So is anyone thinking about joining the army? or know of someone who might be interested? I'm currently on hometown recruiting duty and I'm trying to get as much exposure as possible. Whats better than baic;)

lol i wanted to join the military. but thats like my 4th choice

Sounds like a sweet deal. Get trained to kill people who want to kill you for being in there country for some bullsh#t reason. NO THANKS.

This is a car forum, lets keep it at that and not a recruiting tool. Its bad enough that i get phone calls from you guys through school, now your on I-club.

its ok im sure a mod will move it...

they better...

My friend went the the Air Force, 3 years later he now

smokes cigarettes, and his girlfriend is a 3 time divorcee with 3 kids :thumb:

GO USA!

Lets not everyone be a hater. True this is a car forum and not the place for the military and politics but to stereo type the military in general is wrong.

Ive been in intelligence for 3 1/2 years, own a house, 06 sti, beautiful wife, and everything I could ever want! Back to the cars now

Sounds like a sweet deal. Get trained to kill people who want to kill you for being in there country for some bullsh#t reason. NO THANKS.

This is a car forum, lets keep it at that and not a recruiting tool. Its bad enough that i get phone calls from you guys through school, now your on I-club.

I wasn't trying to offend anyone, I was just wondering if anyone already had the pre-existing thought about joining. And no, our only job isn't going to other countries and killing people. We do have humanitarian missions. Mods you can delete this

war sucks

i agree with 06ezSTi. i have been in for nine years and also have a good wife 4 kids, 4 cars, dirt bikes, and a nice house as well.

Yup, the military is paying me a salary to learn French and run on the beach every morning, lol. Not many places you can do that with full benefits!

the good

* Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
* School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
* Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
* The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
* The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
* Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
* The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
* 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
* Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
* Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
* Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
* Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
* Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
* Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever
* Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
* An interim constitution has been signed.
* Girls are allowed to attend school.
* Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.

This is going to get ugly. OP, please consider you're posting to a lot of young minds who are influenced by the local knee jerk, idealistic view of the world. Not much good can come of this thread.

Oh, and thanks for your service. :thumb:

This is going to get ugly. OP, please consider you're posting to a lot of young minds who are influenced by the local knee jerk, idealistic view of the world. Not much good can come of this thread.

Oh, and thanks for your service. :thumb:

+1

tru that.....

So is anyone thinking about joining the army?

No way, Jose.

lol no thanks. met too many ppl that hated life after serving

If i were going to the war, i'd join the Marines, not the Army. Why would i put my life in the hands of fellow 'soldiers' that only enlisted because of the bonuses. ****ing rediculous.

Ain't
Ready for
Marines
Yet

But then again, I'm not fighting for this country and you're at least doing something. So kudo's to you, but lets keep this out of a car forum. Thnx.

If i were going to the war, i'd join the Marines, not the Army. Why would i put my life in the hands of fellow 'soldiers' that only enlisted because of the bonuses. ****ing rediculous.

Ain't
Ready for
Marines
Yet

But then again, I'm not fighting for this country and you're at least doing something. So kudo's to you, but lets keep this out of a car forum. Thnx.

granted it is a car forum but not every thread in the baic is something about cars. I wasn't trying to spam baic with some pro army agenda, I was just asking if anyone had any thoughts about joining. I respect everyones opinion about the armed forces no matter what it may be.

Naw.. I'm too old, too fat, too short, and balding..

If I joined the armed forces, it's be the airforce and I'd be a linguist or cryptologist... I specialize in Croatian, and German.

Besides, the Air Force is bad ass.

I'll consider fighting as soon as my government rejoins my country and starts fighting for what I believe in.

what do you believe in? terrorism?

If i were going to the war, i'd join the Marines, not the Army. Why would i put my life in the hands of fellow 'soldiers' that only enlisted because of the bonuses. ****ing rediculous.

Ain't
Ready for
Marines
Yet

But then again, I'm not fighting for this country and you're at least doing something. So kudo's to you, but lets keep this out of a car forum. Thnx.

Ironic. I have no problem with Marines, only the typical condescending rhetoric they seem to be brain-washed with. If Marines are so hard core why are all the Special Operations currently being used Navy and Army? Why is Baghdad held by mostly Army? Was the largest amphibious invasion in the history of the world (supposed Marine's expertise) conducted by only Army troops? Let's be real, when it gets down to it, they're all about the same. And if you want to pick a "best branch", it has to be the Navy hands down. Better travel, the most powerful weapons, less stress on families, etc...

heres how i see the 4 branches of the military, and no i'm not counting the coast guard.

Marines=jocks
Air Force= snooby kids
Navy=nerds
Army= the "C average" students

heres how i see the 4 branches of the military, and no i'm not counting the coast guard.

Marines=jocks
Air Force= snooby kids
Navy=nerds
Army= the "C average" students

Lol, you gotta give ARMY more credit than that...after all they do have Rangers, Special Forces, and Delta Force.

Anyway, to everyone reading these posts...
I loved serving my country. I had some real good times and was really put to the test on many occasions. Made a lot of good friends too. Seriously though, if you're not a man and expect the military to turn you into a man, you're going to ***** out real fast. Then we're going to have yet another loser bad mouthing the military.

If it wasn't a pay cut, I'd get on CHP or OPD.

If it wasn't a pay cut, I'd get on CHP or OPD.

that be a pay raise for me and i've thought about it. but i don't want to be on the receiving end of some thread on the internet when I pull some ricer over with a coffee can exhaust

and to Chrisnonstop, the part about being a man isn't necessarily true i believe. I certainly joined as a boy and in the 3.5 years i've been in I've turned into something not quite boy but not full man yet, a half puberty if you will. And I don't hate the army. The people who hate the military after being in are usually lazy, unmotivated retards anyway.

I'm already joining the Air Force. Took my ASVAB last month and about to take my physical on the 15th, hopefully get loadmaster or boomer and wait until I go to BMT.

I'm actually joining because I really WANT to be in the military to serve, good benefits, great training/school, want to travel, actually want to make a career out of it. Looking back at all the stuff I did to get up to this moment waiting to select my job then DEP and I'm damn proud of myself (loosing so much weight, studying constantly for my ASVAB, etc.)

Honestly the military is all what you make of it. I know some people in and out that hate it and some that love it. Thanks to a few i-club members that have really been there for me both being my mentors through this whole process its made it easier and that much more appealing to myself :D

Marines are so cool...all you do is spin your rifles in the air and swing a sword 2 inches from your face all day...at least thats what the commercials show.
Naw.. I'm too old, too fat, too short, and balding..

ok
ok
short=smaller target
Balding=more aerodynamic

you can always try the local elementary schools. (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/44292/) :peace:

no thats too hard for them...its easier to tell which students are more retarded in highschool

Nope!

I really wish people would rethink their response towards anyone in the military whether they're a recuiter or anyon else. If you don't wish to enlist then simply say "No thank you" in a polite manner. You really don't have to go on a rant or start talking **** about the men and women that protect each and everyone of us. The military may not be perfect but please take the time to realize that these brave men and women protect and fight for your freedom to basically talk ****.

no thats too hard for them...its easier to tell which students are more retarded in highschool

right...because everyone who joins is retarded

If i were going to the war, i'd join the Marines, not the Army. Why would i put my life in the hands of fellow 'soldiers' that only enlisted because of the bonuses. ****ing rediculous.

Ain't
Ready for
Marines
Yet

But then again, I'm not fighting for this country and you're at least doing something. So kudo's to you, but lets keep this out of a car forum. Thnx.


That's funny. Buddy of mine chose the army because his father served in the army. He went airborne. He was a scout in iraq with his caravan got hit with an I.E.D. The driver of one of the humvees crawled out on fire burning to death. They broke protocol and rushed in with a fire extinguisher to put the guy out. As they were trying to get him out of there the second I.E.D. hit. Killed 6 guys and SEVERELY wounded 2 others. Cost one guy one of his eyes. And my buddy all of 20 years old had to be a part of it all. He lived.

In another time he had watch his buddies head get blown off by an explosive right next to him.

He was out there on the front lines kicking doors in and protecting your rights to be a douche bag.

Guy I met just Sat just got back from his 3rd tour. He's an army ranger. Guy got back sunday. On sat some idiot walked up and slapped his fiance's ass. He easily handled all 4 guys.

Now there's guys like this and a few others I know. Including my brother in law who is currently in Iraq and my other brother in law that is training in mojave right now.

Then there's a couple marine's with their thumbs up their asses guarding george w. Or you have marine's sitting at bases in hawaii partying their asses off.

You gonna tell me because they're marine's they're better than those guys in the army... loosing their lives?


Don't get me wrong marine's are badass but I am sick and tired of poeple discounting the army.




as per the question. I'm 30. I've thought about it but the wife ain't having it.

I nearly joined when I was 18. I wanted to fly. I scored off the charts on all their tests but I had a history of epilepsy and a family history of deteorating vision. Mind you I was BETTER than 20/20 at the time and hadn't had any issues with epilepsy since my step dad stopped kicking my ass. They told me they wanted me in really bad and offered a bonus... rare in 1995 I guess. But they told me my chances of making flight qualifications (back ground check) were next to zero. Told me I'd get infantry.

I told them to **** off.

I wasn't going in to protect my country I was going in to do something for myself. Better myself and live a dream. My grandfather got killed over japan in WW2 flying a bomber. Always wanted to fly.

If I went in now I'd be going in for one thing and one thing only. Get training. Get the name behind me. Come out in 4 years and either do SWAT or private protection.



good luck doing your recruiting. I'd start with more american boy boards... mustang boards.

Naw.. I'm too old, too fat, too short, and balding..

my brother in law just finished boot camp a couple months ago.

He went in at all over maybe 5'8" but if I'm not mistaken 5'6". Has a budda belly and is bald.


