Just got an email from Tom saying that they are no longer making Impreza turbo kits. Just an FYI. Sorry if this is old news.

That's too bad. This happend before, hopefully this isn't the end of ludespeed kits.

That sucks.
His kit is sooo much better than the other kits out there.

How is it better?

What "other" kits have you taken into the consideration.

Just curious.

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Originally posted by Imprezer
How is it better?

What "other" kits have you taken into the consideration.

Just curious.

Power capability, diversity, expandability, ingenuity.

AVO is a very complete kit, but that's it. THere's no room for growth. It uses a low boost turbo with actuator.
LudeSpeed kit uses a turbo capable of 400+ HP with a divorced wastegate (which I like better). I like the parallel fuel rail modification that comes with the LS kit. The flanges used on the LS kit for the turbo are available on MANY turbos making it easy to upgrade to a ceramic ball bearing turbo if someone wanted to. Also, you can ask for custom stuff for your kit. I didn't want a Cat or a 2.5" downpipe, so I asked for a catless 3" downpipe made from Stainless Steel. And that's what I got.

I think i-speed has a few things to say about it too:
http://www.i-speed.us/news/avo_ludespeed.shtml

custom kits are always an option

Yes. Yes they are. :D

I emailed Tom @ ludespeed. He said he'd still hook me up with up/dp for 400 bucks. It'll have his traditional FordT3 flanges. Then everything else is up to the buyer. However, everything else is easy.

Originally posted by ImprezaRSX
That sucks.
His kit is sooo much better than the other kits out there.

You must not have seem many kits then. Pipes are horrible.

Best news I have heard all day.

AVO is a very compelte but who wants to pay that much for a couple psi and nowere to go with it.

Originally posted by david2z4
[B]. Pipes are horrible.

/B]

hmmm...
the only pipe in my kit that sucked was the charge pipe... it was just ugly that's all.
Everything else was gorgeous on mine...

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/dtitan/downpipe.jpg
this downpipe is exactly how I wanted it, and it looks good too.

....and it looks good too

Ok if you say so. Maybe for Mr Midas.

if you don't mind me asking, what setup are you running and what are your performance figures?

Vishnu kit

<--------- and as I see from your comments under your name

you aren't doing to good with what you got.


Sorry not trying to start a post war but I just don't think that the ludespeed pipes are very good.

About the same as the JC Sports stuff.

Originally posted by david2z4


<--------- and as I see from your comments under your name

you aren't doing to good with what you got.



oh, so you are in the mid 12's then I take it.

I'm in Hawaii and our track sucks.
My intercooler is currently in the installation phase.


Back to Ludespeed,
You are 100% entitled to think the pipes suck.
However, I'm a functionality over form kind of guy.
The fact that I've performed every modification to my car myself and don't like paying high prices for stuff I can make myself shows it. Why pay for an exhaust when you can make one just as good? Why pay for expensive intercooler kits when you can make one just as good?
(by good I mean functional- not as pretty)

oh, and my bent cam is because COBB's regrind cams lose their hardness during the welding and cutting phase.

So how much $$$ was the LudeSpeed Kit, ..... and what does the Vishnu Kit cost??

Also, What parts are included in each kit? Delivery time on each?

thanks :)

Well,
The LS kit that I purchased was a stage I kit with a stage III turbo and a few custom requests.
Kit came with:
T3/T4 (63 turbine/.60 comp) Garrett, water cooled
Stainless Steel Up-pipe (2 1/4") , downpipe (3") with divorced wastegate. (Tial 35mm)
Voltage Clamp for MAP sensor
RRPFR (Vortech)
Parallel Fuel Rail Modification adapter
4 Spark Plugs (colder)
Boost Gauge
Pod for boost gauge
All the hoses/clamps/tees/etc needed to install the kit.
Factory oil pan with oil return line welded in place (pretty spiffy)
Blitz SUS DD Blow off Valve
Turbo Mounting Bracket
Cruise Control relocation kit
K&N Cone Filter and intake pipe
Turbo Charge Pipe
255Lph Fuel Pump

That's all I can think of right now...
It ran 2800 bucks.

