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Old 07-23-2008, 11:29 PM   #1
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Warranty Question (performance gauges)

So I am wanting to buy some gauges. I am gonna get the Glowshift gauge pack.

http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/02-07...gepackage.aspx


Does anyone know if I call and ask will they say yes it will void my warranty. if i dont buy the stupid damn SPT ones. I know it probably will but does anyone work for a dealership that know.

I really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance

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the only way any mod can void the warranty is if SOA can prove said mod caused said warranty issue.
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the only way any mod can void the warranty is if SOA can prove said mod caused said warranty issue.
I used to be a Subaru service consultant, and this man speaks the truth.
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4urabus I know you have told me this before. I didnt know you were a service consultant.

SO if i got my glow shift gauges and i took them into subaru...unless those gauges could prove to be the reason my engine failed they cant ding me. But lets say i get a boost gauge and something with the oil happens and my engines seizes up (far fetched i know just roll with me) They say it was because i messed with the turbo air line and do to over boost i caused the problem even though the boost was never adjusted.

So even though that wasnt the root causeIs this something that may have a possibility of happening, them saying that and voiding the warranty and me getting screwed or is there no chance of that happening.
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4urabus I know you have told me this before. I didnt know you were a service consultant.

SO if i got my glow shift gauges and i took them into subaru...unless those gauges could prove to be the reason my engine failed they cant ding me. But lets say i get a boost gauge and something with the oil happens and my engines seizes up (far fetched i know just roll with me) They say it was because i messed with the turbo air line and do to over boost i caused the problem even though the boost was never adjusted.

So even though that wasnt the root causeIs this something that may have a possibility of happening, them saying that and voiding the warranty and me getting screwed or is there no chance of that happening.
A boost gauge is unrelated to any oil pressure problems. However, if the feed line to an oil pressure gauge were to leak and cause your engine to run out of oil, then you're screwed. If you were to install an aftermarket boost gauge in a similar fashion to the dealer-installed gauge (you can get instructions from the dealer parts counter), then you shouldn't have any problems.

Keep in mind, if your car throws a check engine light, the service consultant would most likely quote you an estimate for repairs instead of automatically assuming that the problem was covered under warranty. However, unless the person who installed the gauges did a hack-job on it, most likely the tech will find that the problem was unrelated to the aftermarket gauge installation.

BTW, this is all hypothetical since I can't guarantee the quality of the gauge installation.


Refresh my memory; exactly which gauges were you planning to install?
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boost, oil temp, oil pressure, voltmeter. quad a-pillar pod.
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The one's relating to oil are of the most concern. To be on the safe side, be sure to use 'electrical' as opposed to 'mechanical' gauges, and use some teflon tape on your pipe fittings.
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but if i take the oil filter offfor the sender adapter doesnt that void it right then. cuz i was told i cant have anyone except for the dealership change my oil
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but if i take the oil filter offfor the sender adapter doesnt that void it right then. cuz i was told i cant have anyone except for the dealership change my oil
Who told you that? You can have anyone you like maintain your car, as long as they use the correct parts and fluids, and you keep track of your service records.
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so the dealership has basically been filling my head full of ****. it was the dealership that says no one else can service my car except them. So basically i just have to have a subaru oil filter on there and keep track of when i have oil changes?
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That is correct. You don't even have to use a Subaru oil filter (though they are the preferred part), you just have to use one designed for use on that car.

On of the many provisions of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 states that the manufacturer cannot force you to have maintenance performed at a dealership, unless that maintenance service is provided free of charge.

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/15C50.txt

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Thank you sir. i shall drink jager and read til i fall asleep. looks like good bedtime material.

I appreciate the advice. I have been working too late to call tim at the dealership so i hope all is good cuz i want those gauges so so bad.

But for sure a cobb ap would void it am i correct?
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Since it changes the parameters of the ECU, which effects engine performance (which in turn effects the longevity of the clutch, transaxle, diffs, etc), then yes, a Cobb AP voids the warranty on those items.
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