But I tell you what... touch him and he'd break your arm before you realized you pissed him off. Dude is a badass.

oh... and the best part. He ENLISTED AT 39 with a wife and 2 kids.

It's turning out to be one of the best decisions he ever made.

My buddy joined, He is just getting out. Finally back to US......he always said the dumbest most right wing ****......just to sound like an ass and was all about George W. Well my friends, here we are 5+ yrs later and he hates the army and the goverment. suprise suprise......keep in mind this guy is my friend so i can talk about him like that.

Military service should be mandatory.
And yes, I'd support the draft.

Military service should be mandatory.
And yes, I'd support the draft.

Lol, yea it should be mandatory as soon as all the mandatory stuff the government has not completed or finished is taken care of, and as soon as our government represents the peoples wants instead of a select few in the gov's wants............

If you really believe that why aren't you fighting right now?

Talking is a lot easier than doing.

blahblahblah

We have exactly the gov't we deserve.

If you really believe that why aren't you fighting right now?

Oh, boy.....


Talking is a lot easier than doing.

Not if you're calling in Steel Rain danger close.

Ironic. I have no problem with Marines, only the typical condescending rhetoric they seem to be brain-washed with. If Marines are so hard core why are all the Special Operations currently being used Navy and Army? Why is Baghdad held by mostly Army? Was the largest amphibious invasion in the history of the world (supposed Marine's expertise) conducted by only Army troops? Let's be real, when it gets down to it, they're all about the same. And if you want to pick a "best branch", it has to be the Navy hands down. Better travel, the most powerful weapons, less stress on families, etc...

The Navy and Army have much better funding and representation in SOCOM than the Marine Corps does, that's why they get most of the missions. Marines have units capable of Special Operations (Force Recon, MARSOC, MEUSOC) and they are often working closely in conjunction with their Navy counterparts (SEALs). One of my close friends was in the 1st Force Recon BN, he worked with SF and SEAL guys while he was in Iraq all the time.

Anyways, everyone is about equal and everyone is on the same team when the bullets start flying. This is a cool vid here showing USMC, Army and SEALs operating together: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SFwVxmJkp54

I just want to say thanks to all the military personels who served our country. The military defended our country when we needed the most, even in questionable times as now. It's not their fault that we are in this lousy situation, it's the President's. So don't hate the military, people! They make the ultimate sacrafice for our country.

-my $0.02

the good

* Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
* School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
* Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
* The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
* The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
* Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
* The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
* 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
* Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
* Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
* Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
* Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
* Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
* Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever
* Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
* An interim constitution has been signed.
* Girls are allowed to attend school.
* Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.



Thank you.

And technically the OP is relevant to the BAIC.. hes a recruiter in the BAIC.. the BAIC section is for BAIC related stuff. Its not offensive material.
just because you don't agree with the war doesn't mean the military is bad. they follow orders.. i know family and friends who went to the army/navy/marines/Airforce and came back and got jobs that pay more money than they would have if they graduated only from college.

Military service should be mandatory.
And yes, I'd support the draft.
I agree Paul. Other countries require service from their men and women when of age for at least 2 years. I believe it builds a strong work ethic and guaranteed protection for their future.

Lol, yea it should be mandatory as soon as all the mandatory stuff the government has not completed or finished is taken care of, and as soon as our government represents the peoples wants instead of a select few in the gov's wants............

If you really believe that why aren't you fighting right now?

Talking is a lot easier than doing.
Do you realize that damn near no country's government is perfect yet we try damn hard and have alot to show for it?? No government is going to represent the entire population to everyone's ridiculous desires.

And I HIGHLY suggest that you hold your tounge and watch what you say. Especially your last statement of

" If you really believe that why aren't you fighting right now?

Talking is a lot easier than doing"


Paul is a veteran of this country and has served us proud and well. I bet you didn't even bother to ****ing think that the person you may be insulting could very well be a veteran or currently serving giving you the freedom to act like a complete DICK right about now. People like you seriously disgust me. Even if you don't agree with current or past policies at least have the respect for those who fight for your freedoms. :mad:


I may not be a Marine, Seaman, Airman, Coast Guard, or in the Army, but when the day comes soon I will be a proud Airman aiding my fellow brothers and sisters in arms regardless of branch to provide my own country and people the liberties they deserve.

Good one hatteroo.....

Oh, boy......
My words exactly.



The Navy and Army have much better funding and representation in SOCOM than the Marine Corps does, that's why they get most of the missions. Marines have units capable of Special Operations (Force Recon, MARSOC, MEUSOC) and they are often working closely in conjunction with their Navy counterparts (SEALs). One of my close friends was in the 1st Force Recon BN, he worked with SF and SEAL guys while he was in Iraq all the time.

Anyways, everyone is about equal and everyone is on the same team when the bullets start flying. This is a cool vid here showing USMC, Army and SEALs operating together: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SFwVxmJkp54
I really wish alot of people had the same attitude and to work together rather than the whole "me me me" problem. Whenever I see those kind of videos or commercials on tv I'm not ashamed to say that I have shed a few tears over how proud of them I am and looking forward towards my bmt graduation when I am one of them.

Good one hatteroo.....
Sorry for the rant, but it had to be said. I feel that those who speak out like that and don't even show one bit of appreciation are the true cowards.

I wouldn't mind joining the SAS

:D

Mike

I wouldn't mind joining the SAS

:D

Mike
Those are some insanely tough muther****ers! :D

I wouldn't mind joining the SAS

:D

Mike

Scandinavian Air Service?

The main topic was a young man trying to make a decision on joining or to not join the militray. Not to feed anybodys ego here there are pros and cons to everything in life. That is just the way it is instead of everyone going completely off topic or trying to figure out which branch is best not one post asked this man why was he thinking of joining. Look I went to college I have freind in the military and some love it and some dont like all things it is what u make of it. If this young man is not going to go to college or a trade school and wants something to keep him from flippin burgers or working at a gracery store for all his not that anything is wrong with that it a honest living support him in it at least he aint steeling the wheels off your STI thank god. So I you think it will make you a better man buy joining the armed forces by all means go for it.

I don't give a **** which branch of the military a person serves in.
As long as they serve.

I really wish people would rethink their response towards anyone in the military whether they're a recuiter or anyon else. If you don't wish to enlist then simply say "No thank you" in a polite manner. You really don't have to go on a rant or start talking **** about the men and women that protect each and everyone of us. The military may not be perfect but please take the time to realize that these brave men and women protect and fight for your freedom to basically talk ****.

Thats why I just said nope, but you have to realize a lot of people support the army/navy but do no support the war. I thank everyone that puts their lives on the line every day to keep us safe!

I don't give a **** which branch of the military a person serves in.
As long as they serve.
QFT

I agree Paul. Other countries require service from their men and women when of age for at least 2 years. I believe it builds a strong work ethic and guaranteed protection for their future.


Do you realize that damn near no country's government is perfect yet we try damn hard and have alot to show for it?? No government is going to represent the entire population to everyone's ridiculous desires.

And I HIGHLY suggest that you hold your tounge and watch what you say. Especially your last statement of

" If you really believe that why aren't you fighting right now?

Talking is a lot easier than doing"


Paul is a veteran of this country and has served us proud and well. I bet you didn't even bother to ****ing think that the person you may be insulting could very well be a veteran or currently serving giving you the freedom to act like a complete DICK right about now. People like you seriously disgust me. Even if you don't agree with current or past policies at least have the respect for those who fight for your freedoms. :mad:


I may not be a Marine, Seaman, Airman, Coast Guard, or in the Army, but when the day comes soon I will be a proud Airman aiding my fellow brothers and sisters in arms regardless of branch to provide my own country and people the liberties they deserve.

Yeah when the day comes? my ass dude. You are just talking man, if you really believe in what Paul says be a man and go fight, unless you are scared to stand up for what you believe in......

Also as far as nobodies government being perfect, well ours is ****ed big time.........

I know Paul served, I'm just trying to get him to agree that the **** is a scam recently, and that fighting for patriotism and freedom for America is completely different than what we are doing right now. Also no offense to you Paul, but hateroo how the hell do you know how he served or what he did? get off his sack? we've had a lot of solidiers.......in my family as well so don't talk to me..........about that ****, and frankly the wars they fought in were a helluv a lot more important.

I never asked that a country be able to represent every individuals desires (we are way far off from that), but I do believe the government should not be taking advantage of its citizens, sending them off to an illegitimate war, and then ****ing the economy in the meantime....................if you believe in your government right now you are either a dumb****, a rich ******* who will sacrifice humanity for tax cuts, or a complete tool.


If you believe anything that has happened recently has been for the people or in your best interest, may god be with you.

I will agree will Paul we have exactly the gov we deserve..........and that sucks.........I don't feel like I deserve it but..........I can say as a whole we do.

Sorry pal, I'm not trying to discount what the soldiers are doing, and I know it's hard to accept because it makes it seem like they are there for nothing.......

but you sure as hell better not tell me they are fighting for my freedoms right now, cause thats a LIE. The fact is going to war with Iraq has made us look more hypocritical and stupid than ever, that if we had spent some time and money controlling the war machine Israel, then the middle east wouldn't hate us so ******* much, had we at least tried to make it humane.......after fueling/ and birthing the new age inhumanity there. Maybe we'd be a little less likely to be attacked, but all the **** we have done since 2001 has made us more likely to be targeted, and imo rightfully so.

But instead nobody in our gov has the balls to step up, Carter is over there, a helluv a lot better president than our current one, oh yea and the guy who has been dealing with the problems over there since most of us were born, we wants to go, to help, to fix the problem without picking a side........but no Israel doesn't negotiate with terrorists, any intelligent person can agree both of them are terrorist and insane at killing innocent people.............nobody in our gov will speak out towards a resloution..........