Well since both companies no longer make aftermarket kits for the non turbo cars it is pointless to go over what they had. Both are complete kits. The welds, fit and quality of workmanship is uncomparable. You get more with the LS kit but I would not even concider a Voltage clamp and a RRFPR as acceptable to go on a car.

And yes I have done 100% of all the work done on my car so that is not something you can poke at me.

As for the time to get the kits, they both took over a year to get when they were being developed. Still after that the LS had to have over 1/4 inch of the tranny bracket ground off and several other tweeks to get it to even fit on the car. And the final pipes look scabbed together looking more like a prototype than a production unit.

Sorry I offended you. Guess there is a place for every level of kit from ghetto to professional.

Originally posted by david2z4
Well since both companies no longer make aftermarket kits for the non turbo cars it is pointless to go over what they had. Both are complete kits. The welds, fit and quality of workmanship is uncomparable. You get more with the LS kit but I would not even concider a Voltage clamp and a RRFPR as acceptable to go on a car.

And yes I have done 100% of all the work done on my car so that is not something you can poke at me.

As for the time to get the kits, they both took over a year to get when they were being developed. Still after that the LS had to have over 1/4 inch of the tranny bracket ground off and several other tweeks to get it to even fit on the car. And the final pipes look scabbed together looking more like a prototype than a production unit.

Sorry I offended you. Guess there is a place for every level of kit from ghetto to professional.

I agree with just about everything you said here.
except I personnaly didn't need to grind anything to fit the kit.

Also, when I said better than other kits out there, I was talking about available kits. Your setup is far superior to mine in craftsmanship (or so I've heard- but knowing Shiv he wouldn't let anything less come out of his shop) but it isn't available anymore and hasn't been for over a year now.

Obviously you read my other thread.
I was biased so I asked for a second opinion.

I wasn't personnaly offended. I just didn't like the way you were dogging on Tom. He has been very helpfull to me. I can't speak for other people, but he frequently returns my emails with accurate information and when there were mistakes in my kit he promptly fixed them. So it was almost like you were talking bad about a friend, that's all.

Just to close this once and for all.

We are both very pleased with our kits. I most likely would have been more pleased with your kit. A tec3 would be awful nice. I however, can't afford the expensive professional kits working for the military and raising a family. I feel that for the money that I paid the LS kit was great. I don't think the AVO kit is worth what they charge. I don't know about the Forced Air Tech, but their kit appears to be just like the LS kit.
I hate Voltage Clamps and RRFPR's too, that's why I don't have them anymore.

I'd also like to go for a ride in your car and see how the Tec3 is treating you.

I'd also like you to see what you can do for a lot less money (my car).

Lets put all this aside and say that any loss of a turbo kit for the 2.5RS is something that should be mourned... We need all the options we can get!!

-DE

amen

as I said before, there are plenty of shops around that can do a custom turbo kit for you if you like.

we are in the Sacramento area and would be more then happy to put a kit together for any RS owner. I am sure there are shops accross the country that will do the same service as well.

although the 2 companies that are no longer selling their kits, there is no reason to think there will never again be another RS-T

Originally posted by Scott@S-Squared
as I said before, there are plenty of shops around that can do a custom turbo kit for you if you like.

we are in the Sacramento area and would be more then happy to put a kit together for any RS owner. I am sure there are shops accross the country that will do the same service as well.

although the 2 companies that are no longer selling their kits, there is no reason to think there will never again be another RS-T

Oh far from it. I was just saying that every RS-t option is one more we have to consider, and every one lost is another we don't. It's hard for alot of I-Club members to find a shop they know they can trust to put together something as important as a forced induction kit. Luckily since I'm in CA this is not a problem for me :D But I feel sorry for someone in BFE who can't find a shop that has heard of subarus for 100 miles and needs a full kit delivered to their door from someone who they can trust to get it right. I guess these people will have to open up to other options...

The RS-T will never die. There will always be someone willing to do it :D

-DE

My RST project is coming along. I will be posting everything I've planned in excruciating detail once it's all done.

I have some extra turbo kit parts if anyone needs stuff PM me.

as do I

Originally posted by BAN SUVS
My RST project is coming along. I will be posted everythinhg I've done in excruciating detail once it's all done.

Thats something to look forward to :D :banana:

-DE