It’s that time of year again. Time to blow the cobwebs off of your driving shows and gloves and get back in the seat for some driving time. For some of us its time to do some Auto-X, or road racing at a local track or maybe just getting down to Dromo1 for an assault on their track record. For some of us it is time to see what the winter has done to the wonderful scenery that surrounds our favorite backroads. This February 28, 2004 will be the “Training Wheels” Road Rally held by Into the Night Ralley Team. It is open to all road legal vehicles and requires no special equipment. About the only thing that you will need is a car, a co-driver and flashlight to read maps at night. It will take place on paved roads and should be about 5 hours. I know it sounds like a lot of drive time, but you won’t be sitting in traffic, you will be driving down some of the best backroads that Southern California has to offer.

into the night rallye team proudly presents
TRAINING WHEELS
5 hr Monte Carlo style road rally
and FREE Navigators School

******February 28, 2004*****




ALL LEGAL VEHICLES WELCOME. NO SPECIAL EQUIPMENT REQUIRED. This event is an easy, map-based, backroad-oriented, timed event for first-time entrants and experts alike.

This is not a race. It is intended to be a test of your map-reading and instruction-following capabilities. However, you are expected to run "on time". Think if it as a giant board game, with the roads and landscape of California for a board and you and your car for a game piece.


Opportunities for spirited driving will abound. Paved roads only. 2 people per car (driver and navigator) are suggested. Event runs rain or shine. There are 3 classes: Novice, Regular, and Expert. We suggest you bring a clipboard, pen, paper, 3 different colored highlight markers, and a light inside the car, other than the dome light, to read the maps at night.


The entry fee for this event is FREE TO NOVICES and only $20 per car for Regular and Expert. Please preregister if possible. VISA and Mastercard accepted. Send your name, address, phone, and with credit card info and signature, or check/money order payable to ITN, to the address below. If you can't preregister, please call or email us so we will know you are coming. All entries must bring registration, proof of insurance, and your driver's license to the Start.



SCHEDULE OF EVENTS - SAT. February 28, 2004


Registration/Instruction Location:
Eagles Bar and Grill, 23360 Lake Manor Dr., Chatsworth (nw SF Valley) 818 883 0000
Registration Opens: 10:00 AM
Novice Orientation: 11:00 AM - 12:30 PM
Reg/Exp Instructions out: 12:00 Noon
1st car out of START: 2:01 PM
1st car to FINISH: 7:00 PM (approx., near Magic Mtn)



ITN, P.O. Box 642261, L.A., CA 90064. 310 556 8305
© 2002, Into The Night Rallye Team.

More Info click here (http://carzero.freeservers.com.)

who wants to be my codriver?

:banana:

:D :D

Originally posted by Roo
What?? :rolleyes:

You think these guys can drive?? ...Well, maybe Neaners, but the rest of them?? :p

They're afraid of putting mileage on their cars... ;) :devil:

Now Now....

we know that:
there are those that baby their cars, there are those that put them on pedestals...
there are those that use them up and maybe abuse them...
there are those that just want to find out what they can do...

No matter where you fall in those groups, here's a chance for you to find out what you and your car can do. Having done a few of these I can say that you can go out have fun, drive as hard as you dare and not trash your car. I think the worst thing that has happened was that I scrapped the bottom of the front lip when I went through a dip at well over the speed limit. :eek: Heed the DIP signs. :lol: (along with the "road ends" signs!!....I have no experience with this one ;) )

Here is a event for the non-dirt rally folks. You got 17"s or 18"s on maybe a bit of a drop. No worries. You got some mods that have been untested, wondering what type of g-forces the new suspension can dish out, curious about the sound of a full cat back against the canyon walls or though a tunnel, this could be a place to find out. Got some HIDs that need some exercise? Did I mention its a night time event. Got a friend that says they are the king of all map reading, time to put them on the spot. Have a new car and are suffering from the braking in blues.... this will fix it.

After having said all that, I don't want to paint a picture of a Canonball run through the canyons. Its more structured than that, safer than that, and about 10x as fun. :D

At any rate, I hope to see some new faces out there. Last years training wheels event had a lot of Subies show, but you know what we were out numbered by the Diamondstar boys and girls. (if anyone comes up to you and asks you if you are "3G", say no "I'm 4H"....they won't get it, heck you might not either, but I thought it was funny :lol: )

cya'll out there
RR:D

Man...I'd love to go, but not too sure if I can find a co-driver.

ask around, never know what people will say. Ask your other car buddies... maybe do a swtich-a-roo. "I'll drive this one and you drive the next one" type of deal.

Even non-car or non-driving folks can get into. There are plenty of GF and wives that navigate. There was even one guy who had his mom navigate. They did well is his Outback sport!, but its his time to pay up, I hear that she will be driving an M3 while he navigates on one soon:eek:

RR:D

I'm thinking of driving down from Berkeley for this ... any info on cheap accommodation near the start and finish?