Do you realize this is a huge reason why the middle east doesn't like us?

If i were going to the war, i'd join the Marines, not the Army. Why would i put my life in the hands of fellow 'soldiers' that only enlisted because of the bonuses. ****ing rediculous.

Ain't
Ready for
Marines
Yet

But then again, I'm not fighting for this country and you're at least doing something. So kudo's to you, but lets keep this out of a car forum. Thnx.

Funny, I never thought this was the case for some of the Marines I saw go through some Army pipelines. I always loved when non 0300s came up to me saying, "You know, every Marine is Infantry first." Memories :rolleyes: I have served with some great Marines and have nothing but respect for all of them. Actually, I have respect for anyone that serves in any branch. I despise those that spew crap about the military whom never served.

Have you ever served? Your post is ridiculous if you think people enlist for the bonuses. I haven't read the rest of this thread but I'm sure it's stuffed to the gills with diarrhea posts.

And btw, to the cherry that started this thread, why in the hell are you concerned about hometown recruiting anyways? Just show-up and act busy on the phone while planning your evening with family and friends. Even better... try to convince your recruiter you should frequent the nearby mall so you REALLY can try to get the numbers of the skirts walking around staring at you in uniform. I look back on my hometown recruiting and laugh. :p

who you calling cherry? I'm just asking if anyone has any thoughts about enlisted. If no one does, then no biggie i move on. I'm not concerned about it. I get paid either way thank you very much.

And btw, to the cherry that started this thread, why in the hell are you concerned about hometown recruiting anyways? Just show-up and act busy on the phone while planning your evening with family and friends. Even better... try to convince your recruiter you should frequent the nearby mall so you REALLY can try to get the numbers of the skirts walking around staring at you in uniform. I look back on my hometown recruiting and laugh. :p

Some of the finest people I've met in the corporate world are ex-military. A lot of BAIC is kids in hourly wage jobs or talking big by the grace of mommy and daddy - the jealousy shines through.

Regardless of what you believe in or what convictions are, a great stipend, paid for college education and a great resume builder - being in the military trumps the miserable existence most average joes live. Go on, continue being a nobody.


The bottom line is I know more than a few people whose military service lifted them into the middle class, put them through college, gave them a solid and respectable position in life. If only the haters could claim a couple of those

Some of the finest people I've met in the corporate world are ex-military. A lot of BAIC is kids in hourly wage jobs or talking big by the grace of mommy and daddy - the jealousy shines through.

Regardless of what you believe in or what convictions are, a great stipend, paid for college education and a great resume builder - being in the military trumps the miserable existence most average joes live. Go on, continue being a nobody.


The bottom line is I know more than a few people whose military service lifted them into the middle class, put them through college, gave them a solid and respectable position in life. If only the haters could claim a couple of those

I'll agree with that but I think it's a different time and place now. I don't think there is nearly the benefit to there that was in past times. Maybe i'm wrong. But nobody can deny the joke of a war we have, would you really want people fighting who don't believe in what the military and government are doing? Don't I have freedoms not to fight if I don't believe that whats right????
I dunno about you but most of the active solidiers I know are pretty dissapointed with whats been happening. I guess it could build your career but I'd be concerned with what it did to my well being, people should be responsible for their actions, solidier or not.

People in the USA should be thank full for EVERYTHING they are given. All of us get to chill on the computer and talk about our thoughts while all the other third world countries are out there fighting on there home front and couldn't even dream about the lives we live. Blessed and safe regardless of our government or the proclaimed recession we're falling into. Saw first hand for 15 months and I am about to see it again for another 12 :)

Gotta dog on the Air Force (aka Mattress Pads)

Yeah when the day comes? my ass dude. You are just talking man, if you really believe in what Paul says be a man and go fight, unless you are scared to stand up for what you believe in......

Also as far as nobodies government being perfect, well ours is ****ed big time.........

I know Paul served, I'm just trying to get him to agree that the **** is a scam recently, and that fighting for patriotism and freedom for America is completely different than what we are doing right now. Also no offense to you Paul, but hateroo how the hell do you know how he served or what he did? get off his sack? we've had a lot of solidiers.......in my family as well so don't talk to me..........about that ****, and frankly the wars they fought in were a helluv a lot more important.

I never asked that a country be able to represent every individuals desires (we are way far off from that), but I do believe the government should not be taking advantage of its citizens, sending them off to an illegitimate war, and then ****ing the economy in the meantime....................if you believe in your government right now you are either a dumb****, a rich ******* who will sacrifice humanity for tax cuts, or a complete tool.


If you believe anything that has happened recently has been for the people or in your best interest, may god be with you.

I will agree will Paul we have exactly the gov we deserve..........and that sucks.........I don't feel like I deserve it but..........I can say as a whole we do.

Sorry pal, I'm not trying to discount what the soldiers are doing, and I know it's hard to accept because it makes it seem like they are there for nothing.......

but you sure as hell better not tell me they are fighting for my freedoms right now, cause thats a LIE. The fact is going to war with Iraq has made us look more hypocritical and stupid than ever, that if we had spent some time and money controlling the war machine Israel, then the middle east wouldn't hate us so ******* much, had we at least tried to make it humane.......after fueling/ and birthing the new age inhumanity there. Maybe we'd be a little less likely to be attacked, but all the **** we have done since 2001 has made us more likely to be targeted, and imo rightfully so.

But instead nobody in our gov has the balls to step up, Carter is over there, a helluv a lot better president than our current one, oh yea and the guy who has been dealing with the problems over there since most of us were born, we wants to go, to help, to fix the problem without picking a side........but no Israel doesn't negotiate with terrorists, any intelligent person can agree both of them are terrorist and insane at killing innocent people.............nobody in our gov will speak out towards a resloution..........

Do you realize this is a huge reason why the middle east doesn't like us?

All I have to say is watch your ****ing mouth. Seriously shut the **** up. I've lost alot of weight to meet the requirements, taken the ASVAB, I'm turning in my background check/medical papers in tomorrow, I have a date to go to MEPS to get my phsyical next week. You just don't do it overnight and instantly become a soldier. Don't ****ing kid yourself that I'm sitting here talking out of my ass I'm doing all the god damn steps to become an Airman and there are some damn fine I-Club members in other branches that have helped me along the way to get me where I am, answer any questions they could, and be a damn good mentor for me through this process. It's really hard for people to understand why I want to enlist and sit there and criticize me and why I shouldn't. Please do me a favor and go **** yourself. I hope you hear me loud and clear now.

As far as it being a "scam" to you, so it's not a scam when we have a leader that you like, but when it's someone you dislike...oh god it's a "scam?" How ****ing biased is that? These men and women do their job day in and day out regardless of who the Commander-in-Chief is. They give up their own freedoms, their own personal time, their own LIVES for us. Also, regardless of what branch, everyone is doing their part and are equally important in the process of protecting our nation and our people so don't even try to give me **** for enlisting in the USAF rather than the USMC or ARMY. I'm done bickering with worthless trash like yourself.

Have you ever served? Your post is ridiculous if you think people enlist for the bonuses. I haven't read the rest of this thread but I'm sure it's stuffed to the gills with diarrhea posts.
Alot of people say to me.... "Be sure to check on bonuses and see what you can get." I personally don't care too much about the bonuses. I'm not enlisting to make bread here. I'm in enlisting into the USAF and know damn well there aren't any bonuses unless you're re-upping pretty much.

I wouldn't say the President "scammed" us. I think he used shotty intellegence and took the PNAC (Project for New American Century) to heart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
He dove the US into a war without a clear strategy and hoped for the best. The Middle East is a complex monster that no one in GWB's administration knows how deal with. History will judge him harshly on his Middle East blunders. And our military and its dedicated personels are left holding the short stick.
Hatteroo, I appreciate your service to our country. But, I think majority of the people are just mad about GWB's Iraq death hole/money pit. And for someone from the Army coming on BAIC to recruit more people to possibly go to Iraq, he'll be looking for a lot of hate. It's sad but, people have a hard time distinguishing between government and military.

I really wish people would rethink their response towards anyone in the military whether they're a recuiter or anyon else. If you don't wish to enlist then simply say "No thank you" in a polite manner. You really don't have to go on a rant or start talking **** about the men and women that protect each and everyone of us. The military may not be perfect but please take the time to realize that these brave men and women protect and fight for your freedom to basically talk ****.

HatterooFTMFW

HatterooFTMFW
Thank you Huck.

Lol, you gotta give ARMY more credit than that...after all they do have Rangers, Special Forces, and Delta Force.
Delta Force PWNS

http://www.nelsonguirado.com/media/users/nguirado/chuckuzi.gif

Chuck Norris is badass. He used to be in the USAF :D

I have a question for all of you in the "Faulty Intel/Bush Lied, Troops Died" camp.

Name one war the USA has participated in that was not bull****....no pun intended?

BTW, IMHO, the correct term for oct1285 is not cherry, but rather "Pogue ass REMF". :)

Paul,
WWII is the first that came to mind. We were attacked. We were not attacked by Iraq. Al-Qaeda attacke us and the President was right to go into Afganistan. IMO and most Americans thought we should focus on killing Bin Laden and committed much more troops in Afganistan. In WWII, Japan attacked and we rightfully fought back. We also went after Germany and Italy because of the Axis of Power association with Japan.

Another war is the Korean war. A free nation's liberty was attacked by communist North Koreans and we had to react.

Vietnam war was the same. Though, Americans did not support it because we lost more than 50k young men in the jungles. The landscape was just too hard for us to fight and our weapons were not as advanced. If we had current technologies things might have been different. But I think the Americans were wrong not to support the troops because they were drafted into it.

