View Full Version : How do i get a stuck lug nut off?


RugDoc2003
11-23-2002, 08:28 AM
Ok guys,

here's the deal...

I just got some new rims and a new set of gorrilla lug nuts...

one of my lug nuts on the front passenger side is stuck...

it does move a bit. but the resistence is really high... and it starts to get higher...
now when i'm turning the lug nut it almost feels like i'm turning the bolt instead of the nut...
how do i get this darn thing off?

thanks
rug

ps: i had put the lug nut on my self so it shouldn't have been torqued too high (shouldn't being the key word)

davenow
11-23-2002, 09:05 AM
then LONG bar, hope it doesnt break off
If it breaks off, go to stealership and buy a new lug for 1.49

GLwagon
11-23-2002, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by davenow
then LONG bar, hope it doesnt break off
If it breaks off, go to stealership and buy a new lug for 1.49
I'll second that...

N/A
11-23-2002, 02:43 PM
Impact gun that SOB off and hope for the best. It might just be stripped but if you use a gun it will eventually come off so that you can replace the nut and the lug. Just remember its going to be pretty hot when it finally comes off.

RugDoc2003
11-23-2002, 04:17 PM
i'm going to try this but damn...
i don't want to screw up my new rims (they are just 4 days old)

will the stud just come out of the rotor? will i be able to just slid the nut/stud combo right out of the rim ?

thanks

rug

davenow
11-23-2002, 06:23 PM
If its GOING to break, do it by hand. If you use a gun, when it snaps, it will go haywire, and hit the rim. so use a socket and LONG breaker bar. It should snap off relatively clean at the base of the nut, take the ehwwl off, take the rotor off, and pound it out with a hammer. Slide the new lug in from behind, tap it a few times to get it started, and put a few washers on it, then the new nut, and tighten it to draw it into position into the hub.Take nut/washers off, put wheel on, and torque it down.

That should take you all of 15 min. Its really not a tough job.
feel free o ask for any more help :)

N/A
11-23-2002, 08:01 PM
The lugnut isn't going to do anything special if you break it with a impact gun. The nut will just come off like usual. Either way let it rip.

Ninosautoacc
11-23-2002, 08:42 PM
Guys didn't he say it is moving but not getting any looser?

If thats the case could the stud itself be stripped on the hub?

N/A
11-23-2002, 08:49 PM
Damn how tight is he putting his lugnuts on? Sounds like it might be time to get the old pneumatic drill and some decent drill bits.

davenow
11-23-2002, 08:57 PM
have you ever snapped a lug off with a gun? The sudden release makes the gun jerk in your hand, making the socket move anywhere from an inch to 3 inches or so. Do you really think that is going to do any favors for the finish on his rim if it hits it?
Trust me on this one. I was a mechanic for 7 years, if you care about the finish on the rim, DO NOT use an impact gun

Lobster Man
11-23-2002, 10:21 PM
Torch it!!!!!

RugDoc2003
11-24-2002, 01:43 AM
yeah,
it seemed like the stud was moving...
but i'm not sure if it was just spinning in there or actually unscrewing out (if that is even an option)
all i know is that it was getting harder to turn each time while i was doing that so i didn't do it anymore in fear that i would screw up the rotor, hub, and or rim.

i just want to get it out and figure out how the hell i did it in the first place...

and as for how hard i torqued it on? beats the crap out of me... it was hand done, i didn't hammer the ratchet, i didn't stand on it... just pushed a bit until it felt good and tight, just like the other 19 that i have on the car...

:(
rug

Obi-Wan
11-24-2002, 02:22 AM
Is it possible the lug was cross threaded when putting it on?
I doubt it, but if the lug is getting tighter as you loosen it, the threads could be screwed and the loose metal particles are binding it up.

N/A
11-24-2002, 04:10 AM
Come on we're talking about a Subaru rim where the lug actually sits fairly deep into the rim. I've broken a lug or two off in my time and I've never seen this wild 3 inch swing that your talking about. Do you really think a breaker bar with a pipe at the end is going to not move laterally as it breaks the lug off? If the lugnut is on a rim where it wasn't recessed into the face then maybe but even then it would require you to have the gun on its highest setting which your not supposed to do in the first place on a lugnut.

bamfwrx
11-24-2002, 09:43 AM
I wonder if the threads in the lug nut have deformed or rolled due to excess torque. I kinda doubt that the lug is turning on somthing so new. use a gun and keep one hand on the socket.
I think the torque is somthing like 75ft/lbs on lug nuts.

youthanasia
11-24-2002, 12:24 PM
There are nut breakers out there to remove (slince) the stuck lug nut. But then you'd have to buy a replacement.

Lobster Man
11-24-2002, 01:18 PM
Well if ya have to replace the stud, it's very easy on Subies. Should take a matter of 5 minutes.

Ed
11-24-2002, 03:11 PM
If you feel more resistance, then it feels like it's breaking, it's too late. It will snap off.

subbie_rs25
11-24-2002, 03:51 PM
i work at discount tire co. well i would probably say by the way you put it that your lug is cross threaded and will break but if the stud turns try to push the stud from the inside towards the rotar if not i would say go to mineki or midas its only 35 dollars for a new installation

areg
11-24-2002, 05:50 PM
Then get some cutting fluid and drill that sucker out worked on my roadster.... way back when.

areg

Akiata
11-25-2002, 11:55 PM
I second what subie_rs25 said. The guys at discount tire I took my car to crossthreaded one of my lugs (morons!:( ) And when I was changing tires it felt exactly like what you are describing. Just take the nut off and see what happens. Do not use an impact unless you absolutely have to.

p@
www.achtuning.com

kaminari
11-26-2002, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by davenow
If its GOING to break, do it by hand. It should snap off relatively clean at the base of the nut

:rolleyes:

-j

wave
11-26-2002, 05:31 PM
Don't just force it of and break it if you don't need to.

Get some oil (cutting oil, WD40) and spray it on there. Then work it a part of a turn off, then tighten it back on a bit, then loosen it again. Repeat many times. This will (hopefully) begin to rethread the lug nut. Studs are usually much harder metal than the lug, so it should re-thread the lugnut and the stud may be salvageable, especially if you have a thread cleaner/file to clean the threads with.

Of course, if the stud is actually twisting, there is nothing to be done but break it and replace it.