91 Honda Civic Wagon - Sleeper :D

The finish as far as I know is in the area near Magic Mountain, Valencia, Ca. There should be quiet a few of the generic hotel/motel places nearby.

RR:D

here is a sample of an 8hr Road Rally. This is NOT the one we are running on the 28th.
http://www.pbase.com/image/26074767.jpg

I just finished doing pre-rally check of the course and instructions. Drove all of the roads. And its going to a fun day for everyone. There is Zero chance of doing any off-roading. All the road are well paved and some even better than I ever remember them. Spectacular views on some of them as well.

the only clues I am giving are that the total running time will be 5 hours but less than 250 miles.

cya'll@start
RR:D

dude i co drive with someone, i hike and camp so i am awesome with maps

cool, I will try and find you a driver. :D

I would absolutely love to go, but you happened to pick the same day as the D1 drift event, so no for me :(

Will you be posting when the next event like this is?

ITN has these planned more than a year in advance, permits, paperwork and all the logistics take forever to get together. Its unfortunate that D1 chose the same day as ITN but oh well.

I will post the March event as soon as this one is done. If you can reserve March 27th. Thats when the next one is. Its an 8 hour Road Rally.

RR:D

thank you mods for making this a sticky. :D

Originally posted by nic3krnnamja83
dude i co drive with someone, i hike and camp so i am awesome with maps

I may be driving down from Berkeley for this event. I was orginally going to crew with a friend, but think he has to work now.

If you're still interested in co-driving let me know. I was planning on running solo, figuring it was too late to find a navigator. I ran the Nov '01 17 hour ITN solo and finished. :D

I will know by this weekend whether or not I'm coming down and if I'm running or crewing.

Jane
91 Honda Civic Wagon - Sleeper

Originally posted by RallyWagon
I may be driving down from Berkeley for this event. I was orginally going to crew with a friend, but think he has to work now.

If you're still interested in co-driving let me know. I was planning on running solo, figuring it was too late to find a navigator. I ran the Nov '01 17 hour ITN solo and finished. :D

I will know by this weekend whether or not I'm coming down and if I'm running or crewing.

Jane
91 Honda Civic Wagon - Sleeper

Originally posted by nic3krnnamja83
dude i co drive with someone, i hike and camp so i am awesome with maps



Looks like we got a north+south match:D

hey I'm liking this matching thing, we gotta do this from the start for the March event. :D

RR:D

90% sure let me know if u are going fo sho then i can go from there to let u know

hey can u give me roughly a better description of poitn to point the race is. need to prepare. and do we need like race suit and helemt and stuff

nah you don't need anything special.

Here's a list of things that I have when I do this. And this is from the perspective of a Novice, since I have only done a couple of these.
Flashlight
highlighters
snacks: redvines, beef jerky and powerbars
cooler with soda and water
one bottled water in the cup holder (thats mine, the navigator can figure on where to jam theirs on their side of the car)
two different wieght jackets, never know what the weather will bring.
charged cell phone yes there will be a number to call just in case.
pens or pencils
lipbalm and sunscreen
compass
straight endge / ruler
sunglasses
gas cards and money
Headache medicine and Dramamine !!!


the ones in bold I consider essential.

basically be comfortable, and ready to sit in the car for a while

as for the jist of a Monte Carlo Style Rally. You will be given genralized maps and route instructions. They will indicate the check points that you need to get and at what time. You are exspected to get there on time (not early or late) you will be assesed a point for every tenth of a minute you are early or late for your assigned time. The instructions are bit vague and you are to determine where the checkpoint is by the clues given in the intruction and the map, as well as clues you pick up along the way. You are familiaer with orienteering then you will have a head start when they ask you about compasscoordinates and such.

As for the driving, the courses are planned at or below the speed limit...if you don;t get lost or don't take the wrong path. The roads are generally all backroads or little used streets, many of which are curvy canyon types. As they like to say....opportunities for spirited drving abounds :)

in summary you will know what time you need to be somwhere, you will be given clues as how to get there and its up to you and your driver to figure out the best route and get there on time.

as complicated as it sounds it really a lot of fun :D

please feel free to ask more questions if you need clarification.
RR:D

Originally posted by nic3krnnamja83
90% sure let me know if u are going fo sho then i can go from there to let u know

Okay. I should be able to let you know by Monday, if that is not too late?

I agree with Rapid-Roo's list of things to bring. I have plenty of interior lights, highlighters, pens, stopwatches, clipboards. I also have a tiny compass, but if you have one too that would be great. Snacks, drinks, money for gas are also essential.

I usually split the cost of entry fee ($20 or it may be free this time) and gas used on the rally with my co-driver. You okay with that? My car gets about 30mpg.