The first Gulf war was also righteous because another free nation, Kuwait was attacked by Iraq. We drove Iraq's Republican Guards back into Iraq and contained Saddam. You can argue then that's why we should attack Iraq in the 1st Gulf war and destroyed Saddam in the first place. But Bush senior knew we had no strategy after taking Iraq and the power vacume after Saddam would create chaos in Iraq and destsblize the region. VP Cheney was Bush's Defence Secretay during the first Gulf war and he objected going after Saddam for that reason. Our current President Bush did not see as clearly as his father did 10 years before.

Oh, and one more thing. I don't think Bush lied to the American people about Iraq. I think he got the noncredible intel and used that as his main argument for going into Iraq. It was bad intel and he/his administration did not bother to double/tripple ckeck before making the move. I think Powel suffered greatly as a result, which he did not deserve. He was a fine soldier and wonderful Secretary of State. I wish he would come back somehow. I thought of an anology of this whole 5 pages of debate. It's like the gun and shooter debate. Most people associate the gun as the problem of our crimes, not the shooter. But it's not the tool that's at fault, but rather the user. Our military is the gun of our nation. We need it, just like our 2nd Amendment says. It's the shooter, our nation's leader, who should the responsible for his actions of using the tool.

I respect the military, they do protect us from enemies. But they are the patriots who voluntarily join, and I don't have that heart. And to do somethin' like join the military you gotta have that patriotism.

And before this gets into a HUGE political debate.... The deal is pretty simple. We were going to go into the war no matter what... and I am a democrat, but after speaking to some close friends I can see the republican side of things now.

#1 Compared to Vietnam, where we lost 10k solders a year, we lost 4k in 6 years. So we are doing a lot better than what we used to be doing.
#2 Them boys signed up for it, it isn't a draft. They knew they were gonna be doing this stuff, and they signed up anyways. It shows their patriotism. I salute them.
#3 We haven't been under threat of attack since 911, and those 4k of solders sacrificed their lives for it, and they are doing their job. We haven't been attacked since we went into Iraq, and so it stands that their sacrifices are legitimate as we haven't been attacked ever since.
#4 Whether weapons of mass destruction existed.. to be a powerful nation, we thrive on natural resources. We can't be a powerful nation with an Achilles heel. So whether you like it or not, the US needs oil and it was probably another reason to go into Iraq besides lookin' for weapons. Kindof like a consolation prize.
#5 And pertaining to #4, another reason behind entry into the east is that 1 Global Government is still being worked on... whether you guys realize it or not, that's what the richest people of the US (who are stronger than the president and government itself) are doing.

Don't believe me? Learn.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

Open your eyes to that documentary.

Don't believe me? How about them "National ID cards" that have tracking devices implanted and require you to have them on you at all times... basically means people can watch every exact position you're in... as a matter of fact MIT invented those microscopic chips so cheap... most likely every item in the world CREATED by a human, will have one on it. What's that mean? They can actually track every item you wear, use, buy, sell, etc. Now if that is pretty crazy. It starts with the National ID cards or Health Cards that are going to be REQUIRED to even ride a plane. And they actually release this year... scary.

I have nothing but the most respect for any person that joins the armed forces to protect this country.

But to those that said that every American should be forced to serve, can suck a **** !!!!!!

Not the Army, nor the Navy (Never Again Volunteer Yourself). My son is getting close to being of age and I'll probably sway him towards the Air Force to keep his bottom off of the front lines, this is of after college of course.

As far as the stereotypes? I was in the Navy, RM1 SS/DV, and had I not been a submariner I would have been a lifer. Even having been out over 15 years I still miss the dis/organization, the friends, and the nifty places I've seen(UNITAS run is AWESOME). I got out shortly after Desert Storm and used my GI bill for a little edumacation receiving my MSCS in a few years with credit earned from my Navy schools, although some of my crypto classes yielded zero credits in the real world. These days I'm "just" an IT manager, if you're curious about pay look up IT manager with 10 years experience at about the 90% tile in 95131.

As far as enlisting? I think more people should do it, if everyone was spineless and chose not to serve their country there would be no one to protect the spineless people's rights lol. Please don't fault our service men and women for decisions made by an inept leader.

i guess a had some questions...i took the asvab for the airforce but spiffed my scores to the army for a number of reasons, and the question is how can someone be positive for marijuana and hasnt smoked since 2002??!?!?! so all in all i lost my MOS of imagery analyst for something i didn't do. and i can;t dispute anything... any input would be appreciated

i guess a had some questions...i took the asvab for the airforce but spiffed my scores to the army for a number of reasons, and the question is how can someone be positive for marijuana and hasnt smoked since 2002??!?!?! so all in all i lost my MOS of imagery analyst for something i didn't do. and i can;t dispute anything... any input would be appreciated

Hair test?

All I have to say is watch your ****ing mouth. Seriously shut the **** up. I've lost alot of weight to meet the requirements, taken the ASVAB, I'm turning in my background check/medical papers in tomorrow, I have a date to go to MEPS to get my phsyical next week. You just don't do it overnight and instantly become a soldier. Don't ****ing kid yourself that I'm sitting here talking out of my ass I'm doing all the god damn steps to become an Airman and there are some damn fine I-Club members in other branches that have helped me along the way to get me where I am, answer any questions they could, and be a damn good mentor for me through this process. It's really hard for people to understand why I want to enlist and sit there and criticize me and why I shouldn't. Please do me a favor and go **** yourself. I hope you hear me loud and clear now.

As far as it being a "scam" to you, so it's not a scam when we have a leader that you like, but when it's someone you dislike...oh god it's a "scam?" How ****ing biased is that? These men and women do their job day in and day out regardless of who the Commander-in-Chief is. They give up their own freedoms, their own personal time, their own LIVES for us. Also, regardless of what branch, everyone is doing their part and are equally important in the process of protecting our nation and our people so don't even try to give me **** for enlisting in the USAF rather than the USMC or ARMY. I'm done bickering with worthless trash like yourself.

You're a tool man. Seriously, does what you are really fighting for make any difference to you at all?

Fighting for your country isn't as simple as it use to be. You need to be grown up enough to look at what is really going on, and if you think the current actions of the government are right and moral, well thats sad that you will be armed soon. Granted my experience is very limited, I only know a few who have fought in the current war and are from same general area, but from everything they've said..........they would call you an idiot to your face.

illusion,
well put. It's not the fault of our service men and women for our leaders's actions, as the analogy of the gun and the shooter. Though, I did not serve our country, my father was in the Navy also, chief engineer on a destroyer. People should pay more respect to the soldiers who put their lives on the line for all Americans.

iLogin,

I have no party affiliation, I'm a moderate-conservative. I form my thoughts on the facts I gather. I dissagree with you on some of your arguments.
#1) We lost less in Iraq than Vietnam because our strategy/technology and the nature of the fight in Iraq. We have smart weapons, JDAMs, Hellfires, drones, satelite, etc. that makes killing easier. And not we're not fighting the Iraqie army as we were fighting the entire N. Vietnamese army, more of them, less of us. We are fighting small insurgent cells. More of us, less of them.
#2) I agree with you 100%
#3) Partly agree. All the soldiers including Afghanistan and Iraq prevented us from being attacked again. I think we were just very laxed in our security before the attack, Al-Qaed got lucky.
#4&5) WMD did exist in Iraq, because we sold it to them. But the quantities were low. I can't say for sure if they destroyed them before we came it but, they had no way near the amount of quantities and production capabilities the administration said they had. It's easy to say that since the US is big and powerful and we need a lot of resources, we can invade Iraq just for the oil. What if China (big and powerful and needs more resources than us) invaded Alaska to drill for more oil? Your statement makes light of the argument that we invaded Iraq for the wrong reason. Not quite sure what you meant the "Global government is still being worked on"?

Hair test?

nah, it was a urinalysis. my recruiter said it was most likely a mix up. but i wanted to know if i'm screwed for future jobs regardless of the test being a false negative..

nah, it was a urinalysis. my recruiter said it was most likely a mix up. but i wanted to know if i'm screwed for future jobs regardless of the test being a false negative..

The sample could have been diluted. I'm surprised they didn't ask for another sample.

The sample could have been diluted. I'm surprised they didn't ask for another sample.


yea i was surprised too. i didnt try to dilute, i assumed i was clean. so i think something crazy happened. i know for the airforce its automatic disqualification for pissing hot, but since i DEP'd for the army they told me come back in 45 days.

does anyone know if i can enlist with airforce now that army ****ed me over???

yea i was surprised too. i didnt try to dilute, i assumed i was clean. so i think something crazy happened. i know for the airforce its automatic disqualification for pissing hot, but since i DEP'd for the army they told me come back in 45 days.

does anyone know if i can enlist with airforce now that army ****ed me over???

Most likely you will be a No Go for Air Force once they see the results of your first piss test. Plus, you jumping ship over to the Army probably wouldn't help you very much either when the AF recruiter remembers you did that.

Should've just stuck with the Air Force.

You're a tool man. Seriously, does what you are really fighting for make any difference to you at all?

Fighting for your country isn't as simple as it use to be. You need to be grown up enough to look at what is really going on, and if you think the current actions of the government are right and moral, well thats sad that you will be armed soon. Granted my experience is very limited, I only know a few who have fought in the current war and are from same general area, but from everything they've said..........they would call you an idiot to your face.

Do you even realize what you're saying? I really hope you do learn the hard way sooner or later. I may not be doing front line fighting but I will be doing my part to help those who do. You're nothing than a spoiled punk ***** from what it looks like. You're not even worth my time anymore. Do me a favor and piss off with your jaded ****ing worthless life.

