I agree with them in a sense we should think about what we print or say much more carefully. Hence the minimal censorship I discussed in the other active thread.

But this is why radical Islam is the worst mental disease of all. The ignorance meter topples any other going religion by far. I would kindly accept a Theistic Satanist into my home rather than a Muslim I didn't know. Hands down. I'd need to be reassured as to where a Muslim stood by someone that knew him/her well.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=8515527


If you don't feel this way then I cordially invite you to fly to the Middle East, Pakistan and Africa to jerk-off everyone you see while chanting Allah > All. Don’t you dare mention how Palestinian Terrorists wiped their asses with pages of the holy bible in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem in 2002 or when Arab vandals desecrated Joseph's tomb in 2003.


Ignorance at its finest.

 

First off I'm going to go ahead and say that if some desecrated a Koran to delibrately bother a Muslim, that's wrong. Is it freak out, riot and cost people their lives wrong? Hell ****ing no!!! As an American I am just about sick of trying to please everyone in the world who is different then I am for the sake of political correctness. To Pakistan, I could give two sihts what you think of our apology because when have you ever approved of anything we did in the first place? Even if we did flush a Koran down the toilet I don't really care what you think. Maybe if you'd have been governing your country like you should have 5 years ago and not harboring terrorists this wouldn't be happening right now (and yes I do understand that the Taliban was in Afganistan but they should have taken a bigger step in combatting it). The entire world asks for everything from America and what's worse they expect to get it. Who are they to criticize what we do with a tangible book when they have citizens in their own country training to kill American's for the sake of them being of a different religion (generally Christian)? The whole topic disgusts me with shear hypocrisy.

 

I'm not convinced that this didn't happen yet. So far we have: -a 'gov't source' says it happened but he can't proove it; -no official gov't documentation (no s***...); -prisoners say it did happen (no s***...). To me, that's very inconclusive evidense. Until we find out for sure if the desecration actually happened (if we ever do), we can't critisize anyone involved including the international Muslim community. Because if the investigation shows that there IS this type of desecration going on then they have reason to be pissed. If it hasn't happened at all, then Newsweek needs an a$$kicking.

 

MVWRX: I will be the first to admit that this def. could have happened. I never dismissed the fact that someone very well may have done it and to be totally honest I've got a nagging suspicion that it did. The only point I'm making is that it is entirely hypocritical of the Pakistani government to criticize us on what happened when they themselves have people committing crimes (def. ones who are training to) aimed at specific faiths. I could understand a model Muslim nation criticizing us but Pakistan has no right until they make a little more effort on their behalf to negate the hostility between ALL religions. But like you said, if Newsweek published this without evidence of it happening (we all know what yellow journalism has done before) they need a good a$$kicking.

 

Yeah, I agree that Pakistan is in no position to critisize other nations.

 

Word

France should be jumping our **** by now. God knows if they are good at one thing its got to be spineless criticism.

 

Exactly.

Pakistan is a model Muslim nation. Over 85% of its population are Sunni and/or wahabists. I cannot understand any modern Muslim nation criticizing us for any reason whatsoever. Seems like 80% of our world peace problems can be linked directly to them and their "religion of peace." The radicals and their leaders are bullies and hypocrites to the extreme.

 

I wonder how many bibles and toras have been burned, desecrated or used as t.p. in muslim countries.

 

On April 24, the Jerusalem Post reported on the damage that the PA forces were causing:

Three Armenian monks, who had been held hostage by the Palestinian gunmen inside Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, managed to flee the church area via a side gate yesterday morning. They immediately thanked the soldiers for rescuing them.

They told army officers the gunmen had stolen gold and other property, including crucifixes and prayer books, and had caused damage....

One of the monks, Narkiss Korasian, later told reporters: “They stole everything, they opened the doors one by one and stole everything....They stole our prayer books and four crosses...they didn’t leave anything. Thank you for your help, we will never forget it.”

