck with your new motor. as others have said, there is no way they will warranty it, even if you can get it back looking stock. Before you put all those parts on your new motor, do some research in this forum and the engine mgnt section. there is VOLUMES of knowledge here, and just a few hours could have saved you some $$.
good luck, and let us know how it goes.
josh
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Isn't there a fuel cutoff on the stocker turbo ~ 17-18psi?
I would imagine that as the car runs ~15psi most of the time an extra 3psi wouldn't be so bad. Are you sure it was only 18psi?
I know the boost builds fast in 4th gear... maybe you overshot further.
I would imagine that as the car runs ~15psi most of the time an extra 3psi wouldn't be so bad. Are you sure it was only 18psi?
I know the boost builds fast in 4th gear... maybe you overshot further.
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Originally posted by Stevied
Isn't there a fuel cutoff on the stocker turbo ~ 17-18psi?
I would imagine that as the car runs ~15psi most of the time an extra 3psi wouldn't be so bad. Are you sure it was only 18psi?
I know the boost builds fast in 4th gear... maybe you overshot further.
Isn't there a fuel cutoff on the stocker turbo ~ 17-18psi?
I would imagine that as the car runs ~15psi most of the time an extra 3psi wouldn't be so bad. Are you sure it was only 18psi?
I know the boost builds fast in 4th gear... maybe you overshot further.
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This frankly is a lil scary and confusing to me. First,a nytime you toy around with modifying your car, you have to accept the risk that you'll shorten the engine life, and most certainly void the warranty. Take it out of that shop, put it back to stock, then call the subaru rep. Second, a few weeks ago, I was at LACR doin the 1/4 when I met the owner of Easystreet Motorsports. I have on my car a MBC (a real crappy one). We were talkin bout our runs when he told me to turn the boost up. I'm very warry of my car so I asked will that hurt the engine. He replied no, because there is a cut of at 18 psi preventing damage. Now, it seems to me if there was no problem with it, it would have came stock. I also talked to a couple techies at subaru, and their opinion was that the stock turbo loses efficiency at 16.5 lbs, 2lbs over stock. Above that, the turbo is into question. So with all that information,a nd my experience with turbo cars (specifically trashing an 88 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R 2.6l) I'll tell you what wrong (as a matter of opinion).
First, I dont think its your piston necassarily. If you blew a ring, you would of most liekly fouled your plugs by the time you got home. You can pull em out and check em for oil. If you found some, you get to rebuild your block. Now, since oil came out of you intake (in front of the turbo turbine), sound like you lost a seal around the floating bearings. I had a similiar experience and it would explain most of your trouble. This then means you get to rebuild teh turbo,a n rebalance, or more likely, buy a new one. There really is'nt a cheap way out of it, but if I were you I would hope for the turbo. Peace
First, I dont think its your piston necassarily. If you blew a ring, you would of most liekly fouled your plugs by the time you got home. You can pull em out and check em for oil. If you found some, you get to rebuild your block. Now, since oil came out of you intake (in front of the turbo turbine), sound like you lost a seal around the floating bearings. I had a similiar experience and it would explain most of your trouble. This then means you get to rebuild teh turbo,a n rebalance, or more likely, buy a new one. There really is'nt a cheap way out of it, but if I were you I would hope for the turbo. Peace
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Originally posted by Blacked-Out
This then means you get to rebuild teh turbo,a n rebalance, or more likely, buy a new one. There really is'nt a cheap way out of it, but if I were you I would hope for the turbo. Peace
This then means you get to rebuild teh turbo,a n rebalance, or more likely, buy a new one. There really is'nt a cheap way out of it, but if I were you I would hope for the turbo. Peace
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Thanks for all of your input!!! I put the car back to stock(pain in the ***) and I took it to another Subaru dealership. They took a look at it and they are covering it under waranty! Yes they are!!! That's a good thing!
Cylinder # 3 hunh.... hmm... that is funny, cause I blew up cylinder # 1! I have absolutely no compression in cylinder # 1!
Well I just bought a fuel pump, and a fuel regulator hopefully this will cause me from leaning out again! I also am leaving boost at 16psi, cause this is where the turbo is most efficient!
Cylinder # 3 hunh.... hmm... that is funny, cause I blew up cylinder # 1! I have absolutely no compression in cylinder # 1!
Well I just bought a fuel pump, and a fuel regulator hopefully this will cause me from leaning out again! I also am leaving boost at 16psi, cause this is where the turbo is most efficient!
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Originally posted by WRXs2Fast4U
I put the car back to stock(pain in the ***) and I took it to another Subaru dealership. They took a look at it and they are covering it under waranty!
You lucked out.
Well I just bought a fuel pump, and a fuel regulator hopefully this will cause me from leaning out again! I also am leaving boost at 16psi, cause this is where the turbo is most efficient!
A fuel pump and regulator is not engine management! You should heed Josh's advice and read posts in this forum and the Engine Management forum.
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I put the car back to stock(pain in the ***) and I took it to another Subaru dealership. They took a look at it and they are covering it under waranty!
You lucked out.
Well I just bought a fuel pump, and a fuel regulator hopefully this will cause me from leaning out again! I also am leaving boost at 16psi, cause this is where the turbo is most efficient!
A fuel pump and regulator is not engine management! You should heed Josh's advice and read posts in this forum and the Engine Management forum.
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"…axles of evil…" - George W. Bush