BTW, IMHO, the correct term for oct1285 is not cherry, but rather "Pogue ass REMF". :)

who you calling a pogue ass remf? pogue? maybe. Remf? definitely not. Been to iraq, done convoys, flew in blackhawks, pulled guard duty. If i was a remf i wouldn't have even left garrison.

who you calling a pogue ass remf? pogue? maybe. Remf? definitely not. Been to iraq, done convoys, flew in blackhawks, pulled guard duty. If i was a remf i wouldn't have even left garrison.

So you were a field POG, now you're an office POG. :lol:

I'm probably too chickencrap to serve and likely move to Canada if crap hits the fan, but I'll never talk smack about anyone who actually does serve.

If i were going to the war, i'd join the Marines, not the Army. Why would i put my life in the hands of fellow 'soldiers' that only enlisted because of the bonuses. ****ing rediculous.

Ain't
Ready for
Marines
Yet

But then again, I'm not fighting for this country and you're at least doing something. So kudo's to you, but lets keep this out of a car forum. Thnx.

My
Ass
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment

Muscles
Are
Required
Intelligence
Not
Expected

These are just jokes my buddy who is in the Marines told me lol.

So you were a field POG, now you're an office POG. :lol:

well you got me there. actually I is now a hospital pogue.

Not quite sure what you meant the "Global government is still being worked on"?

Check out my link. It's basically an eye opening documentary that goes behind the explicit and explains the real deal...

What do I mean by implicit?

For example, take the Military Satellite we shot down with cruise missile in outer space...
#1 Yea right... NASA somehow losses control of a secret military satellite? Not really believable. Cover up story.
#2 We showed military superiority across the globe saying somethin' like "We can hit you pretty much anywhere"
#3 If the US just randomly shot missiles into outerspace for fun, I'm sure that countries would see it as a sign of aggression.

If people would just take time to see what all these wars and things we've done around the world, you can see that there is one thing in mind. A One World Government.

Another fact in the movie... The United States have military bases in more than half the worlds existing countries... and obviously there is no other dominating powerhouse like the US with military bases established everywhere...

Another implicit idea... basically saying if we don't like you, we are close enough to hit you anytime we feel like it. Now THAT is global power. If you have a spare 2 hrs, Zeitgeist (the movie is linked on the internet in my post) is pretty clear cut with facts.

^
iLogin,
I haven't watched the documentary yet but it sounds interesting. As for the military satellite we shot down a few months back. It was a malfunctioning spy satellite and its decaying orbit made it unstable and would very likely crash back to earth. All the talk sbout the hydrazine fuel endangering humans and surviving the re-entry is possible but more likely a story to keep tech secrets from other countries. The show of force and ability to shoot it down, from sea I might add, was a message to China (they shot down their satellite last year also) that we can do it from anywhere.

The One World Government is "The New World Order". It's a conspiracy theory. But there are signs that points to it and the US is its head. But I think this has been going on since the dawn of human civilization. Every large culture/society/country wants to dominate its region and world. The US is the most powerful country in the world in its technology/military strength. So, why not have the US as the leader in the OWG? But I don't think that's right. I see the US government as a large corporation like Exxon. The more money it makes, the more it wants to make. And since money=power, you get the US government.

Slow,
I can see your frustrations pertaining to our current military actions overseas. I will state for the record, I believe our Government lied to us when they said that we were invading Iraq to go after WMD's. Rather than giving a dumbed down simplification of why we invaded Iraq, the government thought it would just be easier to say, "wmd's". The truth is, we had to establish a foot print in the middle east. You say there is no importance to this "war", yet I disagree. I feel that this is one of the most important military operations we have conducted since WW2. Iraq was an enemy of the U.S. just as many other countries in the middle east are. We went in, made and example out of Saddam and have established a base of operations next door to our other enemies. We will always be in the middle east. No matter who gets elected to office, they aren't pulling troops out of there. Our enemies are there and now we've made it perfectly clear to them that we will do whatever it takes to maintain the American way of life you, me, and everyone else on this forum has come to enjoy. Our men and women aren't over there eating sand for nothing.


Yeah when the day comes? my ass dude. You are just talking man, if you really believe in what Paul says be a man and go fight, unless you are scared to stand up for what you believe in......

Also as far as nobodies government being perfect, well ours is ****ed big time.........

I know Paul served, I'm just trying to get him to agree that the **** is a scam recently, and that fighting for patriotism and freedom for America is completely different than what we are doing right now. Also no offense to you Paul, but hateroo how the hell do you know how he served or what he did? get off his sack? we've had a lot of solidiers.......in my family as well so don't talk to me..........about that ****, and frankly the wars they fought in were a helluv a lot more important.

I never asked that a country be able to represent every individuals desires (we are way far off from that), but I do believe the government should not be taking advantage of its citizens, sending them off to an illegitimate war, and then ****ing the economy in the meantime....................if you believe in your government right now you are either a dumb****, a rich ******* who will sacrifice humanity for tax cuts, or a complete tool.


If you believe anything that has happened recently has been for the people or in your best interest, may god be with you.

I will agree will Paul we have exactly the gov we deserve..........and that sucks.........I don't feel like I deserve it but..........I can say as a whole we do.

Sorry pal, I'm not trying to discount what the soldiers are doing, and I know it's hard to accept because it makes it seem like they are there for nothing.......

but you sure as hell better not tell me they are fighting for my freedoms right now, cause thats a LIE. The fact is going to war with Iraq has made us look more hypocritical and stupid than ever, that if we had spent some time and money controlling the war machine Israel, then the middle east wouldn't hate us so ******* much, had we at least tried to make it humane.......after fueling/ and birthing the new age inhumanity there. Maybe we'd be a little less likely to be attacked, but all the **** we have done since 2001 has made us more likely to be targeted, and imo rightfully so.

But instead nobody in our gov has the balls to step up, Carter is over there, a helluv a lot better president than our current one, oh yea and the guy who has been dealing with the problems over there since most of us were born, we wants to go, to help, to fix the problem without picking a side........but no Israel doesn't negotiate with terrorists, any intelligent person can agree both of them are terrorist and insane at killing innocent people.............nobody in our gov will speak out towards a resloution..........

Do you realize this is a huge reason why the middle east doesn't like us?

I just read a few posts about the conspiracy theories. Really, do you think the U.S. needs to show the world it can shoot down satellites? The world knows we have the most advanced military. We don't need to flex. Rather we're doing our best to keep most of our high power stuff a secret. We have planes that can shoot down ICBM's in 5 seconds with lasers. The range on these things is the curvature of the earth! We really don't have any reason to show the world we can shoot down a satellite. Why shoot down a spy satellite when we can just send the space shuttle up there to get it and bring it back? The only time you'll see the U.S. use it's military might won't be to prove we can do something, rather to show that we're willing to do something.

who you calling cherry? I'm just asking if anyone has any thoughts about enlisted. If no one does, then no biggie i move on. I'm not concerned about it. I get paid either way thank you very much.

Sorry that rubbed you the wrong way. You said you were on hometown recruiting meaning you're fresh out of training...




































So be sure to crouch down before walking through doors so your stem doesn't snap your head back....






































... ******* cherry.




















.... thanks for your service, though. You're cool in my book.

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The US needed to test its antisatellite SM-3 ABM system. Previously, the Ground Base Mid-Course Defense system only scored 33% hit rate. The SM-3 is a Sea Base Mid-Course Defense system. The satellite shoot-down was the first test on an orbiting vehicle. All the previous tests were on dummy ballistic missiles launched from US soil. This was to prove to ourselves and the world that the sea base system works on satellites also. Yes, the US don't have to prove itself but who says the US government is modest in projecting its military might.

#1) We lost less in Iraq than Vietnam because our strategy/technology and the nature of the fight in Iraq. We have smart weapons, JDAMs, Hellfires, drones, satelite, etc. that makes killing easier. And not we're not fighting the Iraqie army as we were fighting the entire N. Vietnamese army, more of them, less of us. We are fighting small insurgent cells. More of us, less of them.




I think the point he is trying to make though, is people are saying this war is "worse" than Vietnam which is absolutely crazy to say.

yes we have better technology, and the army we are fighting is much smaller... and.... that sums up the point that this is nothing at all like Vietnam.

I mean just look at the reasonings behind Vietnam alone. They were wack.

At least we got a powerful dictator that had been committing genocide for years out of power.

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I think the point he is trying to make though, is people are saying this war is "worse" than Vietnam which is absolutely crazy to say.

yes we have better technology, and the army we are fighting is much smaller... and.... that sums up the point that this is nothing at all like Vietnam.

Agreed, Iraq is no where as bad as Vietnam. And I haven't heard that Iraq is worse than Vietnam. I just hear a lot on the news that people are comparing Bush's Iraq to Johnson's Vietnam and how the Iraq situation is Bush's Vietnam. If we didn't have the technology and still fighting as before in Vietnam, the US soldier death toll would be at least 2-3x higher.

I mean just look at the reasonings behind Vietnam alone. They were wack.

At least we got a powerful dictator that had been committing genocide for years out of power.

I don't think the reasoning behind Vietnam was wack. The N. Vietnamese Army was supported by commnist China, a smaller part Russia, and it used the N. Vietnamese to fight its proxy war with the US. But it was the threatening posture of the communists on the free S. Vietnamese people that caused the US to enter Vietnam. As you know, communism was main enemy of the US, like terroism/Al-Qaeda is now.

There are a lot of countries in Africa that were as bad, if not worse, than Saddam during the same time. There is genocide in Darfur/Sudan by it's own leader. But the US does nothing. And overthrowing Saddam because he was committing genocide on the Kurds was not the reason, according to the President initially, to go to war with Iraq. It was the WMD and Saddam's potentiallity of parking a "dirty bomb in the middle of Manhattan" (according to Cheney).

I have a question, would this thread have brought such an uproar if the guy said he wants to recruit people for the coast guard?