Israeli officials said the monks said the gunmen had also begun beating and attacking clergymen.41
When the siege finally ended, the PA soldiers left the church in terrible condition:
The Palestinian gunmen holed up in the Church of the Nativity seized church stockpiles of food and “ate like greedy monsters” until the food ran out, while more than 150 civilians went hungry. They also guzzled beer, wine, and Johnnie Walker scotch that they found in priests’ quarters, undeterred by the Islamic ban on drinking alcohol. The indulgence lasted for about two weeks into the 39-day siege, when the food and drink ran out, according to an account by four Greek Orthodox priests who were trapped inside for the entire ordeal....

The Orthodox priests and a number of civilians have said the gunmen created a regime of fear.

Even in the Roman Catholic areas of the complex there was evidence of disregard for religious norms. Catholic priests said that some Bibles were torn up for toilet paper, and many valuable sacramental objects were removed. “Palestinians took candelabra, icons and anything that looked like gold,” said a Franciscan, the Rev. Nicholas Marquez from Mexico.42
A problem that arose during the siege again shows Christian fear of Muslim domination. Two Palestinian gunmen in the church were killed, and the PA wanted to bury them in the basilica. “With two Muslim bodies inside the Church of the Nativity, Christianity could be facing an absolute disaster in Bethlehem,” said Canon Andrew White, the special representative of the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Middle East. “It would be catastrophic if two Muslim martyrs were buried in the church. It could lead to a situation like that in Nazareth,” he said.43 Only after intensive mediation efforts were plans to bury the bodies inside abandoned.

 

the difference, however, is that the aforementioned group represents a bunch of thuggish goons.

our US military, thankfully, is held to higher standards

 

agreed

 

Seeing how they obviously have much more concrete feelings as far as desecration goes, I’m willing to bet a lot more. You can tell how ignorant they are in that they're dealing with the desecration of something tangible. Something about that seems very adolescent and petty, doesn't it? At least with other religions the word of God is what holds water, not paper.

Anyone have the numbers as to how many Qurans were obliterated by allied and insurgent bombings? So it’s safe to say that they leased out at the fifthly idea of infidels doing this? Whatever... I’m not impressed by their actions whatsoever. Then again, I have never held respect for these sand monkeys (the goons).

The White House could give a damn too. It has nothing to do with political affiliation either. The White House is pretty much the sober guy trying to divert aggression directed towards Newsweek by the belligerent drunk (the Muslims in this case). We all know you can't egg on the ignorant drunk or else they’ll start swinging. You just have act like you give a damn to calm them down.

 

Fixed. Just to remind everyone, even though right now it's Muslims that are involved in every conflict, Christians and Jews have had their turns being the idiotic bullies too.

 

...saved me some effort...

Gee, Salty, you're coming off as quite short-sighted and christ-centric. I wont say ignorant, because I know that's hurtful...

You really would rather have a practicing Satanist come into your house and represent the antithesis of your own religion, rather than a random muslim, whose religion holds many similar values?

I guess you're right, though- you can never tell with those deranged camel jockeys

 

You seem to know a lot about me, scoobsport98. Tell me, what religion do you think I am anyways?

It was an example of religion I can establish grounds with.

For example, let's say I have a radical Christian and a Muslim extremist. Both whom I have never met or known. Let's assume that the radical Christian takes abortion VERY seriously. To the point that he would kill me for being pro-choice.

I sit in room with the radical Christian and he asks me if I’m pro-choice. Knowing that he's a radical Christian and that this may his pet peeve, I say pro-life even if I was strongly pro-choice.

I sit in the room with the Muslim extremist and I’m pretty much screwed anyway due to association of being American. I could rip off a piece of carpet, grab a compass to find due east and he'd see right through it like a joke.

Let's see... which would I rather invite into my home? That's a tough one At least I can blow smoke up the radical Christian's *** and spare my life, my families life and our way of life.





How can you? Doesn't surprise me that you defend them though. Anyone who's taken the time to read my posts within this thread knows I’m not referring to the common men, woman and children within these countries. These aren’t the free and diverse streets of the Bay Area. This is what happens with radicals under dhimmitude.