View Poll Results: Is the GR/GV chassis widebody?
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Is the GR/GV chassis a widebody?
02-14-2017, 01:48 PM
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There is a reason why cars like the M3, GT-R, Subaru, and EVO are the kings of the time attack track speeds/times. Domestic cars are great for off the line speed and a quick 1/4 time. However they have no place on a real track at real speeds around real corners.
02-14-2017, 03:04 PM
#51
It seems it goes further than that
The list keeps going but I dont want to commit more time to that.
Global Time Attack track records from the road courses we visit around the country.
Button Willow
Limited RWD – 01:44.602 – Cody Kishel Excelsior Motorsports Chevrolet Corvette – (2014)
Road Atlanta
Unlimited RWD – 01:24.340 – Cody Kishel Vengeance Road Racing Chevrolet Corvette – (2016)
Pro/Comp – 01:23.896 – Brian Faessler Pauls Automotive Engineering Ford Mustang – (2016)
Limited RWD – 01:28.259 – Cody Kishel MTI Racing Chevrolet Corvette – (2014)
Enthusiast FWD – 01:52.592 – Jamil Fields Slow Patrol Chevrolet Cobalt SS – (2016)
Enthusiast RWD – 01:35.219 – Steve Greene Auto8 Motorsports Chevrolet Corvette Stingray – (2016)
Limited RWD – 01:44.602 – Cody Kishel Excelsior Motorsports Chevrolet Corvette – (2014)
Road Atlanta
Unlimited RWD – 01:24.340 – Cody Kishel Vengeance Road Racing Chevrolet Corvette – (2016)
Pro/Comp – 01:23.896 – Brian Faessler Pauls Automotive Engineering Ford Mustang – (2016)
Limited RWD – 01:28.259 – Cody Kishel MTI Racing Chevrolet Corvette – (2014)
Enthusiast FWD – 01:52.592 – Jamil Fields Slow Patrol Chevrolet Cobalt SS – (2016)
Enthusiast RWD – 01:35.219 – Steve Greene Auto8 Motorsports Chevrolet Corvette Stingray – (2016)
02-14-2017, 03:08 PM
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LOL 30+ seconds slower than any other class, and tries to support fords as a viable car. *rolls eyes* bet its a widebody too right? LOL!!!!!!!!!
Also, not sure where you got that list. It ain't on the official time attack site.
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Shocker of shocker way down there is a mustang in one class. you know, among all the imports (and one corvette LOL)
Also, not sure where you got that list. It ain't on the official time attack site.
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Shocker of shocker way down there is a mustang in one class. you know, among all the imports (and one corvette LOL)
02-14-2017, 03:51 PM
#53
LOL 30+ seconds slower than any other class, and tries to support fords as a viable car. *rolls eyes* bet its a widebody too right? LOL!!!!!!!!!
Also, not sure where you got that list. It ain't on the official time attack site.
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Shocker of shocker way down there is a mustang in one class. you know, among all the imports (and one corvette LOL)
Also, not sure where you got that list. It ain't on the official time attack site.
| Records
Shocker of shocker way down there is a mustang in one class. you know, among all the imports (and one corvette LOL)
02-14-2017, 08:26 PM
#54
LOL 30+ seconds slower than any other class, and tries to support fords as a viable car. *rolls eyes* bet its a widebody too right? LOL!!!!!!!!!
Also, not sure where you got that list. It ain't on the official time attack site.
| Records
Shocker of shocker way down there is a mustang in one class. you know, among all the imports (and one corvette LOL)
Also, not sure where you got that list. It ain't on the official time attack site.
| Records
Shocker of shocker way down there is a mustang in one class. you know, among all the imports (and one corvette LOL)
02-15-2017, 08:31 AM
#55
Top 100 Nürburgring Lap Times
Rank Manufacturer & Model Time
37. Porsche 911 Turbo S 7:32.00
38. Ford Shelby GT350R 7:32.19
39. Pagani Zonda F 7:33.00
40. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:33.00
Rank Manufacturer & Model Time
37. Porsche 911 Turbo S 7:32.00
38. Ford Shelby GT350R 7:32.19
39. Pagani Zonda F 7:33.00
40. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:33.00
I am done trying to confuse him with facts, his mind is made up.
02-15-2017, 08:57 AM
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This is simply what is called 'attention bias'. Each of those individuals has a pre-set subjective preference/bias (JR = wide-body, OB = Ford sucks) and they only notice facts/opinions that support those perceptions and ignore anything that contradicts it.
02-15-2017, 10:52 AM
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My dislike of fords comes from direct experience.
02-15-2017, 11:27 AM
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You personal dislike comes from your personal experiences. Nothing wrong with that. To each their own. That's that's all it is; meaningless single data point (just like my build history). Everyone's mileage varies.
Without specific context of your builds; cars owned, what purpose, built process, problems encountered, ultimate budget/timeline overruns, quality of parts/labor used, etc etc etc...and, most important, how everything compared to your personal subjective expectations...it is just some nebulous internet posturing.
And regardless, aren't we all car enthusiasts here? Just with different preferences and passions? I seriously don't get all this elitism and snobbery. So what if people like form over function builds? Or Ford vs Chevy? Who cares? As long as the individual admits ownership/accountability for his intentions...what does it matter?
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