I have a question, would this thread have brought such an uproar if the guy said he wants to recruit people for the coast guard?
Maybe. But realize they're just as much apart of the miltary as the rest of the branches. They're no longer apart of the DOT.

^^thats my point.

If this was a thread about joining the coast guard I don't think anyone would have raised hell... even though its still a branch of the military.

People are just too bias for life.

^^thats my point.

If this was a thread about joining the coast guard I don't think anyone would have raised hell... even though its still a branch of the military.

People are just too bias for life.
Its sad that people are that biased.

this isn't exactly how i pictured this thread would turn out. I was just expecting yay or nay answers

this isn't exactly how i pictured this thread would turn out. I was just expecting yay or nay answers
Yeah sadly it turned to **** real quick. I'd consider but I'm already dedicated to one branch. Hope you've had some success otherwise! :)

this isn't exactly how i pictured this thread would turn out. I was just expecting yay or nay answers

well if u haven't noticed because of all the ramble in here i had some questions that my recruiter cant seem to answer...if u can find me a better MOS than 11b right now ill be one of ur numbers next month.

the situation is i dep'd in as 35G and everything went fine except i failed the UA; andd i dont even smoke! so now i have a failed UA on my record and no way of getting a job with a TS clearance. if u can help me out with that it would be much appreciated!

<- Served in Iraq 3 times. . .
- Deep in the cities
- One in one with the terrorist


First and foremost, everyone is equally entitled to their own opinions in regards to the different issues that have been talked about therein. And that's fine to have those opinions. oct1285 was just asking if anyone was interested. So, if you weren't interested then that's fine; don't join. But if somebody is, then go for it.

For those who are serving or who have served in any branch, Thank you! It's expected for those to question when people don't understand. So that's normal.

Do I believe in war? NO

Does it matter what branch? I would say each branch is detrimental to the different missions. It all depends what the person likes and what they are physically or mentally capable of doing. I've worked with all branches. And each branch had their tough guys, whom were suddenly scared during an attack. Each has their dumb guys, some have their best guys for the job.

Apparantly the military might be combined force; working together as one military just like the other countries...

Last of all, there is more to the war than what is on the news. Everyone has their "individual" mistakes; so don't blame the whole organization. I'm all for it if you want to join, BUT i'm also all for it if you don't want to join. I'm worked with people who are in the military, that were forced to go because they had no other option. Their desire wasn't there. It's just a coincidence that every time someone in the military or government F's up, it was them whom was responsible. . . .


Food for thought: Did you know that there is more terrorist group's than AQIZ? (Al qaida)

this isn't exactly how i pictured this thread would turn out. I was just expecting yay or nay answers

i feel you. . .hope all turns out well. . . where are you stationed at?

oh i'm currently working in alameda right now. I'm on leave before I head off to san antonio, tx

well enjoy your leave bro. . .

well if u haven't noticed because of all the ramble in here i had some questions that my recruiter cant seem to answer...if u can find me a better MOS than 11b right now ill be one of ur numbers next month.

the situation is i dep'd in as 35G and everything went fine except i failed the UA; andd i dont even smoke! so now i have a failed UA on my record and no way of getting a job with a TS clearance. if u can help me out with that it would be much appreciated!

sent u a pm

well if u haven't noticed because of all the ramble in here i had some questions that my recruiter cant seem to answer...if u can find me a better MOS than 11b right now ill be one of ur numbers next month.

the situation is i dep'd in as 35G and everything went fine except i failed the UA; andd i dont even smoke! so now i have a failed UA on my record and no way of getting a job with a TS clearance. if u can help me out with that it would be much appreciated!
If you need more questions answered this site is definently a good one with recruiters and those who are very experienced to help us new guys.

http://forums.military.com/eve/forums

11B is the one of the only MOS's that's "true" military; all others are merely jockstraps.

Don't be a jockstrap.

11B is the one of the only MOS's that's "true" military; all others are merely jockstraps.

Don't be a jockstrap.

Sorry to disappoint. I wanted something more than "jockstrap" to put in the skills section of my resume.

I'm Communist, so I can't join =]

I'm Communist, so I can't join =]

don't ask don't tell, come on in

It appears that I left the wrong impression and message to others. I have respect for ANYONE that serves in the military. Agreed that when the bullets start flying, we're all on the same team. I have my opinions on each branch of our military, and I respect everyone else's opinions. Including the ones that responded to my post.

So is anyone thinking about joining the army? or know of someone who might be interested? I'm currently on hometown recruiting duty and I'm trying to get as much exposure as possible. Whats better than baic;)

I already tried and failed, and I was at rctng CO at the time. How have you fared so far? BAIC....good luck.:)

Not if you're calling in Steel Rain danger close.

Ranger that!

i'm a de anza student and i just decided to walk through the job fair they had today. i happened to make eye contact with the guy at the "go army" desk. he asked me if i was interested and i quickly shot him down with a "no thanks" and a smile. as i walk away, i hear a "you scared?"

couldn't believe the army had to insult me in order to get my attention and enlist. just thought u guys might like to hear..

i'm a de anza student and i just decided to walk through the job fair they had today. i happened to make eye contact with the guy at the "go army" desk. he asked me if i was interested and i quickly shot him down with a "no thanks" and a smile. as i walk away, i hear a "you scared?"

couldn't believe the army had to insult me in order to get my attention and enlist. just thought u guys might like to hear..Because you're already a lost sale. Probably not qualified anyhow.

What makes you think that soldiers are forbidden from disrespecting civilians? Do you think that there is something written in the Manual of Courts Martial that states that soldiers must respect the people they've sworn an oath for protecting your rights and freedoms?

Because you're already a lost sale. Probably not qualified anyhow.

What makes you think that soldiers are forbidden from disrespecting civilians? Do you think that there is something written in the Manual of Courts Martial that states that soldiers must respect the people they've sworn an oath for protecting your rights and freedoms?

Where in **** have you been!?!?!

I was playing the Coco Solo clip to my 8 yr old son the other day & realized I hadn't heard from you in a while.

I agree...one motivated Infantryman is worth, what, one dozen college students?

For you all that say no to the military, you will look back on your life and realize how shallow & empty your being is.

The easy way through life is the least satisfying way through life.

I already tried and failed, and I was at rctng CO at the time. How have you fared so far? BAIC....good luck.:)

no kidding. I didn't know the market in the bay area was so tough. I mean I knew the bay was always liberal but it seemed like when I was in high school a lot of people were joining, but I guess times have changed. I do not envy these recruiters. They got a hard, stressful job. The station I was at worked 12hour days and sometimes saturdays.

each recruiter has their own style...
i'm a de anza student and i just decided to walk through the job fair they had today. i happened to make eye contact with the guy at the "go army" desk. he asked me if i was interested and i quickly shot him down with a "no thanks" and a smile. as i walk away, i hear a "you scared?"

couldn't believe the army had to insult me in order to get my attention and enlist. just thought u guys might like to hear..

i'm a de anza student and i just decided to walk through the job fair they had today. i happened to make eye contact with the guy at the "go army" desk. he asked me if i was interested and i quickly shot him down with a "no thanks" and a smile. as i walk away, i hear a "you scared?"

couldn't believe the army had to insult me in order to get my attention and enlist. just thought u guys might like to hear..

Well, are you scared? Seems like a valid question, and an easy way to engage someone in conversation. The very fact that you felt insulted says a bit about your character.

no kidding. I didn't know the market in the bay area was so tough. I mean I knew the bay was always liberal but it seemed like when I was in high school a lot of people were joining, but I guess times have changed. I do not envy these recruiters. They got a hard, stressful job. The station I was at worked 12hour days and sometimes saturdays.

Remember, Classical Liberalism = good.
Bay Area/Socialist/Fascist Liberalism = bad.

Where in **** have you been!?!?!

I was playing the Coco Solo clip to my 8 yr old son the other day & realized I hadn't heard from you in a while.

I agree...one motivated Infantryman is worth, what, one dozen college students?

For you all that say no to the military, you will look back on your life and realize how shallow & empty your being is.

The easy way through life is the least satisfying way through life.

Been leading the soldier-as-student life, and not doing a very good job of it.

The equation goes something like this:

Infantry Airborne Ranger officer husband (OH) = constantly busy + purpose + excellent people + steady, respectable paycheck; thus OH + Army wife = happy marriage.

Infantry officer-into-Information Systems Mgmt officer at college learning his new trade (OH + lost) = bored + difficulty focusing on purpose + no camaraderie + bored + disengaged + bored + no new daily challenges + bored + no knuckleheaded privates + bored; thus (OH + lost) = (OH + Army wife) - wife & kids.

I'm even sad to say that the car isn't even much of an interest any more. Of course the car was one of the reasons give. lolno kidding. I didn't know the market in the bay area was so tough. I mean I knew the bay was always liberal but it seemed like when I was in high school a lot of people were joining, but I guess times have changed. I do not envy these recruiters. They got a hard, stressful job. The station I was at worked 12hour days and sometimes saturdays.Fortunately, though the station commander may have given you a daily quota, your entire performance rating isn't based upon contracts like for those poor souls. What's ironic, but sooooooo par for the course is that recruiters working the Bay Area are judged by the same standards as recruiters working the more 'patriotic' (for lack of a better word) areas across the nation.

I honestly am not saying that people who live in the BA are any less patriotic than any where else in America, but from a purely recruiting numbers-wise perspective, that word is often used in the USAREC world to denote how lower net enlistment areas such as SF or Oakland compare historically against higher netting areas like Phoenix or the midwest.

Even though I only did 4 years and got out 5 years ago I still miss how things got done in the military. Now as a chef it can get pretty hectic and stressful on a busy evening. It's not the same stress of knowing you need to prepare yourself for a 30mile hump with a small human on your back or the stress of other training. It's a different stress altogether... but I can tell you it's very real at times. I think sometimes I'll pass the **** out or die of a heart attack.

