Remember the Subway Superman? My buddy claims to have some background here....
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Remember the Subway Superman? My buddy claims to have some background here....
My buddy said that the Subway Superman was just trying to steal the guy's wallet...
But seriously, do y'all think an anyone from another race would have been showered in so many gifts? It sure says a lot about the state of race in America.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070104/...rk_subway_hero
But seriously, do y'all think an anyone from another race would have been showered in so many gifts? It sure says a lot about the state of race in America.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070104/...rk_subway_hero
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Originally Posted by Salty
I don't think race had anything to do with this case. What the guy did was pretty amazing.
Dunno man, I seriously think that either folks gave for publicity (Trump) or because of race. I've never heard of a Hero's kids getting scholarships before.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
My buddy said that the Subway Superman was just trying to steal the guy's wallet...
But seriously, do y'all think an anyone from another race would have been showered in so many gifts? It sure says a lot about the state of race in America.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070104/...rk_subway_hero
But seriously, do y'all think an anyone from another race would have been showered in so many gifts? It sure says a lot about the state of race in America.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070104/...rk_subway_hero
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Here's my take on heroism: the more the hero relates to joe-public the better.
When I was in the Army there were a couple instances where I read some Soldier saved a family from a burning building and one saved a couple drowning children. The drowning one happened on the Chattahoochee river when a man put his family picnic on hold for two struggling young swimmers. He saved them and died on the way to the hospital IIRC. These are two I only heard of in 4 years of active duty. May have been more that I never heard of. Both men earned the Soldier's Medal (one posthumously), the highest peacetime honor to be had. Each incident made local news and got printed in military installation papers. None got mainstream hype.
Then you have Police officers, Firemen and rescue personnel that put their lives on the line each day. A lot of them pay the ultimate price for unheard of heroism and it'll only makes local news at best.
This guy was a little scruffy and didn't match the profile for someone with such gusto. People could relate to him. Without thinking twice he jumped onto the hot tracks leaving his children behind. A very compelling story and I tip my hat to him for his deed.
I do get bitter hearing that he gets money here and there despite all the acts mentioned above that take place regularly but that's not his problem.
When I was in the Army there were a couple instances where I read some Soldier saved a family from a burning building and one saved a couple drowning children. The drowning one happened on the Chattahoochee river when a man put his family picnic on hold for two struggling young swimmers. He saved them and died on the way to the hospital IIRC. These are two I only heard of in 4 years of active duty. May have been more that I never heard of. Both men earned the Soldier's Medal (one posthumously), the highest peacetime honor to be had. Each incident made local news and got printed in military installation papers. None got mainstream hype.
Then you have Police officers, Firemen and rescue personnel that put their lives on the line each day. A lot of them pay the ultimate price for unheard of heroism and it'll only makes local news at best.
This guy was a little scruffy and didn't match the profile for someone with such gusto. People could relate to him. Without thinking twice he jumped onto the hot tracks leaving his children behind. A very compelling story and I tip my hat to him for his deed.
I do get bitter hearing that he gets money here and there despite all the acts mentioned above that take place regularly but that's not his problem.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
So do you think the guy's kids got scholarships because they happened to be there with him when it happened?
And I think it was 100% publicity for Trump and others to give money. The proof is in my last post in that people perform heroic acts all the time that never get the coverage they deserve. There's no way Trump and others would of given a red cent if it hadn't made the news like it has. He's one of the most cutthroat businessmen in the country. It's always business...
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
Leave it up to you to turn it into something racial. Your crap is seriously played out man.
This guy did something great, and he actually seems like a nice guy. He basically said he's gonna milk and enjoy his 15 seconds of fame, but he's getting rewarded as if he were some bumb on the street that needs lifting up.
I'll say it again.. I've NEVER seen anything like how he and his kids were rewarded, and I think it's at least partially racially motivated.
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I just think the scholarship is motivated by the fact this guy basically abandoned his kids to save this guy. They could have been without a father and that much more unlikely to attend college.
But yeah, I'm sure race does play a part but to what point we'll never know. For example, I can imagine if someone with a Muslim name did the same thing then Nancy Pelosi would be at the opening bell of the NYSE with him. I guess the best way to research this is to figure out if other similar acts of heroism got such national recognition.
But yeah, I'm sure race does play a part but to what point we'll never know. For example, I can imagine if someone with a Muslim name did the same thing then Nancy Pelosi would be at the opening bell of the NYSE with him. I guess the best way to research this is to figure out if other similar acts of heroism got such national recognition.
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Originally Posted by Salty
I just think the scholarship is motivated by the fact this guy basically abandoned his kids to save this guy. They could have been without a father and that much more unlikely to attend college.
But yeah, I'm sure race does play a part but to what point we'll never know. For example, I can imagine if someone with a Muslim name did the same thing then Nancy Pelosi would be at the opening bell of the NYSE with him. I guess the best way to research this is to figure out if other similar acts of heroism got such national recognition.
But yeah, I'm sure race does play a part but to what point we'll never know. For example, I can imagine if someone with a Muslim name did the same thing then Nancy Pelosi would be at the opening bell of the NYSE with him. I guess the best way to research this is to figure out if other similar acts of heroism got such national recognition.
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Originally Posted by Salty
Here's my take on heroism: the more the hero relates to joe-public the better.
When I was in the Army there were a couple instances where I read some Soldier saved a family from a burning building and one saved a couple drowning children. The drowning one happened on the Chattahoochee river when a man put his family picnic on hold for two struggling young swimmers. He saved them and died on the way to the hospital IIRC. These are two I only heard of in 4 years of active duty. May have been more that I never heard of. Both men earned the Soldier's Medal (one posthumously), the highest peacetime honor to be had. Each incident made local news and got printed in military installation papers. None got mainstream hype.
Then you have Police officers, Firemen and rescue personnel that put their lives on the line each day. A lot of them pay the ultimate price for unheard of heroism and it'll only makes local news at best.
This guy was a little scruffy and didn't match the profile for someone with such gusto. People could relate to him. Without thinking twice he jumped onto the hot tracks leaving his children behind. A very compelling story and I tip my hat to him for his deed.
I do get bitter hearing that he gets money here and there despite all the acts mentioned above that take place regularly but that's not his problem.
When I was in the Army there were a couple instances where I read some Soldier saved a family from a burning building and one saved a couple drowning children. The drowning one happened on the Chattahoochee river when a man put his family picnic on hold for two struggling young swimmers. He saved them and died on the way to the hospital IIRC. These are two I only heard of in 4 years of active duty. May have been more that I never heard of. Both men earned the Soldier's Medal (one posthumously), the highest peacetime honor to be had. Each incident made local news and got printed in military installation papers. None got mainstream hype.
Then you have Police officers, Firemen and rescue personnel that put their lives on the line each day. A lot of them pay the ultimate price for unheard of heroism and it'll only makes local news at best.
This guy was a little scruffy and didn't match the profile for someone with such gusto. People could relate to him. Without thinking twice he jumped onto the hot tracks leaving his children behind. A very compelling story and I tip my hat to him for his deed.
I do get bitter hearing that he gets money here and there despite all the acts mentioned above that take place regularly but that's not his problem.


