If you can't make your point without going ad hominem or using another one of the fallacies on this list, you don't have a point. (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/)

funny you of all people would post such a link, well to be honest you are no where near as bad as good ole helladumb.

(dont think i have seen many ad hominem attacks by you)

I am sure I have committed some of those but I will own up to it if someone points it out. I will break them on purpose sometimes but will put a smiley or something so you know I am just having fun.

Yeah, helladumb will usually just end the sentance when he is obviously backed into a corner by saying somthing along the lines of "hitler would have loved you" or "people like you cause genocides" - which is totally crazy, considering most of us are socially awkward kids who just like neat cars. Not really dictator material.