100-Plus Racers Just Bought Fiat 500e Electric Cars
03-18-2015, 07:42 PM
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3 yrs 10k miles for $85/month. 3.5k down with 2.5k rebate by state of CA within 90 days of signing.
If you want 12k miles/yr then extra $12/month. "Racing edition" which is basically accent colors on mirrors, lower body and wheels add $12/month.
This is what was told to me today by Newark Fiat.
Interior has nice leather seats with color accents.
If you want 12k miles/yr then extra $12/month. "Racing edition" which is basically accent colors on mirrors, lower body and wheels add $12/month.
This is what was told to me today by Newark Fiat.
Interior has nice leather seats with color accents.
03-18-2015, 08:39 PM
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Man tempting. Sounds like one of those too good to be true deals. Thinking about getting on it tmrw.. Lease 3 years as a daily and build a project car?!
03-18-2015, 09:18 PM
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4 of my buddies just got these today. 2 at fremont 2 at stevens creek. confirmed it 1k down w/ rebate and ~$83 month. 10k miles per year for 3 yrs. dont know bout the free rental thing tho. said colors options were limited unless you wait on the ones in transit.
im also tempted to get one. with what i save on gas, it practically pays for itself + hov!
im also tempted to get one. with what i save on gas, it practically pays for itself + hov!
03-19-2015, 03:07 AM
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So the math on my lease:
$2000 down, get $2500 back CA.
$209+tax = $230/mo + $66 insurance = $296/mo + $50 bridge toll = $346/mo total VS $420/mo for truck gas + toll.
So yeah, making $70/mo ain't bad at all. I got the Leaf vs the Fiat because I have kids and I will either have my daughter with me or sometimes the twins. So having rear doors and more space was important.
What about electricity? Well, if you don't have solar panels then sign up for the EV-A plan with PGE. Overnight charging is like 9 cents per kWh.
My Leaf has a 24kWh, and so if I had to do a FULL charge, and I have solar, so I'm on E6 with PGE, it's about 14 cents now, drops to 11 cents in the summer I think. Then again, I have solar, so I'm already producing more than I consume, so technically... Its free to charge the leaf.
But let's say you needed 15kWh a day for your 500e... 15*.09 (For EV-A rates) is $1.35 of electricity if you charged it at night. An entire month would cost you less than a tank of gas in most cars.
$2000 down, get $2500 back CA.
$209+tax = $230/mo + $66 insurance = $296/mo + $50 bridge toll = $346/mo total VS $420/mo for truck gas + toll.
So yeah, making $70/mo ain't bad at all. I got the Leaf vs the Fiat because I have kids and I will either have my daughter with me or sometimes the twins. So having rear doors and more space was important.
What about electricity? Well, if you don't have solar panels then sign up for the EV-A plan with PGE. Overnight charging is like 9 cents per kWh.
My Leaf has a 24kWh, and so if I had to do a FULL charge, and I have solar, so I'm on E6 with PGE, it's about 14 cents now, drops to 11 cents in the summer I think. Then again, I have solar, so I'm already producing more than I consume, so technically... Its free to charge the leaf.
But let's say you needed 15kWh a day for your 500e... 15*.09 (For EV-A rates) is $1.35 of electricity if you charged it at night. An entire month would cost you less than a tank of gas in most cars.
03-19-2015, 03:10 AM
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Do it. Seriously. Though it won't help you cross San Mateo or Dumbarton any faster, its $2.50 cheaper for toll.
Factor in gas and good insurance rates and it's really a no brainer. Give your GC some rest, put cash in your pocket.
In 3 years electric cars could be even better. Lease a new one then.
Factor in gas and good insurance rates and it's really a no brainer. Give your GC some rest, put cash in your pocket.
In 3 years electric cars could be even better. Lease a new one then.
03-19-2015, 03:17 AM
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Also: For small or normal EVs charging off 120v is doable. To charge half my Leafs battery to full takes about 12hrs on 120v. So I just charge it daily. I'm going to get a 240v outlet hooked up soon and that will run at 16amps, so my half battery charges will drop to about 4-5hrs.
But most people could swing an overnight charge daily and have plenty of range for the next days commute. 240v is better, but not needed.
If you are in a pinch, you can always charge at a public station for like 49cents per kWh. It's expensive but its 240v so it's pretty fast. One hr should get you on your way.
A great site and app for finding public stations is PlugShare
But most people could swing an overnight charge daily and have plenty of range for the next days commute. 240v is better, but not needed.
If you are in a pinch, you can always charge at a public station for like 49cents per kWh. It's expensive but its 240v so it's pretty fast. One hr should get you on your way.
A great site and app for finding public stations is PlugShare
