lets say i installed the booscontroller i have in my room, its a greddy profec a, and the turbo burns or the engine explodes, and i take off the boost controller and take it or tow it to the dealer, and swear that i didnt have a boost controller (after they asked).

do u think i could get around it?

also what should i set the boost at? bar?

neh i dont think that you'd get caught, as for the boost its all up to you men, just make sure you don't boost too high. as for me im boosting 1.17bar, at least thats what vishnu told me.

possible : yes

ethical : no

:P

Subaru's trained technicians are not as stupid as you think. You can try, but if your engine is blown up, it's not too difficult to figure out why or find the evidence. It's pretty funny when people claim they never abused their transmissions when their clutch is covered in burn marks, though. ;)

Given that the stock engine is damn near bullet proof they would more than likely want an explanation of what you did to it.

The ECU on these cars is a sophisticated piece of electronics that is constantly monitoring a variety of engine parameters such as Timing, Fuel, Boost etc. and will modify these in order to protect your engine from damage. If you want more performance then look to a recognized tuner like Cobb or Vishu, these companies develop packages that attempt to maintain reliability.

i agree eluminex

I lot of you guys think dealer personnel, is just there to believe all these excuses, and repair cars just for the hell of it.

I am a service advisor at a local dealer, and the first thing I always do to a car that comes in for engine/transmission concerns, is mods.....and the first one is lifting the carpet on the front passenger floor board and checking the ecm. And the digital camera right next to me, to email SOA...

What a blast I have!

Ha ha, exactly. I had a friend who worked at a rental place, they'd bust people when their sports cars came back with weld points for roll cages.

Originally posted by Spo172
I lot of you guys think dealer personnel, is just there to believe all these excuses, and repair cars just for the hell of it.

I am a service advisor at a local dealer, and the first thing I always do to a car that comes in for engine/transmission concerns, is mods.....and the first one is lifting the carpet on the front passenger floor board and checking the ecm. And the digital camera right next to me, to email SOA...

What a blast I have!

MOD GESTAPPO! JK. I've never had a car new enough to worry about voiding warranty or a turbo'd car to blow up. Poor me.

Originally posted by Spo172
I lot of you guys think dealer personnel, is just there to believe all these excuses, and repair cars just for the hell of it.

I am a service advisor at a local dealer, and the first thing I always do to a car that comes in for engine/transmission concerns, is mods.....and the first one is lifting the carpet on the front passenger floor board and checking the ecm. And the digital camera right next to me, to email SOA...

What a blast I have!

how can you tell by lifting the carpet if the ECU was reflashed ?

Originally posted by Scott@S-Squared
how can you tell by lifting the carpet if the ECU was reflashed ?

Yeah Spo172 please explain what sort of of tampering evidence do you uncover?

Reflashed, the ECM can be checked with the scanner and look for certain parameters, and also any wiring (suck as boost controller) tapped in to the harness/ecm connectors is or so ground for warranty denial.

I have never seen a reflash that can be detected with a scan tool. Which scan equipment are you using ?

have you ever installed a boost controler ? I dont think I have ever tapped into the ECU to install one before, but I could be wrong. Which boost controlers have you seen that were tapped into the ECU ?

those subaru ecus are sophisticated i can say, i asked the guy to check why i ahd the CEL on, was it that i didnt have a cat or maybe something else? i was worried cuz i had it running like that for a long time, and then the guy scanned it and he could see when i took of the cat and also when i put in gas while the car was running(i had a dead battery and it wouldnt start again i had to keep it on)

i wouldnt do it if i were you. The ECU records multitudes of readings of what the car is doing and it would show if you the dealer hooked up there computer to it.

the ECU is only going to record if it sees something that would throw a CEL. When that happens, it will take a snapshot of all the data so the dealer can see what was hapening when the CEL was checked.

the ECU does not log all the data from your car all the time for no reason, that would take a lot of storage.

back to the original post:

just set it at 16lbs (.11 mpa) and you shouldnt blow anything up. a lot of people run boost controllers on these cars, and as long as you're conservative and know the limit, you should be fine. people blow up motors from cranking up the boost too much. if you're worrying about the life of the turbo, running 16lbs of boost will reduce the life faster than the stock 14.Xlbs. these turbos are a dime a dozen and hell if it breaks, just upgrade the turbo.

Originally posted by Scott@S-Squared
I have never seen a reflash that can be detected with a scan tool. Which scan equipment are you using ?

have you ever installed a boost controler ? I dont think I have ever tapped into the ECU to install one before, but I could be wrong. Which boost controlers have you seen that were tapped into the ECU ? dont know how lifting the carpet up would let you detect a reflash either. Also ive helped a few people put boost controlers on there cars (not all subaru's but a couple were) and none of them ever taped into the ECU. they were a few difrent types too.