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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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WRX VS STi

i know plenty of these threads have been made and im srry but i just got an 05 WRX and was thinking bout moding it. Then i thought why not just keep the car for a year and then just trade it in for an STi. What do u guys think. i wanna mod but then its gonna cost way more than the STi
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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or you can just save a little more for the sti...but up to you...
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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If you just got the 05 WRX, you will lose alot when you trade in most likely...you have to look at the "is the loss of money on the WRX going to be worth it" factor.

IF keeping the WRX for a year, I would get mods for it that you know will work on an STI later, that way you won't be going through the pre-sale part out that most go through.

There are alot of suspension parts that will cross over, as well as exhaust parts. I would look at what you could buy that you can later swap over to the STI.
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If you just got the 05 WRX, you will lose alot when you trade in most likely...you have to look at the "is the loss of money on the WRX going to be worth it" factor.

IF keeping the WRX for a year, I would get mods for it that you know will work on an STI later, that way you won't be going through the pre-sale part out that most go through.

There are alot of suspension parts that will cross over, as well as exhaust parts. I would look at what you could buy that you can later swap over to the STI.


thats a good point too...
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Whether you agree or not, you will lose money due to depreciation of the car when you trade it in. Also, you will spend more, unless you sell your WRX instead.

In regards to modification... how much are you looking to spend? In my opinion, what you're saying does not make sense. You want to modify the car right? The WRX can be modified and come close, if not better than the STi.

Now, modify the STi, then it will cost you more.

My input...

STi price + modifications = more than you'd spend on a WRX.
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Whether you agree or not, you will lose money due to depreciation of the car when you trade it in. Also, you will spend more, unless you sell your WRX instead.

In regards to modification... how much are you looking to spend? In my opinion, what you're saying does not make sense. You want to modify the car right? The WRX can be modified and come close, if not better than the STi.

Now, modify the STi, then it will cost you more.

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STi price + modifications = more than you'd spend on a WRX.


Dont think youll spend more in a sti on mods....in order for a wrx to run 13 flat or even hit 12.99 on 1/4 mile,,,you got to spend atleast 4-5k... on a sti...not even that much...just my view...
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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mod, don't sell

Look at the math...if you unload your WRX in a year, you will have probably about $4000, maybe more, JUST in negative equity on the car, which means you're functionally paying $36,000 (plus tax) for an STI.

I'm assuming, for the purposes of simplicity that you paid about $25,000 for your WRX, after taxes, fees, etc. Honestly, it really doesn't matter though.

A stock WRX can approach the performance of an STI with (as mentioned) between 4-5K in mods.

If you spet 5K +25K for the WRX, that's 30K, $2K less than MSRP for an STI, and about $6K less than what it would cost YOU to get into an STi with your negative equity. This is not to mention the reduced insurance of a WRX vs STI.
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Originally Posted by LUvikes29
Look at the math...if you unload your WRX in a year, you will have probably about $4000, maybe more, JUST in negative equity on the car, which means you're functionally paying $36,000 (plus tax) for an STI.

I'm assuming, for the purposes of simplicity that you paid about $25,000 for your WRX, after taxes, fees, etc. Honestly, it really doesn't matter though.

A stock WRX can approach the performance of an STI with (as mentioned) between 4-5K in mods.

If you spet 5K +25K for the WRX, that's 30K, $2K less than MSRP for an STI, and about $6K less than what it would cost YOU to get into an STi with your negative equity. This is not to mention the reduced insurance of a WRX vs STI.
Very good point mentioned above...

First consider WHY you want the STi... Exclusivity? It's in our nature to want the best, and once we're settled with the best, we want more... So getting an STi will not stop you from modding... If it's in your blood, it's in your blood.

Ask yourself what YOU would be pleased with... Performance wise, interior wise, exclusivity, comfort, etc...

You can get a solid performing and reliable wrx under 30k, running 5 flat in the 0-60, and just shy of mid 13's... I'm talking reliable. ECU reflash, and just opening up the intake and exhaust ends... replacing your hoses with faster flowing silicon materials. NO engine mods, and being easy on the tranny. While still enjoying the more incognito-style of the WRX, whereas an STi is constantly stared at and "challenged" by boy racers...