I've done a few of these rallies, so have an idea of what to do.

hey rallywagon, sorry i just found out i have work out of state this weekend, free trip to las vegas for me. i wish u the best and hopepfully next time i will be your navigator. aim me if u wish to keep in contact throughout i am very interested in roadrally hopefully next time.

aim: s202impreza

sincerley brandon

Brandon,

Have fun in Vegas. If you are out near the Vegas Speedway Mon-Fri, check out the Shelby Cobra factory. They have a small museum and an interesting behind the scenes tour.

Definitely keep in touch about navigating in the future. I'm planning to be at the next ITN rally on March 27th. Same story though at the moment, not sure yet if I'm crewing or competing.

Probably showing my age, but what do you mean by "aim"? I presume it must be some form of communication?

Best way to contact me is by email <dancer AT musician DOT org> obviously change the "at" and "dot" first.

Jane

oh instant messanger lol, how old are u exactly, i am 20...yeah march 27th sounds great

Okay, I've heard of instant messaging, but have never used it. You can either send me a PM or an email.

BTW, it's a good thing I have a sense of humour :D because you should never ask a lady her age!! Let's just say 1984 was the year I got married :)


I'll let you know about March 27th ... not sure yet if I'm working or competing. If my friend can get off work early enough I will work the event with him. If not, then hopefully you can navigate for me.

Jane

muahaha hehe ok sorry! -.-, well why doesnt ur husband be ur navigator

That's okay, I had a good laugh!

Husband no longer in the picture. Friend who has navigated many times in the past is in school on Saturdays this semester. Another friend may crew with me if he is not working that Saturday.

I'll check in with you nearer the time.

Here is the map to START
http://www.pbase.com/image/26352923/original.jpg

Red is the START location

If you exit at Valley Circle from the 101, the only gas station is a Shell Station on the North Side of the 101.

If you exit from from the 101 and go northbound on Topanga Cyn, there are quiet a few along the way before you get to Roscoe.

If you come from the 118 and exit Topanga Cyn, there are a couple on the corner of Lassen (I think, thereabout at least).

The northbound trip up Valley Circle is very pleasant and nice precursor to the start of the Rally. But please be advised this is a heavily traversed route with a residential neighborhood in it. There has been one death and the local PD have bee seen in number patrolling the area. (Don't worry our rally route will take you far from here.)

RR:D

grrrrrr i wanna do it, i wish i could get out work!!!!!!!!! sounds so exciting hehe. hey is the next rally same route, or will it still be in so cali? i am defintelly gonna do this one

they are never the same route. sometimes they reuse some of the best roads, but the routes change. It will be a Socal thing for sure. Last year, the second event was from Ontarior to Temecula.

I will post new info soon, probably as soon as I get home from this one. We'll start a fresh thread on it. :D

RR:D

Originally posted by Rapid_Roo


If you exit at Valley Circle from the 101, the only gas station is a Shell Station on the North Side of the 101.

If you exit from from the 101 and go northbound on Topanga Cyn, there are quiet a few along the way before you get to Roscoe.

If you come from the 118 and exit Topanga Cyn, there are a couple on the corner of Lassen (I think, thereabout at least).

The northbound trip up Valley Circle is very pleasant and nice precursor to the start of the Rally. But please be advised this is a heavily traversed route with a residential neighborhood in it. There has been one death and the local PD have bee seen in number patrolling the area. (Don't worry our rally route will take you far from here.)

RR:D [/B]

FYI about gas stations near the start.

There are 2 gas stations on the NE and SE corners of Lassen and Topanga. One is Unocal and the other is Mobil (If I recall the station names correctly). There is an Arco on the NW corner of Topanga and Nordhoff. There is also 3 stations at the corner of De Soto and Devonshire (Chevron, Unocal and Shell). Gas as of today is around $2.13. Prices are all the same in the area.

There are a few stations on Valley Circle . I believe at the SE corner of Vanowen or Victory and V.C. there is one (I don't remember the exact location). That is the farthest north on Valley Circle that there is gas station.

See you Saturday.

Marsha

thanks Marsha!

I am not familiar with the area, and only posted the ones I noted on my drive up there for pre-check.

cya@start
RR:D

Do you have information on where everyone will be gathering AFTER the rally? I've emailed Joe, but he had not answered. I need to let a friend know where to meet me!

Thanks,

Jane

The info I have is a little sketchy but this is what I know. The Rally ends in the hills above Magic Mountain. The final meeting area will be a place called the Elephant Bar in Valencia (i think). That was the plan anyway. I didn't go with Nathan to get final confirmation on the use of that place so I am not certain.

RR:) wish I could have been more helpful than that.

Many thanks. I'll email Nathan.

Jane

bump for those looking for something good to do this Sat.

RR:D

its almost time! :D

please post your reviews here: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50067

RR:D

so how did it go guys?

You missed a great event. Some of the most gorgeous twisty back roads I've driven in a while, and the scenery was absolutely breathtaking! I got 3rd place in the novice class, running solo. You should definitely do the one at the end of March.

Jane

P.S. How was your w/e in Vegas?