It's astounding how much the work ethic lacks for most people in my industry. I haven't missed one day of work since I got out and only missed a week of work in the Army for a spider bite. Looking back, a team of sham-sheild wearing E4s could run circles around most people I work with. It's so frustrating.

I'm currently 2nd in my COC and deal with a boss that's not willing to accept any responsibility and a bunch of young and older incompetent *******s I can't smoke the piss out of in order to square them away. Same thing in every sector of corporate America I suppose. I can't wait to be boss someday. Hopefully my work ethic will pay dividends and i'll be at the top soon. And if being a success at my own restaurant means being an incompetent, money-tight prick, I'll be happy knowing I saved face as I ride my restaurant into the ground.

My point of this rant is I'm not really sure if the Army had something to do with me wanting to take pride in whatever I do today even though I like to think it did play an important role.

...a bunch of young and older incompetent *******s I can't smoke the piss out of in order to square them away.I'd argue that wall-to-wall counseling is still an accepted and effective method of leadership in any sector of society; that is if it is done with a modicum of sublety, refinement, and taste.;)

FM 22-102 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=7&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fastpacific.com%2Fhumordocs%2 Ffm22-1021.doc&ei=wvUtSKGWJ5TgigHo3engAQ&usg=AFQjCNFKKvgj8XIenon3Lks7Vah-NdbFpg&sig2=SWWP0O3TM1t5qrprQTuTVA)

I'd argue that wall-to-wall counseling is still an accepted and effective method of leadership in any sector of society; that is if it is done with a modicum of sublety, refinement, and taste.;)

FM 22-102 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=7&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fastpacific.com%2Fhumordocs%2 Ffm22-1021.doc&ei=wvUtSKGWJ5TgigHo3engAQ&usg=AFQjCNFKKvgj8XIenon3Lks7Vah-NdbFpg&sig2=SWWP0O3TM1t5qrprQTuTVA)

i know the Marines and Army still have "motivated counselings"
i'm active duty, and most soldiers/marines would prefer getting taken out back then a paper trail

i just found out anyone in CA can get a license plate with "veteren" on it. Thats kinda stupid, granted the funds go towards the VA but it doesn't mean anything if any joe blow can get it. well thats my opinion

I'm not to pleased with the Air Force right now. ****ers have me stuck up **** creek without a paddle.

i just found out anyone in CA can get a license plate with "veteren" on it. Thats kinda stupid, granted the funds go towards the VA but it doesn't mean anything if any joe blow can get it. well thats my opinion

Wrong.

It's to show support, not to be a poser. The plate doesn't signify that someone is a veteran. It simply means that the money they spent on getting the special insignia goes to support California VA groups.

Also, it's spelled "veteran".

i know the Marines and Army still have "motivated counselings"
i'm active duty, and most soldiers/marines would prefer getting taken out back then a paper trail


Not me. I can honestly say I should have taken the article 15 or whatever they could have given me looking back on some of the "counseling" I got as a new Soldier from a particular ******* squad leader. Hands down.

Knowing what I know now I should have went directly to the 1SG with a black pen in hand ready to start a paper-trail (or to address the problem) rather than deal with an ineffective leader's lengthy hazing (months) for being minutes late on DRF1. I can hear him now... "I hate the 82nd, I hate my wife... get in the hallway!" :mad:

I did take my share of counseling sessions from other leaders I liked. Gladly so. Still keep in touch with some.

Well, are you scared? Seems like a valid question, and an easy way to engage someone in conversation. The very fact that you felt insulted says a bit about your character.

I think you're getting the wrong impression. The way he asked if I was scared was condescending and with a redneck kind of tone and attitude. Am I scared to join the Army or any other military branch? No, I'm not scared, but just because I'm not scared of something doesn't mean I have to do it. I go to De Anza because I want an education and to transfer out to a UC or state university. I have other things that I need to be worrying about right now and the wars in the middle east are not my #1 priority. However, I do thank the men and women that serve this country that allow me to even have the option to continue on in life and receive a good education. So to answer your question, No, I am not scared to join the Army. But would I drop everything I had right now to join? Now about my character. Did I feel insulted? Its kind of a 50/50. Half me was pissed that he can make an assumption that because I didn't want to join proved I was scared to fight for my country, which is completely false. Then the other half of me was completely dumbfounded. In this country's current state. Declining economy, stagnant wars in iraq, and low on enlisted men; you think they would show some effort to enlist people. But no, instead, they try to harass me. Thats a horrible ****ing "tactic" to get people to enlist. Whatever, I'm done about talking about this topic. Say what you want to say.

Because you're already a lost sale. Probably not qualified anyhow.

What makes you think that soldiers are forbidden from disrespecting civilians? Do you think that there is something written in the Manual of Courts Martial that states that soldiers must respect the people they've sworn an oath for protecting your rights and freedoms?

hahah wow. "probably not qualified anyhow" is that so. and you know me how? all you know about me is that im in college and live in the bay area.

At no point did I say that soldiers are forbidden from disrespecting civilians. I was just amazed that they would even do that. Like I've said before, anyone who is out there fighting and protecting this country has my respect. But I never thought that they would expect us to bow down to them because they risked their lives. Just because they're in the military and that i'm a civilian doesn't make me a *****.

I can tell you're really proud of the military, and maybe you might have some military background of some sort. If you walked through that job fair, and if you were in a rush to get somewhere, and shot down their request with a "no thank you, im in a hurry" and heard them reply "you scared?" you'd get offended too.

hahah wow. "probably not qualified anyhow" is that so. and you know me how? all you know about me is that im in college and live in the bay area.

At no point did I say that soldiers are forbidden from disrespecting civilians. I was just amazed that they would even do that. Like I've said before, anyone who is out there fighting and protecting this country has my respect. But I never thought that they would expect us to bow down to them because they risked their lives. Just because they're in the military and that i'm a civilian doesn't make me a *****.

I can tell you're really proud of the military, and maybe you might have some military background of some sort. If you walked through that job fair, and if you were in a rush to get somewhere, and shot down their request with a "no thank you, im in a hurry" and heard them reply "you scared?" you'd get offended too.

You never did answer the question :lol:

Also keep in mind, they are out there looking for a certain type of person. If you would have responded with a "No...", then that's a signal that you might have the character they are looking for. Their not looking for ass kissing interns or overpaid desk jockies, their looking for motivated people who want to work hard and with pride. It's a very demanding profession and recruting sounds low in the bay area, so like any other business, the recruiters will be aggressive. It wasn't meant to offend you, it was just a test.

Wrong.

It's to show support, not to be a poser. The plate doesn't signify that someone is a veteran. It simply means that the money they spent on getting the special insignia goes to support California VA groups.

Also, it's spelled "veteran".

yeah i know its to show support. That was my opinion on the matter. I always thought it meant you were a veterAn, most other states require u to show proof to get a veterans plate. It was news to me

yeah i know its to show support. That was my opinion on the matter. I always thought it meant you were a veterAn, most other states require u to show proof to get a veterans plate. It was news to me

Roger that. No worries.

I don't think I've seen or known of any Ca issue Vet plates that did not actually belong to a Veteran. I did, however, see a CA "Congressional Medal of Honor" # plate with a woman driving by herself. Not sure where the actual recipient was but you can be damn sure you need verification for those.

I think you're getting the wrong impression. The way he asked if I was scared was condescending and with a redneck kind of tone and attitude. Am I scared to join the Army or any other military branch? No, I'm not scared, but just because I'm not scared of something doesn't mean I have to do it. I go to De Anza because I want an education and to transfer out to a UC or state university. I have other things that I need to be worrying about right now and the wars in the middle east are not my #1 priority. However, I do thank the men and women that serve this country that allow me to even have the option to continue on in life and receive a good education. So to answer your question, No, I am not scared to join the Army. But would I drop everything I had right now to join? Now about my character. Did I feel insulted? Its kind of a 50/50. Half me was pissed that he can make an assumption that because I didn't want to join proved I was scared to fight for my country, which is completely false. Then the other half of me was completely dumbfounded. In this country's current state. Declining economy, stagnant wars in iraq, and low on enlisted men; you think they would show some effort to enlist people. But no, instead, they try to harass me. Thats a horrible ****ing "tactic" to get people to enlist. Whatever, I'm done about talking about this topic. Say what you want to say.

yeah, you are a ***** for being scared.........but the guy sitting in the recruiting office and recruiting people off to their deaths for a waste of a war......he's not a ***** he has a uniform.

sorry but im going to be real, solider or not........taking part of an overall problem is not moral.........................
by fighting you are destroying our country and squeezing out all the money we do have to keep us afloat.......

hell i'd even say you are unamerican.

Fighting in Iraq is not the same as fighting for American and for freedom........

you are fightin for the guys in power, and if you are too dumb to see it......sucks for you.

yeah, you are a ***** for being scared.........but the guy sitting in the recruiting office and recruiting people off to their deaths for a waste of a war......he's not a ***** he has a uniform.

sorry but im going to be real, solider or not........taking part of an overall problem is not moral.........................
by fighting you are destroying our country and squeezing out all the money we do have to keep us afloat.......

hell i'd even say you are unamerican.

Fighting in Iraq is not the same as fighting for American and for freedom........

you are fightin for the guys in power, and if you are too dumb to see it......sucks for you.

And you're working for a paycheck paying taxes for the guys in power and obeying the laws of the guys in power. It's all perspective. Soldiers, sailors, marines, and airdales are all working for a living like the rest of us are.

