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11-10-2015, 07:39 PM
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If we keep it subatomic --
The states of a coupled pair of particles cannot be determined or considered individually. Metaphorically speaking, it is to say that whether or not the cat is dead is immaterial unless someone observes it. The state of the as-yet-to-be observed particle has no meaning prior to measurement. The probability that the as-yet-to-be observed particle is in any allowed state is non-zero for all allowed (quantized) states, no matter how small the probability.
The measurement/interaction of the observing particle and the now-observed particle allows us to determine the state of the observed particle once the observing particle has interacted.
11-10-2015, 07:52 PM
#32
It's more the premise than the point. The point is show the flaw in the hypothesis that interacting with a particle determines the state in which the particle occupies when applied to large systems.
If we keep it subatomic --
The states of a coupled pair of particles cannot be determined or considered individually. Metaphorically speaking, it is to say that whether or not the cat is dead is immaterial unless someone observes it. The state of the as-yet-to-be observed particle has no meaning prior to measurement. The probability that the as-yet-to-be observed particle is in any allowed state is non-zero for all allowed (quantized) states, no matter how small the probability.
The measurement/interaction of the observing particle and the now-observed particle allows us to determine the state of the observed particle once the observing particle has interacted.
If we keep it subatomic --
The states of a coupled pair of particles cannot be determined or considered individually. Metaphorically speaking, it is to say that whether or not the cat is dead is immaterial unless someone observes it. The state of the as-yet-to-be observed particle has no meaning prior to measurement. The probability that the as-yet-to-be observed particle is in any allowed state is non-zero for all allowed (quantized) states, no matter how small the probability.
The measurement/interaction of the observing particle and the now-observed particle allows us to determine the state of the observed particle once the observing particle has interacted.
11-11-2015, 12:39 AM
#35
It's more the premise than the point. The point is show the flaw in the hypothesis that interacting with a particle determines the state in which the particle occupies when applied to large systems.
If we keep it subatomic --
The states of a coupled pair of particles cannot be determined or considered individually. Metaphorically speaking, it is to say that whether or not the cat is dead is immaterial unless someone observes it. The state of the as-yet-to-be observed particle has no meaning prior to measurement. The probability that the as-yet-to-be observed particle is in any allowed state is non-zero for all allowed (quantized) states, no matter how small the probability.
The measurement/interaction of the observing particle and the now-observed particle allows us to determine the state of the observed particle once the observing particle has interacted.
If we keep it subatomic --
The states of a coupled pair of particles cannot be determined or considered individually. Metaphorically speaking, it is to say that whether or not the cat is dead is immaterial unless someone observes it. The state of the as-yet-to-be observed particle has no meaning prior to measurement. The probability that the as-yet-to-be observed particle is in any allowed state is non-zero for all allowed (quantized) states, no matter how small the probability.
The measurement/interaction of the observing particle and the now-observed particle allows us to determine the state of the observed particle once the observing particle has interacted.
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