No matter what you get, or what you do to what you get... There will always be something faster, more exclusive, or newer... Just factor in YOUR NEEDS and go from there... My personal opinion would be to enjoy the vehicle you have and personalize it to your liking... But if its the MUST-HAVE exclusivity of the STi that you just have to have... the above post is absolutely correct... you are losing about 4k in equity.

Enjoy!

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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exclusivity

your exclusivity point on the STI is a valid one, and if being able to say "I have an STI" is worth the money to you, than go for it. It's guys like you that keep salespeople like me in buisness.

However, I could make a fairly convincing if longwinded argument that a well modded WRX is more exclusive than an STI. After all, if you mod tastefully, and (as boost addict emphasized) with a strong eye on durability (e.g. nothing purchased on e-bay), you can have a 13 second WRX that is not only durable, daily drivable, and faster than anyone really needs a car to be, but if you're into the exclusivity, it doesn't cost much more to dress up the interior, throw on a few exterior mods, maybe wheels, spoiler, tint, or even replacing lights, hood, or body kit. Then the car is truly unique.
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Originally Posted by thunder_sti
Dont think youll spend more in a sti on mods....in order for a wrx to run 13 flat or even hit 12.99 on 1/4 mile,,,you got to spend atleast 4-5k... on a sti...not even that much...just my view...
You missed my point. I'm talking about the whole pricing of the car not just the mods itself. You buy the STi, with the trade-in, you lose money that way. Now, you get yourself into the STi, plus your negative equity to the WRX which will get carried on to the STi, then modifying the car you just purchased. Will that not cost the buyer a lot more?
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Originally Posted by LUvikes29
Look at the math...if you unload your WRX in a year, you will have probably about $4000, maybe more, JUST in negative equity on the car, which means you're functionally paying $36,000 (plus tax) for an STI.

I'm assuming, for the purposes of simplicity that you paid about $25,000 for your WRX, after taxes, fees, etc. Honestly, it really doesn't matter though.

A stock WRX can approach the performance of an STI with (as mentioned) between 4-5K in mods.

If you spet 5K +25K for the WRX, that's 30K, $2K less than MSRP for an STI, and about $6K less than what it would cost YOU to get into an STi with your negative equity. This is not to mention the reduced insurance of a WRX vs STI.

Exact reasons I didn't get an STI, I save $600 a year at least on insurance. =]
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Well if your gonna want to drag race your car, then you may as well upgrade to an sti.
Otherwise if it's just zipping around town then wrx is fine.
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An STI is worth every penny. You can spend all the money you want however a modded wrx will never drive like a STI. My friend had his 02 wrx hooked up to a crazy level

-450hp
-cusco zero 2 R coilovers
-big brakes
-dope volk rims and pirelli p-zero nero tires

And with all the money and power and sweetness I swear that my stock STI would be right on him (except for straight lines) on any road. It's that good.

Do whatever is financially responsible for you and your family (if you even have a family; wife/kids) and if you're single then do it! If you can afford it.

I love my STI. It's awesome, even in stock form it's more than 97.98% of the worlds population can handle at its limit.
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Silky
An STI is worth every penny. You can spend all the money you want however a modded wrx will never drive like a STI. My friend had his 02 wrx hooked up to a crazy level

-450hp
-cusco zero 2 R coilovers
-big brakes
-dope volk rims and pirelli p-zero nero tires

And with all the money and power and sweetness I swear that my stock STI would be right on him (except for straight lines) on any road. It's that good.

Do whatever is financially responsible for you and your family (if you even have a family; wife/kids) and if you're single then do it! If you can afford it.

I love my STI. It's awesome, even in stock form it's more than 97.98% of the worlds population can handle at its limit.
I bet what it cost him to get his WRX to that level ^ is about what the price difference is between a WRX and an STI ($8K), and yes, you're right, you probably could stick close to him anywhere but in a straight line, but since tracks (and roads) are made up of both straight lines, and curves, if his car cost about the same as yours, and is faster on straightaways, and even through curves, I think you've just done a pretty good job of proving my point. Thanks.



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