People see things the way they want to see them. I'm sorry you feel that way.

anyone ever watch that PBS documentary called "Carrier" The one where they film life aboard the Nimitz when they got deployed to the gulf. They sure do complain a lot about being on a boat for 6months. At least they have running hot water, toilets, and a px. They have it better than some thats deployed. And is it really a deployment? Its a 6month deployment but they spend 2 months getting there from san diego, another 2 in the Persian gulf, then another 2 going back. I thought the army had some crappy jobs but the Navy has a couple that tops us on the crappyness scale.

anyone ever watch that PBS documentary called "Carrier" The one where they film life aboard the Nimitz when they got deployed to the gulf. They sure do complain a lot about being on a boat for 6months. At least they have running hot water, toilets, and a px. They have it better than some thats deployed. And is it really a deployment? Its a 6month deployment but they spend 2 months getting there from san diego, another 2 in the Persian gulf, then another 2 going back. I thought the army had some crappy jobs but the Navy has a couple that tops us on the crappyness scale.

Well if you're an 11B you could be living out of a mulhallah (small village in Iraq) with the locals, patrolling out in sector. Essentially waiting on a VBIED or IED to show up. Makes sitting on a boat seem great.

Well if you're an 11B you could be living out of a mulhallah (small village in Iraq) with the locals, patrolling out in sector. Essentially waiting on a VBIED or IED to show up. Makes sitting on a boat seem great.

thats what i'm saying. The documentary makes people on that boat seem like a bunch of babies. And they interview this one guy who's been in the navy 3 years but is still an E3, I mean come on. 3 years?

anyone ever watch that PBS documentary called "Carrier" The one where they film life aboard the Nimitz when they got deployed to the gulf. They sure do complain a lot about being on a boat for 6months. At least they have running hot water, toilets, and a px. They have it better than some thats deployed. And is it really a deployment? Its a 6month deployment but they spend 2 months getting there from san diego, another 2 in the Persian gulf, then another 2 going back. I thought the army had some crappy jobs but the Navy has a couple that tops us on the crappyness scale.

Try it. I have yet to meet anyone that's been on deployment and hasn't complained about it. And what does it matter if you spend 2 months headed one way and two months headed the other? You're still stuck in the middle of the ocean with people you hate somewhere near the hot ass equator.

Try it. I have yet to meet anyone that's been on deployment and hasn't complained about it. And what does it matter if you spend 2 months headed one way and two months headed the other? You're still stuck in the middle of the ocean with people you hate somewhere near the hot ass equator.

i'm just saying it could be worse besides being stuck on a boat. and being deployed for 6 months isn't nearly as bad as being deployed for 12-15months. I'm just saying they don't know how lucky they are compared to others.

i'm just saying it could be worse besides being stuck on a boat. and being deployed for 6 months isn't nearly as bad as being deployed for 12-15months. I'm just saying they don't know how lucky they are compared to others.

Oh I'm sure they do. Everyone has to deal with the choices they make. I chose the Navy for the advanced electronics training (I just missed qualifying for the nuclear program *thankfully*). But that electronics training also meant a 6 year enlistment with the first 1.5 years in training. And both of my deployments went for 7 months.

Ways to Simulate Navy Life at Home (http://www.goatlocker.org/resources/nav/simulate.htm)

Sleep on the shelf in your closet.
Replace the door with a curtain.
Four hours after you go to sleep, have your wife whip open the curtain, shine a flashlight in your eyes, and mumble, "Sorry wrong rack".
Build a wall across the middle of your bathtub and move the showerhead down to your chest level.
When you take showers make sure you turn off the water while soaping.
Every time there is a thunderstorm, go sit in a wobbly rocking chair and rock as hard as you can until you're nauseous.
Put lube oil in your humidifier instead of water and set it to "high".
Don't watch TV except for movies in the middle of the night. Also, have your family vote on which movie to watch, and then show a different one.
Leave your lawnmower running in your living room for 24 hours a day for the proper noise level.
Have the paperboy give you a haircut.
Once a week blow compressed air up your chimney, making sure the wind carries the soot across to your neighbor's house. Laugh at him when he curses you.
Eake up every night and have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on stale bread. Optional: canned ravioli or cold soup.
Set your alarm clock to go off at random times during the night. When it goes off, jump out of bed, get dressed as fast as you can, then run into your backyard and break out the garden hose.
Once a month take apart every major appliance and then put them back together again.
Use 18 scoops of coffee per pot and allow it to sit for 5-6 days before drinking.
Invite 100+ people you don't really like to come and visit for a couple of months.
Install a fluorescent lamp on the bottom of your coffee table and lie under it to read books.
Raise the threshold and lower the top sills on your front and back doors so that you either trip over the threshold or hit your head on the sill every time you pass through.
Every so often, throw your cat into the swimming pool, shout "man overboard, ship recovery!", run into the kitchen and sweep all the pots/pans/dishes off the counter onto the floor, then yell at your wife for not having the place "stowed for sea".
Put on the headphones from your stereo (don't plug them in). Go stand in front of your stove. Say (to no one in particular) "stove manned and ready". Stand there for 3-4 hours. Say (once again to nobody) "stove secured". Roll up the headphone cord and put it away.
When it rains. Get two empty coke bottles, tie them together, and hang them around your neck. Go outside and stand in the rain for four hours. From time to time look through the coke bottles and observe the horizon and lightning.
Put on a clean white suit, then go change the oil in your car.

i just found out anyone in CA can get a license plate with "veteren" on it. Thats kinda stupid, granted the funds go towards the VA but it doesn't mean anything if any joe blow can get it. well thats my opinion

My Plate:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f334/dbtuned/100_2035.jpg

Ways to Simulate Navy Life at Home (http://www.goatlocker.org/resources/nav/simulate.htm)

Sleep on the shelf in your closet.
Replace the door with a curtain.
Four hours after you go to sleep, have your wife whip open the curtain, shine a flashlight in your eyes, and mumble, "Sorry wrong rack".
Build a wall across the middle of your bathtub and move the showerhead down to your chest level.
When you take showers make sure you turn off the water while soaping.
Every time there is a thunderstorm, go sit in a wobbly rocking chair and rock as hard as you can until you're nauseous.
Put lube oil in your humidifier instead of water and set it to "high".
Don't watch TV except for movies in the middle of the night. Also, have your family vote on which movie to watch, and then show a different one.
Leave your lawnmower running in your living room for 24 hours a day for the proper noise level.
Have the paperboy give you a haircut.
Once a week blow compressed air up your chimney, making sure the wind carries the soot across to your neighbor's house. Laugh at him when he curses you.
Eake up every night and have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on stale bread. Optional: canned ravioli or cold soup.
Set your alarm clock to go off at random times during the night. When it goes off, jump out of bed, get dressed as fast as you can, then run into your backyard and break out the garden hose.
Once a month take apart every major appliance and then put them back together again.
Use 18 scoops of coffee per pot and allow it to sit for 5-6 days before drinking.
Invite 100+ people you don't really like to come and visit for a couple of months.
Install a fluorescent lamp on the bottom of your coffee table and lie under it to read books.
Raise the threshold and lower the top sills on your front and back doors so that you either trip over the threshold or hit your head on the sill every time you pass through.
Every so often, throw your cat into the swimming pool, shout "man overboard, ship recovery!", run into the kitchen and sweep all the pots/pans/dishes off the counter onto the floor, then yell at your wife for not having the place "stowed for sea".
Put on the headphones from your stereo (don't plug them in). Go stand in front of your stove. Say (to no one in particular) "stove manned and ready". Stand there for 3-4 hours. Say (once again to nobody) "stove secured". Roll up the headphone cord and put it away.
When it rains. Get two empty coke bottles, tie them together, and hang them around your neck. Go outside and stand in the rain for four hours. From time to time look through the coke bottles and observe the horizon and lightning.
Put on a clean white suit, then go change the oil in your car.

That's freakin classic dude! Thanks for sharing that one. I'm gonna go secure for sea and man the kitchen stove now :lol:

That's freakin classic dude! Thanks for sharing that one. I'm gonna go secure for sea and man the kitchen stove now :lol:

could someone fill me in on the funny?

My Plate:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f334/dbtuned/100_2035.jpg

Please for the love of God tell me this is really your license place. I've always been against the use of the word "hooah" except in the most desperate of circumstances but that my friend is hooah. Now go beat your face.

could someone fill me in on the funny?

You had to be there.






POST# 2000

WOOHOO!!!!

could someone fill me in on the funny?

I wasn't even stupid enough to join the Navy & I find the funny!!

Here's my favorite...Skippy's List (http://skippyslist.com/list/)



2. My proper military title is “Specialist Schwarz” not “Princess Anastasia”.

112. When saluting a “leg” officer, an appropriate greeting is not “Airborne leads the wa- oh…sorry sir”.

118. Burn pits for classified material are not revel fires - therefore it is wrong to dance naked around them.


152. The following items do not exist: Keys to the Drop Zone, A box of grid squares, blinker fluid, winter air for tires, canopy lights, or Chem-Light ® batteries.

210. Must not make T-shirts up depicting a pig with the writing “Eat Pork or Die” in Arabic to bring as civilian attire when preparing to deploy to a primarily Muslim country.

I guess I'll contribute with some lame ones

how can you tell someones just been back from basic training?

1. He goes through the airport metal detector yelling "NO brass, No ammo!"
2. He makes up a fire guard roster for everyone in the family and leaves himself off the roster
3. He side steps through the kitchen when its chow time
4. He stays in step with strangers while walking down the street

1. He goes through the airport metal detector yelling "NO brass, No ammo!"


I will definitely be using this one the next time I fly with my guys.

Please for the love of God tell me this is really your license place. I've always been against the use of the word "hooah" except in the most desperate of circumstances but that my friend is hooah. Now go beat your face.

Yes, that is the plate on my STi:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f334/dbtuned/Subaru/100_5619.jpg